Australian Nazis

[Myles O'Reilly]

It is well known that the German Fúhrer of the 3rd Reich, Mr Adolf Hitler, attempted with varying degrees of success to recruit people to the cause of National Socialism from many different Countries.

One of the most fertile grounds for recruitment was Down Under.

In John Perkins' peerless work, The Swastika Down Under: Nazi Activities in Australia, 1933-39, the subject is evaluated thoroughly and explores just how deep the plot went.

Its an important piece of history and I advise anyone to click the link below and investigate further.

https://www.jstor.org/stable/260633

 

[SwordOfStZip]

It is well known that the German Fúhrer of the 3rd Reich, Mr Adolf Hitler, attempted with varying degrees of success to recruit people to the cause of National Socialism from many different Countries.

One of the most fertile grounds for recruitment was Down Under.

In John Perkins' peerless work, The Swastika Down Under: Nazi Activities in Australia, 1933-39, the subject is evaluated thoroughly and explores just how deep the plot went.

Its an important piece of history and I advise anyone to click the link below and investigate further.

https://www.jstor.org/stable/260633

Something that a friend of mine has gotten really interested in is Black Nationalist support and sympathy for the Axis Powers but most particularly the Hitlerite regime in the United States which actually seems to have lasted in the 1950s (the Blacks around the "Make It New" bookshop for instance). Do you know if there was any First Nations/Aboriginal sympathy or support for Hitler and his lads down under in Australia?

 

[Coal Gas and peat]

I never knew Adolf tried to seed aussieland was this agreed with the japs at the time ? Excellent thread sir

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

Do you know if there was any First Nations/Aboriginal sympathy or support for Hitler and his lads down under in Australia?

I'm working on it Miss.

But preliminary findings have so far found that yes, many *Abbos did - and still do! - support Adolf and his attempts at formulating society the way he saw fit.

If you go deep into the Bush you'll actually find many people who agree with the principles of National Socialism more than you might find in a gay bar in downtown Sydney.


*Aboriginal various peoples indigenous to mainland Australia and associated islands, excluding the Torres Strait Islands.

 

[Fishalt]

Imagine thinking this is actually going to troll me, haha!

Have it at it, people.

Kind of interested to see what Myles digs up.

 

[Fishalt]

I'm working on it Miss.

But preliminary findings have so far found that yes, many *Abbos did - and still do! - support Adolf and his attempts at formulating society the way he saw fit.

If you go deep into the Bush you'll actually find many people who agree with the principles of National Socialism more than you might find in a gay bar in downtown Sydney.


*Aboriginal various peoples indigenous to mainland Australia and associated islands, excluding the Torres Strait Islands.

LOL truth be told Myles, there's not many Indigenous left in what you probably think of as "The Bush'. Most live in the CBD of various cities now. They represent somewhere between 2.8-3.8% of the population. A big chunk of those would be mixed-race, and might 'Identify' as being Indigenous despite being white by all appearances. It's a bit of a running joke down here, actually. I cannot remember the last time I saw some resembling a full-blood Aborigine.

You'd be hard pushed to find a NAZI blackfella/Clayton Bigsby type anywhere, I'll say that.

 

[Fishalt]

I never knew Adolf tried to seed aussieland was this agreed with the japs at the time ? Excellent thread sir

They promised a big chunk of Australia to the Japs. My grandfather fought the Japanese in the trenches in New Guinea, and said the diggers might not have prevailed without the help from the natives who they called the "Fuzzy Wuzzy Angels".

Anti-Japanese sentiment persisted for a long time very broadly in Australia because of the war. That's not really the case now, but definitely right up to the mid-80's it was still prevalent.

There used to be a blue Australian comedian that had a bit based on it.



View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jA1KqxmNYDA

 

[Coal Gas and peat]

@Fishalt your grandfather participated in very heavy fighting im pretty sure a Thompson with a drum mag was part of his kit to fight mental bastard Japs mad to kill..........and they showed mixed Units of Aussies and indigenous volunteers no due respect initially to their severe cost

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

My grandfather fought the Japanese.

And there we have it.

Imagine having the childish notion that because your family fought against one particular side that you won't allow any conversation that goes against your "baddies vs goodies" shyte.

Any chance you'll grow up in the next while or so Skippy???

 

[Coal Gas and peat]

There is still huge hatred for the Japanese in Australia by the older generations

 

[Fishalt]

@Fishalt your grandfather participated in very heavy fighting im pretty sure a Thompson with a drum mag was part of his kit to fight mental bastard Japs mad to kill..........and they showed mixed Units of Aussies and indigenous volunteers no due respect initially to their severe cost

He told me once (I was too young to hear this BTW but that's his generation were like) that he and his crew had been engaged with in a firefight with bunch of Japanese for hours and hours in some god-forsaken trench in a jungle just reloading and firing over the line constantly. Nothing like drum mags, bolt-actions in the mud. Anyway they finally turned the tide and forced them to flee and he was ecstatic, and he grabbed his mate next to him to give him a hug but when he did so he saw that half of his head was blown off.

Then they all came home and lived semi-normal lives. I say semi-normal. My mother told me that she lived in an area where there were a lot of army houses, a lot of diggers lived there and as a kid she could hear the men screaming abuse, waking up in the night shouting from nightmares, getting drunk and fighting their wives all over the neighbourhood. This was before the term PTSD existed.

 

[Fishalt]

There is still huge hatred for the Japanese in Australia by the older generations

This is because of the way the Japanese treated their POW's. It was atrocious.

 

[Fishalt]

And there we have it.

Imagine having the childish notion that because your family fought against one particular side that you won't allow any conversation that goes against your "baddies vs goodies" shyte.

Any chance you'll grow up in the next while or so Skippy???

I never said I wouldn't allow conversation about the Third Reich Myles, I said that NeoNAZISM and veneration of Hitler and the Third Reich isn't welcome on the boards. So wash the sand out of your Vagina and love on.

To your second point, I woke up this morning and watched an episode of Ren & Stimpy and ate a bag of skittles, so I'd say that's doubtful.

 

[Coal Gas and peat]

Allied stuff and axis stuff can be discussed

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

I said that NeoNAZISM and veneration of Hitler and the Third Reich isn't welcome on the boards.

Who the fukk are you to say what the likes of Aul Lad has to say regarding the 3rd Reich?

He was here for the last 6 months when you absconded.

You have some neck on ye I'll give ye that.

 

[Fishalt]

Allied stuff and axis stuff can be discussed

Of course it can. I find a lot of it fascinating.

Everybody should more or less know my politics by now. I'm a nationalist anti-woker. But the thing is, Nationalism can go too far in one direction to degenerate into fascism. The same way that redistributive politics can (the left) to become communism. At this point, they're both indistinguishable from one another. Both despotism with total power concentrated to the state. And frankly the state is fucking terrible at just about everything, and I want it to have only as much power as absolutely necessary.

It's more or less what Voltaire said: Between the froth and the dregs, the middle.

 

[Fishalt]

Who the fukk are you to say what the likes of Aul Lad has to say regarding the 3rd Reich?

He was here for the last 6 months when you absconded.

You have some neck on ye I'll give ye that.

I'll admit I kind of screwed the pooch on Auld Lad. I may have mixed up his posts with Dark Horse's, but since I deleted the thread he was party to, I can't check. Anyway, I personally lifted his ban and sent him an apology by PM. Not sure what else I can do, really.

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

Of course it can. I find a lot of it fascinating.Everybody should more or less know my politics by now. I'm a nationalist anti-woker. But the thing is, Nationalism can go too far in one direction to degenerate into fascism. The same way that redistributive politics can (the left) to become communism. At this point, they're both indistinguishable from one another. Both despotism with total power concentrated to the state. And frankly the state is fucking terrible at just about everything, and I want it to have only as much power as absolutely necessary. It's more or less what Voltaire said: Between the froth and the dregs, the middle.

Its not your business what people want to discuss you narcissistic Antipodean.

You're here to smooth out discussion, not to decide what's to be discussed.

Do you understand that???

 

[Fishalt]

Its not your business what people want to discuss you narcissistic Antipodean.

You're here to smooth out discussion, not to decide what's to be discussed.

Do you understand that???

Careful Myles, you'll blow your cover

My job is primarily to ensure the continuation of the site, and part of that is removing content that presents an appreciable risk--or in the context of NeoNAZISM the certainty--of its destruction. By your logic, I'd have to allow the discussion of CP on the site. Do you feel what I'm laying down here?

At a certain point every moderator has to decide on some level what can and cannot be discussed. It's a hard line to walk especially for someone who believes in free speech as much as I do. It's nothing to do with narcissism, and I don't even know how you arrived at that conclusion. It's not about what I want. It's about the health and survivability of the site. You may notice that this thread is staying up even though I personally believe the subject is ridiculous.

Again, I made a mistake with Auld Lad, but I have corrected that mistake and issued an apology. What else are you expecting--Rim job? His replies would have been deleted anyway however because they were part of the thread created by Dark horse.

 

[Coal Gas and peat]

It seems dark horse and Frank are banned currently

 

[Fishalt]

It seems dark horse and Frank are banned currently

If you knew what I know CGP you would be 100% happy that Dark Horse is permabanned. Word as bond.

 

[Coal Gas and peat]

If you knew what I know CGP you would be 100% happy that Dark Horse is permabanned. Word as bond.

He was not a client of mine so I will not be representing him.....but I would take on Frank if he needs a brief

 

[Fishalt]

He was not a client of mine so I will not be representing him.....but I would take on Frank if he needs a brief

Dark Horse was a sock of the worst poster this site has ever known. I'll leave it to you to deduce who that could be.

 

[Tiger]

Dark Horse was a sock of the worst poster this site has ever known. I'll leave it to you to deduce who that could be.

So chicken legs basically created a cartoonish fake account of Tadgh?

When I posted a reasonably long response on his thread the other day, he replied with a super lengthy response within 2 mins. It was also a completely incoherent response. I suspected something odd was going on.

 

[Hermit]

My job is primarily to ensure the continuation of the site, and part of that is removing content that presents an appreciable risk--or in the context of NeoNAZISM the certainty--of it's destruction. By your logic, I'd have to allow the discussion of CP on the site. Do you feel what I'm laying down here?

Can you define "NeoNAZISM"? If you're going to be permabanning people for this, then a definition would be handy. Does it mean saying anything positive/neutral about Hitler or national socialism? I would consider Neo Nazis to be those skinhead retards with swastika tattoos on their faces, who have nothing to do with the German NSDAP of the 1930s/40s or the political ideology of national socialism.

Who is going to shut down this website for speaking about Hitler and national socialism? Will you be permabanning everyone here talking about Jews or the holocaust as well if it could risk getting the site shut down?

This is just optics cucking and doing the enemy's work by self-censoring. Gatekeeping the truth because it might turn newcomers away, when our goal should be to bring people to the truth no matter how uncomfortable it is. At least allow people to discuss the information and let them make up their own minds.

If you knew what I know CGP you would be 100% happy that Dark Horse is permabanned. Word as bond.

Dark Horse was a sock of the worst poster this site has ever known. I'll leave it to you to deduce who that could be.

Do you know for a fact who Dark Horse was, or are you assuming? The worst posters here were Electricity and Kangal, but I don't think you are referring to them, are you? The freaks from the Isle are not posters here. Why is Kangal allowed to remain here?

 

[Tiger]

Do you know for a fact who Dark Horse was, or are you assuming? The worst posters here were Electricity and Kangal, but I don't think you are referring to them, are you? The freaks from the Isle are not posters here. Why is Kangal allowed to remain here?

If the IP address had shown up a council estate in Kilbarrack, then it may have been one of those posters.

However, the IP address showed it to be a lonely middle aged man, whose biggest achievement in life was painting snowmen on the windows of the Hairy Lemon pub in Dublin.

True story.

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

Fishalt has clearly never heard of the Streisand effect.

Seriously, how fu*king stupid can a man be?

 

[SwordOfStZip]

Do you know for a fact who Dark Horse was, or are you assuming? The worst posters here were Electricity and Kangal, but I don't think you are referring to them, are you? The freaks from the Isle are not posters here. Why is Kangal allowed to remain here?

Neo-Nazism means calling for genocide, accelerationism, calling for violence, glorification of mass shooters, psycho misogyny, etc, etc. Basically all the pathologies coming out of the decay of the Iron March forum and the groups spawned by it. That is what to all intents and purposes Neo-Nazism means today.

I think you are being unfair to Electricity though I do understand he was well capable of being annoying at times, he was certainly not responsible here and I do not know why you believe it was not Kangal. Kangal will not be returning.

 

[Fishalt]

Can you define "NeoNAZISM"? If you're going to be permabanning people for this, then a definition would be handy. Does it mean saying anything positive/neutral about Hitler or national socialism? I would consider Neo Nazis to be those skinhead retards with swastika tattoos on their faces, who have nothing to do with the German NSDAP of the 1930s/40s or the political ideology of national socialism.

Who is going to shut down this website for speaking about Hitler and national socialism? Will you be permabanning everyone here talking about Jews or the holocaust as well if it could risk getting the site shut down?

This is just optics cucking and doing the enemy's work by self-censoring. Gatekeeping the truth because it might turn newcomers away, when our goal should be to bring people to the truth no matter how uncomfortable it is. At least allow people to discuss the information and let them make up their own minds.



Do you know for a fact who Dark Horse was, or are you assuming? The worst posters here were Electricity and Kangal, but I don't think you are referring to them, are you? The freaks from the Isle are not posters here. Why is Kangal allowed to remain here?

Yes, we know for a fact who dark horse was.
Kangal will be autobanned as soon as his presence is made known on the site. He is never coming back, and will be immediately purged like the vermin he is for all time. Zip will probably allow James back bcause that's what she does, and is likely knitting him a pair of mittens currently.

Google could delist the site on the grounds of hateful content, or the providing host could refuse service on these grounds also. Those are both very real potentialities. What my definition of NeoNAZISM is doesn't really matter, and neither does yours. Google's especially is what matters, and it is incredibly ( and deliberately) nebulous, as is wikipedia's, neither of which I personally ascribe to. I prefer to never have to ban anyone and will give people many chances to self-correct before resorting to this as a last option. On the subject of NAZI content, I will allow historically-based discussions on it, but won't allow, as aforementioned, Hitler, the NAZIS, or The Ideology of The Third Reich to be venerated or calls for it to be reinstituted. If that isn't NeoNAZISM then I don't know what is, really. Content of that nature will be deleted, with explanation, and if a member keeps going back to it over and over again I'll probably issue a ban that would not be permanent.

I'll reiterate Hermit, if we allow this site to become infested with Stormfaggery, it will get taken down eventually.

 

[Fishalt]

Fishalt has clearly never heard of the Streisand effect.

Seriously, how fu*king stupid can a man be?

Myles, I feel like every one of our conversations has gone like this lately.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkU-eEyu2so

 

[Tiger]

Yes, we know for a fact who dark horse was.
Kangal will be autobanned as soon as his presence is made known on the site. He is never coming back, and will be immediately purged like the vermin he is for all time. Zip will probably allow James back bcause that's what she does, and is likely knitting him a pair of mittens currently.

Google could delist the site on the grounds of hateful content, or the providing host could refuse service on these grounds also. Those are both very real potentialities. What my definition of NeoNAZISM is doesn't really matter, and neither does yours. Google's especially is what matters, and it is incredibly ( and deliberately) nebulous, as is wikipedia's, neither of which I personally ascribe to. I prefer to never have to ban anyone and will give people many chances to self-correct before resorting to this as a last option. On the subject of NAZI content, I will allow historically-based discussions on it, but won't allow, as aforementioned, Hitler, the NAZIS, or The Ideology of The Third Reich to be venerated or calls for it to be reinstituted. If that isn't NeoNAZISM then I don't know what is, really. Content of that nature will be deleted, with explanation, and if a member keeps going back to it over and over again I'll probably issue a ban that would not be permanent.

I'll reiterate Hermit, if we allow this site to become infested with Stormfaggery, it will get taken down eventually.

Just to say it, so when @Wolf said Tank was only here for nefarious reasons, he was 100% correct.

 

[Hermit]

Neo-Nazism means calling for genocide, accelerationism, calling for violence, glorification of mass shooters, psycho misogyny, etc, etc. Basically all the pathologies coming out of the decay of the Iron March forum and the groups spawned by it. That is what to all intents and purposes Neo-Nazism means today.

That's what I was getting at, Neo-Nazism is not national socialism.

I think you are being unfair to Electricity though I do understand he was well capable of being annoying at times, he was certainly not responsible here and I do not know why you believe it was not Kangal. Kangal will not be returning.

Electricity used to be okay but he spiralled out of control. He can't have any reasonable discussion, he only wants to throw abuse. That's good news about Kangal.

Yes, we know for a fact who dark horse was.

Fair enough.

Kangal will be autobanned as soon as his presence is made known on the site. He is never coming back, and will be immediately purged like the vermin he is for all time.

Nice one.

Google could delist the site on the grounds of hateful content, or the providing host could refuse service on these grounds also. Those are both very real potentialities. What my definition of NeoNAZISM is doesn't really matter, and neither does yours. Google's especially is what matters, and it is incredibly ( and deliberately) nebulous, as is wikipedia's, neither of which I personally ascribe to. I prefer to never have to ban anyone and will give people many chances to self-correct before resorting to this as a last option. On the subject of NAZI content, I will allow historically-based discussions on it, but won't allow, as aforementioned, Hitler, the NAZIS, or The Ideology of The Third Reich to be venerated or calls for it to be reinstituted. If that isn't NeoNAZISM then I don't know what is, really. Content of that nature will be deleted, with explanation, and if a member keeps going back to it over and over again I'll probably issue a ban that would not be permanent.

I'll reiterate Hermit, if we allow this site to become infested with Stormfaggery, it will get taken down eventually.

Fair enough.

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

There's nowt fair enough about it. He bumped up a thread that literally no-one knew existed apart from Tagdh!

Which begs the question, what was he doing troweling through the Site looking for Nazi threads?

You know sometimes those who proclaim the loudest......etc.

 

[Tiger]

There's nowt fair enough about it. He bumped up a thread that literally no-one knew existed apart from Tagdh!

Which begs the question, what was he doing troweling through the Site looking for Nazi threads?

You know sometimes those who proclaim the loudest......etc.

Myles, there was no Tadgh. It was Tank’s thread.

Its creation was for nefarious purposes.

Tank created a thread so that he could report the site.

Normally, you’re very strong in your objection to sock accounts. I’m not sure why you’re ok with Tank’s sock account.

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

It was Tadgh Sir. No doubt about it.

 

[Fishalt]

There's nowt fair enough about it. He bumped up a thread that literally no-one knew existed apart from Tagdh!

Which begs the question, what was he doing troweling through the Site looking for Nazi threads?

You know sometimes those who proclaim the loudest......etc.

lol Fagatha Christie here with the magma-take. Are you earnestly suggesting that because I happened upon a thread that needed to be deleted because it was NeoNAZISM (which turned out to be subterfuge/sabotage created by a sock) and did delete it, that this is action suggests I'm a closeted NAZI?

Knocking it out of the park lately, Myles.

 

[SwordOfStZip]

It was Tadgh Sir. No doubt about it.

It was a copy of stuff Tadgh did in fact paste on Pish ages of ages though edited and with maybe some additions.

The fact that the person in question had made copies of all that really says a lot at least very possibly- and none of it I am afraid is good.

 

[Fishalt]

It was a copy of stuff Tadgh did in fact paste on Pish ages of ages though edited and with maybe some additions.

The fact that the person in question had made copies of all that really says a lot at least very possibly- and none of it I am afraid is good.

You're leaving out the part where it was confirmed that the IP that published that content was identical to that of a confirmed troublemaker account.

 

[Tiger]

It was a copy of stuff Tadgh did in fact paste on Pish ages of ages though edited and with maybe some additions.

The fact that the person in question had made copies of all that really says a lot at least very possibly- and none of it I am afraid is good.

R0c has a history of saving all threads on PISH too.

Creepy shit. The actions of a proper weirdo.

What possible reason would someone have for doing that that isn’t egregious?

Is it safe to keep R0c as an active poster on this site?

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

lol Fagatha Christie here with the magma-take. Are you earnestly suggesting that because I happened upon a thread that needed to be deleted because it was NeoNAZISM (which turned out to be subterfuge/sabotage created by a sock) and did delete it, that this is action suggests I'm a closeted NAZI? Knocking it out of the park lately, Myles.

If the cap fits.

I'm just glad Aul Lad has returned. Banning an elderly mechanic from Castlecomer for discussing Jewish banking in the 30's could easily have backfired and he might have left for good. That would've been a big loss to the Site.

You're lucky he didn't take offence to your shit-housery Sir.