Do you believe in God, deities, souls, spirits & things like that?

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I think a genuinely right-wing view of life needs to be based in a genuine belief in God, deities, souls & spirits.

For instance you always find Leftists saying they don't mind Buddhism of the religions because there are no deities or concepts of God in this religion which is probably not entirely true.

The only way to return to a more agricultural way of life is through faith in God, I think.

This is probably why Islam places so much emphasis on God but also spirits such as 'djinni'. The more supernaturally you think the more likely you are to build a society based on replenishable agriculture.
 

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Not really following your point. The original religion of my country was pagan and had nothing got to do with recent foreign imports such as Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Buddhism etc.
 

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I believe in the existence of spirits. A spirit appeared in a photo l took once. I also think that spirits interfere with the electricity in My House. It takes hours to charge up My i-phone.
 

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I think a genuinely right-wing view of life needs to be based in a genuine belief in God, deities, souls & spirits.

For instance you always find Leftists saying they don't mind Buddhism of the religions because there are no deities or concepts of God in this religion which is probably not entirely true.

The only way to return to a more agricultural way of life is through faith in God, I think.

This is probably why Islam places so much emphasis on God but also spirits such as 'djinni'. The more supernaturally you think the more likely you are to build a society based on replenishable agriculture.
No deities for me I'm afraid feuds

Which one do you believe in? 🤔
 

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Yes from a Christian POV it's easy to understand their spirits - The Father, Son & Holy Spirit.

The Holy Spirit, through encounter, devotion and faith is passed on to the Father who in turn passes it on to the Son.
We examine the son to find he bears a close resemblance to the father, follows in the fathers footsteps, has the fathers name which is also the name of original saints who were closest to the Holy spirit.

Father and Son attend church services to enhance and enliven their bonds with the Holy Spirit who imparts the power of God to them and through them.
Recharged with Spirit anew they go forth and multiply as the Spirit commands and soon their is a new Son who also will adopt the essence of his fathers spirituality.

It's plain to see. :cool:
 

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For instance you always find Leftists saying they don't mind Buddhism of the religions because there are no deities or concepts of God in this religion which is probably not entirely true.

The question of Buddhism and contemporary Westerners is an interesting one.
 

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The question of Buddhism and contemporary Westerners is an interesting one.
I used to think in 2 dimensions --everything i read and was told was in 2 dimensions --very occasionally you would hold an item in your hand and explore it 3 dimensionally .
if you allowed it--god would creep up unannounced and speak -- with me it was with simple flowers --i have spent many hours looking/staring/drinking in at great works of art all over the world and after a while god would speak to you --you would connect with the majesty of the painting or in your hand you would quieten yourself and allow the colours of the flowers to heighten your closeness to god as you see that no painter no art gallery has what you have in your hand at this minute --the brilliance and total honesty of the colours with their non gloss magic sheen impossible to render in 2 dimensions by the worlds most sophisticated printer or by the most accomplished painter.
when my small children would turn and look at me and make a sound --where the look and the sound came from was sacred i knew -i was humbled and i occasionally was overcome with the intensity and sometimes fear came and told me if i am not around this child is defenseless against what i was never sure but something intruded and brought that thought to mind .
i met god once when i was 16 --it lasted about 20 seconds and i thought i went mad and i spent years trying to meet him again and even went to India .
after wandering and searching for years i discovered texts which dealt with meeting god in the Upanishads and i studied these for a few years with the help of a teacher .
there was only one line in my bible which allowed me access to god and permission to meet him any time i wished -however this was opposed by my religion which put a pope as head of my church instead of god .
GOD IS WITHIN YOU -- Christ.
nobody should be fearful about talking about their experience with god --as everyone on earth has a different experience of meeting the same entity-
i am too old to be fearful of what people think of me personally -- there is a god -he /it is not owned by any religion.
there is precisely the same amount of god in a member of a lost amazonian tribe who has never heard of a church or religion or pope or queen as in me and as in you --we all have the same amount -religion has nothing to do with it .
thanks be to god .
 

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I believe in it all, especially God and Demons.

I just think we have been made to forget a lot of the darker things because it allows the sick leaders to conduct their business without much suspicion.
 

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Do any of you guys believe in Adam and Eve, I mean literally?

There's a guy here who does and who also claims to he an expert on evolutionary theory, can you adam and eve that

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Do any of you guys believe in Adam and Eve, I mean literally?

There's a guy here who does and who also claims to he an expert on evolutionary theory, can you adam and eve that

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I believe in them more than I do Adam and Steve!

But in all seriousness though, I believe they did perhaps but not in the biblical sense as we are told, it's a chicken and egg thing.
 

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Do any of you guys believe in Adam and Eve, I mean literally?
Sure, again it's open to interpretation, we can believe it's an allegory used in establishing the fundamental foundations of their religions, from back then through the ages till literally now and later on to the end of time.

There are various theories on evolution, Darwin's hogs the limelight, but their are other schools of thought on the subject.

It's rarely a black or white issue, is it?
 

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Sure, again it's open to interpretation, we can believe it's an allegory used in establishing the fundamental foundations of their religions, from back then through the ages till literally now and later on to the end of time.

There are various theories on evolution, Darwin's hogs the limelight, but their are other schools of thought on the subject.

It's rarely a black or white issue, is it?
that's a wise reply as if it suits you believe .
i as a kid in school got a hiding for questioning this and the hiding was the best thing that ever happened to me --it made me question everything .
i asked a female religious who was one of a team designated to give us a retreat --how could god hire/use an evil snake for his assistant and what was an evil snake doing in a garden of Eden in the first place .
we are told he seduced/charmed eve and it was not his good looks and he had no arms all he had was his tongue--- i thought i was smart with this and she reported me to the brothers who were horrified at the sexual innuendo to a visitor--- i got a hammering and was told i was an undesirable presence in the school and i was on final warning any other incident and i would be expelled .
i silently stewed on the garden of Eden for years later and looked at it from every angle and when i read the Hindu tradition which is written about by WB Yeats who states in his poem WE PLUCKED TILL TIMES AND TIME WERE DONE THE GOLDEN APPLES OF THE SUN -THE SILVER APPLES OF THE MOON.
This was from the tree of knowledge in the Hindu garden of Eden on mount Meru where everyone without penalty or charge can eat from the tree of knowledge for eternity and the knowledge acquired brings you closer to god and that is therefore as good as it gets in the garden of Eden.
why would god restrict knowledge - no god would .
women were stigmatized for being easy to seduce and treacherous and stupid and selfish and had to be punished by suffering monthly pain for their adult lifetime and kept from high office due to their inherent mental deficiencies .
this is reflected in the constant refusal to give them a meaningful role in the catholic church and elsewhere .
the garden of Eden was surely the most evil garden ever thought up by man and had the biggest effect on humanity for all time.
ORIGINAL SIN is defined in theology as HEREDITARY DEPRAVITY try and say that to your missus and see what happens .
 
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I believe in them more than I do Adam and Steve!
Amen

There are various theories on evolution, Darwin's hogs the limelight, but their are other schools of thought on the subject.

It's rarely a black or white issue, is it?
There aren't any that incorporate Adam and Eve

women were stigmatized for being easy to seduce and treacherous and stupid and selfish and had to be punished by suffering monthly pain for their adult lifetime and kept from high office due to their inherent mental deficiencies
Based
 

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There aren't any that incorporate Adam and Eve
But there are! :cool:

Here, have a quick glance at these . . .


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So, what you have above are timelines, references and records of Mans Spiritual, Technological, Cultural & Civil Evolution's . . . Among other things . . . - Adam & Eve are mentioned around 4004BC.
;) True, no?

ETA:- Oh, I forgot to include an integral essential development over the 10,000 year period - Agricultural Evolution = The Garden of Eden😇
 
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I think a genuinely right-wing view of life needs to be based in a genuine belief in God, deities, souls & spirits.

For instance you always find Leftists saying they don't mind Buddhism of the religions because there are no deities or concepts of God in this religion which is probably not entirely true.

The only way to return to a more agricultural way of life is through faith in God, I think.

This is probably why Islam places so much emphasis on God but also spirits such as 'djinni'. The more supernaturally you think the more likely you are to build a society based on replenishable agriculture.
It depends.

There are basically two main sects of Buddhism; Theravada, and Mahayana. Theravada is highly spiritual and supernatural. Mahayana is not. Traditional Buddhism (Theravada) definitely posits Gods, or at least conceptualizes them. In the diagram below, you will see the Demon Yama, Lord of Death (but also impermanence and change) presiding over the wheel of Samsara (Death and Rebirth). Buddhism posits reincarnation (at least traditionally) and also different types of heaven and Hell 'places' which are arrived at depending on one's karmic expression. These are different from those concepts espoused in Christianity because they are not inescapable. It is possible to rise from hell to heaven or from heaven to Hell, or somewhere in between. The Theravadists believe these realms actually exist. The Mahayanists (especially the Japanese) believe these refer to mind states, and that they don't actually exist.

In the centre of the wheel of samsara you can see a rooster, a pig, and a snake. These are referred to as the 'Three Poisons', and represent ignorance (the pig) desire (the rooster) and hatred (the snake). They are all biting one another's tails, which represents these energies all feeding into one another, cyclically. These energies, or emotional states, are what keep people trapped in the cycle of samsara, the cycle of death and rebirth over and over. For both sects of Buddhism, the crux of what they believe is that suffering arises from the human need to try to attach to, or preserve, the impermanence of existence. Because change is the only constant, becoming attached to the world, and the things in it, and yes even people, is simply going to result in suffering. And it's quite a convincing argument. Who here hasn't looked at a photograph of themselves as a young person, for example, and felt sadness or nostalgia and everything that goes with it, for what is and what has been?

The way out, they say, is to achieve enlightenment. What is enlightenment? Well, it is more or less the ability to see the world as it truly is, the state of true objective reality--the endless rising and falling of things. A state of realization whereby one can see that all is truly impermanent, cyclical, even death itself being a transition, not a finality.

If you look at the top of the diagram, the Buddha in the top right corner is pointing to the moon on the left, the idea being that there is a way to escape the dominion of Yama and the wheel of Samsara. He is pointing to what people refer to as "Nirvana", freedom from the wheel of death and rebirth, and from suffering.

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Could be a mini-twister or nothing !
Looks a purely natural phenomena to me, but I can't say what, and if ghosts exist they must also be considered natural phenomena as well.

To my mind it is apparitions and presence that are the real deal when it comes to ghosts, recognisable forms, noises and other activities rather than just blobby lights in the background, as spooky as they may be.
 

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