Baby killing for fun, profit, health, revenge and religion - the abortion thread

[Diarmuid]

Agree. Obviously blacks, jews and even sassanachs are humans, just different subspecies to us. If we Irish decide, in keeping with our laws and Bunreacht na hEireann, that we need to kill their babies, it is much safer for their mothers that they are killed after they are born, not while they are still in the womb.

Abortion increases one year all causes maternal death rates by 400% compared to birth.

 

[Just Think]

Fair point. I've edited the OP. The thread title is Abortion. The Haven/Roc ref is now just an invite to them to explain their baby killing enthusiasm.

You'll note that I deleted an off topic post by The Boss also. Don't take it personal. It's just housekeeping.

I've had two abortions and three live births myself. The abortions were totally unecessary, VERY painful and dangerous for the ladies and an insult to the fathers.

The births were amazing, life enhancing events.

Every single voluntary abortion is the woman saying to the man: you are a low status sex partner.

Of course, many abortions are forced: I think there was a case of a darkie in Letterkenny forcing his -stupid - coalburner partner to swallow the pills.


Come on, Haven and Roc, tell us about your abortions

Let's have the conversation.

Isn't it funny how the leftists, especially leftist males, clam up when it comes to the subject of abortion?
Yea, they'll shit talk about the 'my body, my choice' argument they've seen on the MSM and their women have beaten into them but that's about it.
What's really funny is though is when it came to the C19 jabs their whole 'my body, my choice' argument was thrown out the window and they were the same leftists males screaming at everyone to take an experimental medical drug.
These beta males are a disgrace to humanity.

 

[Roc.]

Agree. Obviously blacks, jews and even sassanachs are humans, just different subspecies to us. If we Irish decide, in keeping with our laws and Bunreacht na hEireann, that we need to kill their babies, it is much safer for their mothers that they are killed after they are born, not while they are still in the womb.

Well thanks for the clarification there, Diarmuid. More food for thought there alright. Anyone else like to add their thoughts on the question I asked before I type up a response later on?

 

[Roc.]

Yes.

And taking that in addition to mean “no” to the earlier part of my question - that you would never support abortion access for pregnant black mothers in Europe gestating black babies - that many on this site like to represent as innately much more likely to be potential murderers and rapists and criminals? Fair enough. Anyone else like to pitch in with their thoughts?

 

[Just Think]

The average age blacks die worldwide at is 64 compared to whites at 78.4.
We should be thankful for that at least.

 

[Roc.]

PS - It seems Diarmuid in his responses above decided to only take the case of white mothers who have been raped by a black man. Which wasn’t what I asked - but anyway we’ll have to go along with that as it seems his comprehension is only able to go so far.

 

[The Equalizer]

And taking that in addition to mean “no” to the earlier part of my question - that you would never support abortion access for pregnant black mothers in Europe gestating black babies - that many on this site like to represent as innately much more likely to be potential murderers and rapists and criminals? Fair enough. Anyone else like to pitch in with their thoughts?

As opposed to what else, socioeconomically?

 

[Diarmuid]

Religious reasons for abortion:

I urge baby-killing enthusiasts to correct me if I am wrong in any of these statements.

Jews brag that it is part of their religion. The Old Testament references human sacrifice of the first born amongst the jews. There are some great Jews, often former abortionists, who bitterly regret their bloodstained hands and campaign against it.

Idiot Hindu dentists demand it as a "cure" and argue that the baby they kill now will be "reincarnated" in their next baby. Plus they love aborting baby girls because males have higher status in their culture.

Atheists love it, of course.

Neo-pagans adore abortion on reincarnation and human sacrifice grounds. I've heard rumours of neo-pagan ladies getting impregnated by Negros once a year and sacrificing their unborn babies to their gods.

Muslims - I think Mohammed was agin it, but modern Muslims love abortion on sex selection grounds: There are tens of millions of missing women in their countries because of sex selection abortions.

Feminists: I asked Rosin whatshername, partner to Rossa OSnodaigh, about aborting female babies. Her face lit up in a delighted smile: She supports the deliberate selection of female babies for dismemberment and death on the grounds of choice.

Proddies: They used to support abortion, mostly on the grounds that Taigs were against it, but the experience of widespread abortion since the 1960s has changed their tune. There is a big pro-life march in Belfast next month, BTW.

Catholics: GoloboHomo judaeo masonic infiltrators, like the current and previous popes, pretend to oppose it, but in practice facilitate it, by allowing abortion enthusiasts to receive the sacraments, etc.Trad Catholics are against it, though in the very rare cases where it is the indirect result of a medical intervention they do not classify it as murder.

@Haven and @Roc, can you explain your spiritual/religious reasons for your abortion enthusiasm? If it is not a touchy subject?

 

[The Equalizer]

Religious reasons for abortion:

I urge baby-killing enthusiasts to correct me if I am wrong in any of these statements.

Jews brag that it is part of their religion. The Old Testament references human sacrifice of the first born amongst the jews. There are some great Jews, often former abortionists, who bitterly regret their bloodstained hands and campaign against it.

Idiot Hindu dentists demand it as a "cure" and argue that the baby they kill now will be "reincarnated" in their next baby. Plus they love aborting baby girls because males have higher status in their culture.

Atheists love it, of course.

Sure they do

I remember a thread on Pish and some idiot was obviously making the presumption that only theists are against abortion. I remember it because after I pointed out that I was against abortion, so did three or four other atheists.

Neo-pagans adore abortion on reincarnation and human sacrifice grounds. I've heard rumours of neo-pagan ladies getting impregnated by Negros once a year and sacrificing their unborn babies to their gods.

Muslims - I think Mohammed was agin it, but modern Muslims love abortion on sex selection grounds: There are tens of millions of missing women in their countries because of sex selection abortions.

Feminists: I asked Rosin whatshername, partner to Rossa OSnodaigh, about aborting female babies. Her face lit up in a delighted smile: She supports the deliberate selection of female babies for dismemberment and death on the grounds of choice.

Proddies: They used to support abortion, mostly on the grounds that Taigs were against it, but the experience of widespread abortion since the 1960s has changed their tune. There is a big pro-life march in Belfast next month, BTW.

Catholics: GoloboHomo judaeo masonic infiltrators, like the current and previous popes, pretend to oppose it, but in practice facilitate it, by allowing abortion enthusiasts to receive the sacraments, etc.Trad Catholics are against it, though in the very rare cases where it is the indirect result of a medical intervention they do not classify it as murder.

@Haven and @Roc, can you explain your spiritual/religious reasons for your abortion enthusiasm? If it is not a touchy subject?

 

[Diarmuid]

Question is, do you support abortion access for the mothers of these alleged black criminals and rapists and “animals” you say live in European countries?

Sorry, I misread the question. But the answer is still no. Black, brown and Jewish people much more pro-abortion than white people, probably due to their lower IQ and altruism and higher presence of the killer gene (often misnamed as warrior gene). Either way, Europe will be much more pleasant, and babies much safer, when we remigrate them to Somewhere Else.

I don't refer to blacks, browns and jews as animals, but as (sub-species) fellow members of the human race. I love them and want all the best for them in their ancestral homelands.

The pro-life groups do like to publicise blacks, browns and jews and I think this is from altruistic motives - they are very aware that these groups are much more pro-baby killing than us whiteys.

 

[Diarmuid]

Sure they do

I remember a thread on Pish and some idiot was obviously making the presumption that only theists are against abortion. I remember it because after I pointed out that I was against abortion, so did three or four other atheists.

Maith thu, a chara. Great, relevant contribution. In your own time, you might develop a couple of paragraphs as to why you - as an ever so clever atheist - oppose abortion.

Go raibh mile maith agat as do thuairim a nochtadh.

 

[The Equalizer]

Maith thu, a chara. Great, relevant contribution. In your own time, you might develop a couple of paragraphs as to why you - as an ever so clever atheist - oppose abortion.

Go raibh mile maith agat as do thuairim a nochtadh.

Tell us why "atheists love abortion", in your own time..

 

[Tiger]

PS - It seems Diarmuid in his responses above decided to only take the case of white mothers who have been raped by a black man. Which wasn’t what I asked - but anyway we’ll have to go along with that as it seems his comprehension is only able to go so far.

It’s remarkable how, when the issue of abortion arises, the abortion lovers always go straight to rape cases as if they were the central case. No foreplay, just straight in. One of the most predictable pre-programmed response of any subject matter.

Someone unfamiliar with the topic would be forgiven for thinking that rape situations dominated.

For clarity. Does anyone know off hand how many of the almost 50,000 babies murdered since 2019 are related to rape?

 

[Diarmuid]

Just based on all the atheists I've met who love abortion, that's all. You're the first atheist I've met who's against it. God bless you. If you can expand on your reasons, it would be much appreciated.

I take it your parents were Christian and you went to a Christian school? And you've lived under the 1937 Christian constitution. Perhaps it is the subconcious effect of Christianity that makes you anti-abortion?

 

[Just Think]

It’s remarkable how, when the issue of abortion arises, the abortion lovers always go straight to rape cases as if they were the central case. No foreplay, just straight in. One of the most predictable pre-programmed response of any subject matter.

Someone unfamiliar with the topic would be forgiven for thinking that rape situations dominated.

For clarity. Does anyone know off hand how many of the almost 50,000 babies murdered since 2019 are related to rape?

Or fatal feotal abnormalities?
I'd say combined it's less than 5%, the rest are just slags and their weakling males who failed to take appropriate precautions.

 

[Diarmuid]

It’s remarkable how, when the issue of abortion arises, the abortion lovers always go straight to rape cases as if they were the central case.

They also accuse pro-lifers of being rape enthusiasts.

About one percent of abortions are allegedly rape/medical related.

 

[Tiger]

A glimpse into the morality of a pro abortionist.

Sick.


View: https://youtu.be/pT7_cd7x9UI?si=wBrC_yxdVhezafCn

 

[Diarmuid]

weakling males who failed to take appropriate precautions.

Indeed. Most abortions are caused by lack of penis control, lack of knowlegde of female orgasm, pure and simple

 

[Diarmuid]

A glimpse into the morality of a pro abortionist.

The poor dear looks sad and lost. Typical abortionista.

Her hair is dyed, I reckon.

Isn't it interesting how abortionsistas become ugly very quickly?

 

[Roc.]

It’s remarkable how, when the issue of abortion arises, the abortion lovers always go straight to rape cases as if they were the central case. No foreplay, just straight in. One of the most predictable pre-programmed response of any subject matter.

Someone unfamiliar with the topic would be forgiven for thinking that rape situations dominated.

For clarity. Does anyone know off hand how many of the almost 50,000 babies murdered since 2019 are related to rape?

It was your Irish nationalist ultra catholic compadre who went down that track.

Aborting the babies of rapists will damage Our Gals wombs, future baby making ability and increase their death rate by 400%. Only an idiot would support that. I support torturing and killing the killing the darkie rapists…

I just wanted to know the feelings of thread contributors around their thinking on this issue and if it would change if the Mother and baby were non-white neighbours of theirs.

Just to check if there was at least one other issue possibly bound up with this issue, so that we might be clear on what we were actually talking about.

Your compadre couldn’t even conceive of the nuance, or hear the plainly and clearly phrased question. - He went straight on to ranting about imagined black rapists of “Our Gals”, and then talking about killing the black babies as soon as they were born.

 

[Diarmuid]

It was your Irish nationalist ultra catholic compadre who went down that track.

Please acknowledge my germanic and roman ancestry also. Replace ultra with trad.
I invite you to define your own religious and ethnic background. There's no need to be emabrassed. We won't hold the crimes of your ancestors and religious associates against you.

I just wanted to know the feelings of thread contributors around their thinking on this issue and if it would change if the Mother and baby were non-white neighbours of theirs.

Obviously not. Killing babies in the womb is much more dangerous - for the mother - than killing them when they are born. We all agree on that. None of us Christian Remigration enthusiasts wish any harm to the negro, the hindu, the jew or even the sasanach. We just want them to live their best lives Anywhere But Here.

But let us hear why you are so enthusiastic to kill their babies in the womb. Embarassed, are you?

Congratulations on being brave enough to debate this issue and congratulations on reducing the vulgarity from your previous posts.

We'll larn you yet: it's possible to disagree without being disagreeable. It's a white boy thing.

Did you dance the abortion jig at Dublin Castle?
Have you watched the abortion video?

 

[The Equalizer]

Just based on all the atheists I've met who love abortion, that's all. You're the first atheist I've met who's against it.

Maybe you should get out more, you know, expand your horizons..

God bless you.

Why would you say that when you know that I'm an atheist?

If you can expand on your reasons, it would be much appreciated.

How do you think they would differ from yours?

If the only reason you're against abortion is because you believe in God, then I wouldn't find that particularly human.

I take it your parents were Christian and you went to a Christian school?

My father was an atheist, my mother was a Christian (Catholic). Yes, I went to a Christian (primary) school, a school that had Sunday school, if you know what I mean. Secondary school had a Christian ethos.

And you've lived under the 1937 Christian constitution.

Perhaps it is the subconcious effect of Christianity that makes you anti-abortion?

No

 

[Diarmuid]

Can one of Our Tech Guys grab some of the photos of dancing abortionistas at Dublin Castle and feed it into AI? What with the surveillance society, it should be simple enough to pull up names of everyone who was there. Consent can be assumed, though some the lads and lassies were careful to wear dark glasses .

If there were 50k abortions here and the one year death rate is 1 in 1,000, that means there are 500 women who have died since receiving abortion "care". Imagine that. 500 Savitas.

 

[Diarmuid]

,

Maybe you should get out more, you know, expand your horizons..

census figures show only 400 official atheists.

Why would you say that when you know I'm an atheist?

A joke No offence meant, and none taken, I hope. Would it be less offensive if I said "may the force be with you"?

My father was an atheist, my mother was a Christian (Catholic). Yes, I went to a Christian school, a school that had Sunday school, if you know what I mean.

Did your Christian mother and school have some effect on you?

It is a sincere question. Can you briefly outline the atheist anti-abortion position? I know very little about atheist beliefs, that is why I ask.

 

[The Equalizer]

census figures show only 400 official atheists.

Dermot, how exactly detached from reality would you consider yourself on a scale from one to ten?

A joke No offence meant, and none taken, I hope. Would it be less offensive if I said "may the force be with you"?

Did your Christian mother and school have some effect on you?

No, I figured out early on that religion, all of them, are a creation of the human mind.

It is a sincere question. Can you briefly outline the atheist anti-abortion position?

Yes - there isn't one.

You're doing what's sometimes called pigeon-holing

I know very little about atheist beliefs, that is why I ask.

What beliefs? As I said, I believe that religions are invented, that's about it

 

[Hermit]

But its true, in no other part of life do we force someone to act as a literal life-support system.

A woman's body is designed (or evolved if you want to believe that) to support life. Her reproductive system, breasts, hips, etc are built to give birth and provide life. It is a beautiful and magical ability that all women should cherish and celebrate, and thankfully most of them do, or none of us would be alive.

No human designed the body of women. No one forces a woman to give birth to a child. There are/were laws against terminating the life of a child. Where the law prohibits abortion, woman can still choose to murder her unborn child, either by going to a country that allows abortion, or by serving a criminal sentence.

Before the 2018 referendum, abortion was allowed in Ireland when the woman's life was in danger of death from giving birth, so the 'being pregnant is life-threatening' argument for abortion is invalid. And like the rape argument for abortion, it's also a red herring because of 'her body, her choice" which posits that women should be allowed to abort for any reason whatsoever. Do you think a woman should be allowed to abort her 9-month unborn child, or would it be "forcing" her to give birth if prohibited?

For clarity. Does anyone know off hand how many of the almost 50,000 babies murdered since 2019 are related to rape?

Zero? The general stat for abortion due to rape is something like less than 1%. Around 97% of abortions are for personal reasons unrelated to health concerns.

 

[Just Think]

A woman's body is designed (or evolved if you want to believe that) to support life. Her reproductive system, breasts, hips, etc are built to give birth and provide life. It is a beautiful and magical ability that all women should cherish and celebrate, and thankfully most of them do, or none of us would be alive.

Most lefties these days cannot even define what a woman is in the first place so that's where you're going wrong with that individual by the looks of it.

 

[Diarmuid]

Question for Equalizer. is this a fair summary of Atheists and abortion? I'm not making any assumptions, just asking

Atheists can be divided into two groups: Golden rule atheists and Me Feiner atheists.

The Golden Rule advises us to treat others as we would like to be treated and an anti-abortion belief can be derived from this. Self interested altruism, one might call it.

The Me Feiner rule is: Do what you want is the whole of the Law. An enthusiastic pro-abortion belief can be derived from this.

 

[Diarmuid]

I urge people to post pictures of Ugly Abortionistas. Here's one to get the ball rolling.

 

[Tiger]

I urge people to post pictures of Ugly Abortionistas. Here's one to get the ball rolling.

View attachment 9008

 

[Roc.]

...No one forces a woman to give birth to a child...

Is that not what this whole spurious "debate" is about?

... Did you dance the abortion jig at Dublin Castle?

Noting first I have never expressed my opinion about this debate.

And no one has been able to cite my opinion (obviously, because I never expressed one. - Later on I will explain why I never have expressed one).

But I'd just like to correct you regarding those celebrations at Dublin Castle. They were not celebrating what you say they were. You're purposely misrepresenting them. Rather they were celebrating a victory over those who imposed a type of "force" on them, within a priestly society that criminalised not only abortion but also blasphemy, divorce & homosexuality.

They were celebrating what they saw as "justice" that they fought very long and hard for:

On a night like this I remember the child
who came with fifteen summers to her name,
and she lay down alone at my feet
without midwife or doctor or friend to hold her hand
and she pushed her secret out into the night,
far from the town tucked up in little scandals,
bargains struck, words broken, prayers, promises,
and though she cried out to me in extremis
I did not move,
I didn’t lift a finger to help her,
I didn’t intercede with heaven,
nor whisper the charmed word in God’s ear.

Now of course you do not allow their perspective. You insist as you always have on your own perspective. But the fact is they have their own perspective, for all your insistence that they don't.

 

[Diarmuid]

Good old Ivana the Nazi. "Mirror, mirror on the wall, who is the ugliest abortionista of them all?"

 

[BIG FAT HOOR]

A woman's body is designed (or evolved if you want to believe that) to support life. Her reproductive system, breasts, hips, etc are built to give birth and provide life. It is a beautiful and magical ability that all women should cherish and celebrate, and thankfully most of them do, or none of us would be alive.

No human designed the body of women. No one forces a woman to give birth to a child. There are/were laws against terminating the life of a child. Where the law prohibits abortion, woman can still choose to murder her unborn child, either by going to a country that allows abortion, or by serving a criminal sentence.

Before the 2018 referendum, abortion was allowed in Ireland when the woman's life was in danger of death from giving birth, so the 'being pregnant is life-threatening' argument for abortion is invalid. And like the rape argument for abortion, it's also a red herring because of 'her body, her choice" which posits that women should be allowed to abort for any reason whatsoever. Do you think a woman should be allowed to abort her 9-month unborn child, or would it be "forcing" her to give birth if prohibited?


Zero? The general stat for abortion due to rape is something like less than 1%. Around 97% of abortions are for personal reasons unrelated to health concerns.

today there is meltdown in the north and panic stations in the house of commons.
all because on line you can look at what is reported to be a somali man trying to behead a white northern ireland man on the ground .
he is stopped /interrupted by several blows to the head with a Hurley --but the hurler has to be super determined as he continues to slice the head even after several loud blows to the head .
this imagery is sufficent to cause an emergency statement from the house of commons .
the imagery of a baby being torn to pieces while still conscious is much more horrific however nobody will comment onn the tens of thousands pulled limb from limb each day .
we do not know what we are doing yet .

 

[Just Think]

Is that not what this whole spurious "debate" is about?


Noting first I have never expressed my opinion about this debate.

And no one has been able to cite my opinion (obviously, because I never expressed one. - Later on I will explain why I never have expressed one).

But I'd just like to correct you regarding those celebrations at Dublin Castle. They were not celebrating what you say they were. You're purposely misrepresenting them. Rather they were celebrating a victory over those who imposed a type of "force" on them, within a priestly society that criminalised not only abortion but also blasphemy, divorce & homosexuality.

They were celebrating what they saw as "justice" that they fought very long and hard for:

On a night like this I remember the child
who came with fifteen summers to her name,
and she lay down alone at my feet
without midwife or doctor or friend to hold her hand
and she pushed her secret out into the night,
far from the town tucked up in little scandals,
bargains struck, words broken, prayers, promises,
and though she cried out to me in extremis
I did not move,
I didn’t lift a finger to help her,
I didn’t intercede with heaven,
nor whisper the charmed word in God’s ear.

Now of course you do not allow their perspective. You insist as you always have on your own perspective. But the fact is they have their own perspective, for all your insistence that they don't.

You don't have an opinion, you seem to be just a shit stirrer, very much like the one called haven.

 

[Just Think]

View attachment 9010

If ever there was going to be anything to justify abortion that picture is it.
Repeal my eyes...

 

[Roc.]

What beliefs? As I said, I believe that religions are invented, that's about it

Like your own religion Jambo.

My God the lack of self awareness you have is truly something else.

Do you really think your little white supremacist cult and its secular deities are all that different from those held by the catholic devout 50 years ago?

Sure, today, the most devout in our society worship at the altar of secularism and atheism. Look at your yourself Jambo, if you are capable of it. You are just as singular minded as the bent over ladies and dandruff men clutching their rosary beads in the Irish churches 50 years ago.

Also noting that your secular deities are mainly differentiated from the older displaced deities in that they do not emphasise awareness or control over the inner life; they do not emphasise living in harmony with the surrounding natural and social world; they do not emphasise the distinguishing between perception and illusion, or to distinguish in any perception between the influence of subjective elements and objective realities.

You see Jambo, all that religion really is, in essence, is a set of beliefs held in common with a community, which contain the self-projections of the individuals of the group. Seen as such, atheism and secularism are plainly part of a religious system. Granted atheism is unique as a religion in that a core part of the religion is to deny it is a religion. Also granted today's communities are more and more internet based.

We are still over-run with rosary bead clutching devout and pious priest worshipping prats.

Take a bow, Jambo.

 

[The Equalizer]

Question for Equalizer. is this a fair summary of Atheists and abortion? I'm not making any assumptions, just asking

"Atheist" isn't capitalised (unless at the beginning of a sentence) and I don't really know what "Atheists and abortion" means.

You could certainly make a correlation between atheists versus theists and their differing views on abortion, I wouldn't dispute it. But being against abortion is not exclusively a religious thing, by any means.

Atheists can be divided into two groups: Golden rule atheists and Me Feiner atheists.

The Golden Rule advises us to treat others as we would like to be treated and an anti-abortion belief can be derived from this. Self interested altruism, one might call it.

The Me Feiner rule is: Do what you want is the whole of the Law. An enthusiastic pro-abortion belief can be derived from this.

The Golden Rule is fine by me, I'm glad that Christianity adopted it.

 

[Tiger]

Is that not what this whole spurious "debate" is about?


Noting first I have never expressed my opinion about this debate.

You don’t need to. It’s a fairly predictable position that you’re going to have.

You’re the opposite of unique. Your opinions are carved into the heart of every Irish Times reader from the last 30 years. You’re all the same. Obnoxious notions coming out of your ears

And no one has been able to cite my opinion (obviously, because I never expressed one. - Later on I will explain why I never have expressed one).

Spoiler alert….

But I'd just like to correct you regarding those celebrations at Dublin Castle. They were not celebrating what you say they were. You're purposely misrepresenting them.

Bullshit. There was a deliberate campaign to obfuscate the debate as centered on medical emergencies. Which all existed prior to the referendum anyway. It was a devious campaign which did everything it could to avoid the reality of abortion on demand.

The celebrations were led that day by people with blood on their hands. Irish infant blood. Trying to paint them as something else shows how devious you are.

Rather they were celebrating a victory over those who imposed a type of "force" on them, within a priestly society that criminalised not only abortion but also blasphemy, divorce & homosexuality.

How heroic and noble of them. Should we be building statues?

They were celebrating what they saw as "justice" that they fought very long and hard for:

Aye, them and the legion of demons that surrounded them.

 

[Diarmuid]

Is that not what this whole spurious "debate" is about?


Noting first I have never expressed my opinion about this debate.

Apologies for implying that you had. Your sneering, vulgar, aggressive and lying tone implied to me that you were an enthusiastic baby-in-the-womb killing enthusiast. Please accept my apologies.

But do tell us your opinions on in-womb baby killing.
Did you vote for it?
Did you dance the abortion jog at Dublin castle?
Did you smile with delight when you watched the footage of the tiny baby in the womb try to flee the abortionist's instrument?

There's no need to be embarassed. This is modern Ireland, a mhac. There's no need to be scared. We won't harm a hair on your head. The feminists will skin you alive if you criticise abortion, of course, but that's separate.

It's good to talk.

And no one has been able to cite my opinion (obviously, because I never expressed one. - Later on I will explain why I never have expressed one).

OOH, keeping the suspense going. A master storyteller.

But I'd just like to correct you regarding those celebrations at Dublin Castle. They were not celebrating what you say they were.

Not celebrating abortion, aka in-womb-baby-killing??? Are you sure? Were you there? Ivana was clebrating it, surely? And Queen Leo? And Slimy Simon Harris? And all the others? Can you provide one Dublin castle jigger who was NOT celebrating abortion?

You're purposely misrepresenting them. Rather they were celebrating a victory over those who imposed a type of "force" on them, within a priestly society that criminalised not only abortion but also blasphemy, divorce & homosexuality.

Don't forget condoms. Condoms are an instrument of feminism and an insult to the male penis and should be banned immediately.

Legalising divorce was a very stupid idea and another Judaeo -feminist attack on men.

Are you allowed blaspheme the jewish God, Roc? Are you allowed blaspheme the transgender God? Are you allowed blaspheme the God of abortion? I think you'll find that certain types of blasphemy are heavily punished.

Homosexuality is nothing but a bad habit, heavily promoted by "certain ethnic and cultural groups". They are getting very pushy and aggressive since sodomy was legalized. They have heavily infiltrated the churches.They are in the schools. Even the media is swarming with them. It's time to ban sodomy again.

They were celebrating what they saw as "justice" that they fought very long and hard for:

On a night like this I remember the child
who came with fifteen summers to her name,
and she lay down alone at my feet
without midwife or doctor or friend to hold her hand
and she pushed her secret out into the night,
far from the town tucked up in little scandals,
bargains struck, words broken, prayers, promises,
and though she cried out to me in extremis
I did not move,
I didn’t lift a finger to help her,
I didn’t intercede with heaven,
nor whisper the charmed word in God’s ear.

You're thinking of the poor girl who gave birth in Granard. A tragic case indeed. But abortion would not have saved her. And many more teenage girls have died as a result of complications from abortion. No tears for the teen victims of abortion?

You are using emotional arguments bro. That's fine for women. Not for men. Please use logic, as well as emotion, like I do. Thank you.

Now of course you do not allow their perspective.

Nonsense.

You insist as you always have on your own perspective.

Everyone is entitled to their perspective, even if it opposes in-womb-baby-killing, condoms, anal sex, child trannies and the evils of the Jewish, Hindu, Voodoo and AbdullaDoo religions

But the fact is they have their own perspective, for all your insistence that they don't.

"They"?????

You seem to be distancing yourself from the in-womb-baby-killing enthusiasts.

Did you vote for it?
Did you dance for it?
Did you cheer for it?
Did you watch the video and smile with delight?

No offence meant, a chara, and I'm sure none taken. I fully accept that some religions, ethnic and cultural groups enthusiastically support in-womb-baby-killing.

These religions have no Constitutional backing and we should just deport them all to Somewhere Else.

Thank you for being brave enough to debate this issue. You must be the bravest abortion enthusiast man in all of Ireland.

 

[Diarmuid]

Just politely asking all posters to have at least some abortion content in their posts here. Thanking all posters for their comedy contributions on this tragic subject.

For general atheist debates, nationalism, etc you have plenty of other threads.

Please show some consideration for others. Even if you are psycho liars, unable to empathize with others, do some research and make a show of consideration for others.

No word from @Haven??? As an abortion enthusiast, he is warmly invited to contribute here.

I wonder did he watch the video and is vomiting his guts up. It's very distressing to normal, non-psycho people, and perhaps he is one.