Dublin Anti-Mass Migration protest, 13 July 2024

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Somewhat unusually the main protest did not march through Dublin, instead it just circled Parnell Square, around the Rotunda and passing Sinn Fein headquarters. (At the very end a small group did march through O'Connell Street, on the footpath passing the GPO, but maybe only about 30 people.)

It was MC'ed by Malachy Steenson, the newly elected Councillor in Dublin who called to speak Glen Moore of the Irish Freedom party, also a newly elected Councillor. At one point Malachy asked if a National Party representative would like to speak and initially the offer was not taken up, but was a little time later. Gavin Pepper, also newly elected, spoke as well and I think alluded to running in the General Election in October.

Overall it was maybe about half the size of the very large protest that was held before the elections, which is still quite a good turnout.

by Brian Nugent, www.orwellianireland.com

 

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And you should not be on discourage and i dont believe you are, maybe you should pay a few bob for a decent internet
 

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No, he is genuine. He believes that “we” owe the 7 billion third world people a bed and breakfast permanent vacation package
 

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Every village and town in Ireland is now stocked full of these 'asylum seekers', many of whom come from safe countries as pointed out above.

They come here, passing dozens of safe countries on the way because they get the best welfare here.

We're in the middle of the worst housing crisis in history. Young Irish people are having to live with their parents into their 30s as they try to save for a deposit for a home of their own. Homes that are extortionately priced due to immigration, as are of course rents, if you can find somewhere. It's a three week wait to see a doctor. Sometimes years to see a specialist. All due to immigration.

And we're to just accept all of this?

Fuck that!
 

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Not until an AK barks again will the regime take Irish people seriously.....it gives me no pleasure to say that , but it's the situation we now find ourselves in ......nothing makes sense and it's not even supposed to make sense , we are to just accept everything and anything
 

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That's what the regime here tell us all the time, blame capitalism for the housing market. I have personally being in new housing estates where the percentage of Irish getting houses is one or two percent. You find this with private housing and public housing now, and all over Ireland, I don't understand how you cannot see that mass immigration is really the only explanation in town for the housing crisis.
 

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I do have both a nice car and phone in fairness.
 

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Mods vs Roc_ers
"We're more talking about Fianna Fail in charge of the economy since 1932, and such concepts as what the economist Ricardo termed ‘economic rent’, and such facts as say Adam Smith noted that land rents did not reflect the efforts of the land-owner. And Fianna Fail's manipulation of this, exploiting it for political gain,"

Yes the Communist principles, which we now live under, are not just to blame capitalism, but to blame the past, its always a new better state because the old regime was ever so bad. There is no way that FF or anybody else in the 1930s was ever as bad as this government in any particular. At that time they built public housing for example, and, amazingly, for Irish people!

"So all these people working on these issues hold to the view that only solidarity and concerted action can alleviate and solve the issues, and they are busy progressing that view."

I wonder is that corporate speak, as is the pic you posted, just waffle?

"For example do you propose that ...the 1951 Geneva convention that sets out the rights of refugees ...is rescinded?"

Yes absolutely. Do you think that the people in 1951 thought a refugee was a guy who gets way more benefits from the state than the native citizens, and then goes back to the war torn country he comes from for his holidays? Do you think the 1951 model of a refugee was some guy attracted to promises from the relevant state's minister, made in multiple tweets, that sought to attract them from safe states by promises of a house straight away?
 

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A significant percentage are. Some are judged as officially so. Some don't meet the criteria, even though they may be refugees in many considerable respects. Some are gaming the system.
Why do you think Ireland never took in 'refugees' in any significant numbers up until the last decade or two?

Why is Roderic O'Gorman saying we have to take in 20k every year when for the entirety of our history this was not the case?
Mostly, because the men are sent ahead to find somewhere the family can be safe and provided for in. Certainly in other cases, I am sure they are just young men seeking a better life for themselves and taking their chances.
There are no wars in these men's Countries. Why should Ireland have to settle 10's of thousands of migrants who 'want a better life' out of a global population where literally billions of people could claim to be in need of a better life?

If anyone watches the gumball video and still thinks any of this makes sense then they're mentally retarded.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6tSqGCfoCI
 

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Some say this roc lad is a civil engineer, maybe he is because there were some right dim bulbs in my class in UCG.

amazingly enough my classmates are seriously delusional and see themselves as citizens of Earth and they being the ruling elite. How they got this retarded is a mystery to me and another classmate that escaped to the US as well.
 

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That is live footage sent to me from our man there.

The have been pushed back from both entrances.

Better not share the other footage but that is up to the minute
 

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It's not due to immigrants. The state of our property market today is a direct result of everything that has ever happened in our property market. It's a function of the rezoning corruption in the period 1963-1971 that lead to an average of 530% speculative windfall profit on “serviced” land (undeveloped land which has the main services of water, sewerage and drainage close to it) across Dublin. It's a function of the 1997-2007 Bertie bubble era and the lower tax, and tax incentives, and refusal to countenance counter-cyclical policies, and SSIAs, and deregulation, in hand with the Irish media stoking all the worst elements. It's a function of the soliciting the massive US private equity and venture capital funds, promising them advantages and giving them formal reassurances, if they would only come in and as Lenihan put it, "put a floor under the market", basically meaning shore up the bonanza gains of 1997-2007, the speculative windfalls, tax take, banking profits, financial fees, economic rents, monopoly rents, padding of cartel nests, unearned income, and everything else that came from the "boom" of Bertie Ahern. Of course the immigrants were needed too, to play their part in all the above. But are they at the centre of all that circle of cause and effect? No, they're not. But perhaps you could tell me who else you might put there?
Forget the past. We are where we are and our government as a group of people elected to represent us, to deliver policies that improve our lives should not be exacting policies that are making our lives harder, and negatively affecting our society.

So, they need to tackle immigration. There's far too many people coming here!

They need to stop allowing these so-called asylum seekers coming here. This is easy; you just limit financial and housing support to them so they go elsewhere to get a better deal.

Rents need to be capped immediately! Actually lower than what they are by a decent percentage, and fuck the landlords!

Foreign financiers like BlackRock need to be stopped from buying every house and apartment that pop up before our young people can!

These are things the people need and want, and so our government should be doing them. It's as simple as that!

The past is irrelevant!
 

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Roc is forgetting of course that the people elected Steenson, Gavin Pepper and Pat Quinlan.

A hoard of paid Kangals on twitter does not change that
 

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The Taoiseach meanwhile, is stating definitively that the local people have come out in support of the Gardai and against the protestors. This is not true at all, but, we are only into a few months of the new full on media tirade of protestors being thugs etc. If we get a couple of years of this media brainwashing they might turn some people their way. The Covid thing showed that a huge proportion of the population get their info from RTE, we know they are lying about everything - in that press conference three government ministers referred to the entirely fictitious petrol bombs - but a lot of the general public do not and can be swayed.
 

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Cop helicopter has crossed over my gaff a couple of times. They're obviously still monitoring Coolock from the sky.
 

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The Taoiseach meanwhile, is stating definitively that the local people have come out in support of the Gardai and against the protestors. This is not true at all, but, we are only into a few months of the new full on media tirade of protestors being thugs etc. If we get a couple of years of this media brainwashing they might turn some people their way. The Covid thing showed that a huge proportion of the population get their info from RTE, we know they are lying about everything - in that press conference three government ministers referred to the entirely fictitious petrol bombs - but a lot of the general public do not and can be swayed.

Less Camp Fires - More Town Hall meeting!

To be honest, the knackers drive a stronger rig🤷‍♂️
 

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Maybe its not Sir. But that doesn't mean the Coolock people are wrong in trying to keep them out.
 

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It certainly is not irrelevant when you are postulating cause and effect, and presenting that as incitement, essentially.

I take issue with this postulated cause and effect, as I set out on the first page. And now you are even admitting that your postulations of cause and effect disregards everything but the present!

That is retarded. Yet you still all bleat it.
It is absolutely irrelevant! We are where we are and we need solutions, regardless of how we got where we are.

Far too many people are coming here many of whom we know nothing about and these people are being dumped on top of the people in towns and villages across Ireland. In some little villages there are more single men from the middle East and Africa than there are locals FFS!

In bigger towns and cities nobody can find rental properties, public services are at breaking point, and crime is on the rise as foreign criminal gangs move in.

Do you want to see us continue down this path as a country? What'll it be like in ten more years? Towns and cities here resembling Luton, Southall, Brixton etc. Do you want to see this?

Young people and young families struggling just to put a roof over their heads, and that's before the inevitable recession hits. How the fuck will we cope then?

Please answer the questions I've asked you.
 

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Sure thing. :rolleyes:


No. But I've not been too happy about the path of the country well before this wave of immigration. That path lead here, actually, from quite a long way back.


I'm not sure. It depends on what people perceive as the problem, because that will dictate the solutions.

Possibly we will have your buddies, the halfwit fascist populists in power, and a country perhaps along the lines of Russia - totalitarian, authoritarian, organised along nationalistic ethnic lines, upholding the idea of the all powerful nation state.

Possibly we will have the far left in power - totalitarian, and authoritarian in a different manner, with their depraved taste for equality, the weak attempting to lower everyone to their own level, so that we have something approaching slavery as opposed to inequality with freedom.

Speaking personally, the future I'd like to see is one that stems from the Irish people finally finding the maturity to stop pointing at others, and point at ourselves, engage in self-criticism, self reflection, and decide how we with justice unravel and reverse the hideous entrapments that we've weaved ourselves into since independence.


God no. Though it's much less the demographics of those places that I would abhor, as the architecture and layout that reflects a certain set of values that are bereft of anything one might hold precious as Irish.


That's what I've been trying to talk about. There are parasitic economic forces that leech up everything, a financialised rentier economy increasingly dependent on foreign subsidy and exploitation, as our own domestic economy shrivels. These are questions of “financial engineering” that has transformed our houses into financial vehicles.

But rather than talk about that you want to talk about how the only problem there is is fucking immigrants, send them all home and everthing will be fine? You're fucking retarded if you think that, you and the chimps on here.
I said there's far too many people coming here and given there's a housing crisis and such a strain on public services this needs to change.

Do you not agree?

I've said our government need to cap rents at sensible amounts, this helping our young people to be able to afford to move from the nest.

Do you not agree?

I've said our government needs to be stopping parasitic companies from buying up all of our housing, which keeps inflating the market, so the people can buy it instead, at more affordable prices.

Do you not agree?

I also said our government needs to provide less money and support for these so-called asylum seekers so that they'll go elsewhere.

Do you not agree?

None of my solutions are relevant to the far ends of the political spectrum. They're not born from any political ideology. They're just very logical solutions required to deal with very real and important societal problems.

There's nothing fascist about logic!
 

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Speaking personally, the future I'd like to see is one that stems from the Irish people finally finding the maturity to stop pointing at others, and point at ourselves, engage in self-criticism, self reflection, and decide how we with justice unravel and reverse the hideous entrapments that we've weaved ourselves into since independence.
We ARE pointing at ourselves, at the Irish traitors like you who support mass immigration and the replacement of Irish people. The criticism from the "far right" is not aimed at immigrants, it's aimed at the Government and libtards who are criticising us for the problems they have caused with mass immigration.

The immigrants (who are not rapists, murderers and criminals) are merely pawns taking advantage of an open doors policy facilitated by the Irish Government without our mandate and against our will. We have nothing against non-rapist immigrants per se, we just want them to fuck off back to their own countries, no hard feelings.

Some of us have decided how to deal with the traitors through the justice system - the death penalty.
 

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The fucking state of this country. A group of what are described as "protestors" have started removing the steel fencing around the grand canal...wait for it.... Because it's a hindrance to the gangs of asylum shoppers who want to pitch their tents in that area.

Is there a bigger crowd of fuckwits than these left wing cunts?

On the bright side, I've been provided with a comprehensive list of groups who will be the first to enter the crocodile enclosure

Community Action Tenants Union (CATU) Rathmines and Liberties branches, People Before Profit Dublin Bay South, Social Rights Ireland, Fronta Nua, Queer Intifada, University College Dublin Boycott Divest Sanction (UCD BDS) and United Against Racism

Again. Killiney Hill and Howth Head are tailor made for campers - The Canal Strip is not, as has been proven, it's obvious.
 

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Time to sniff for rats, that building would be secured by gardai
 

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