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We have talked about it so much, we have had so many false dawns and mirages of opposition, but is it here now? Did it come? Do we really have now the mythical momentum in genuine opposition to the NWO and powers that be in Ireland?
Its hard to imagine but I think some optimism is justified? On what issue I hear you ask? Opposition to mass immigration, it really appears that this is the one issue where Irish people will take to the streets and will fight against it.
Don't look at me, I cannot explain it. The government basically abolished religious practice for about two years, closed pubs and countless small businesses, imprisoned people in their homes, and are now abolishing turf etc etc, so you would imagine opposition would come from there somewhere? But no, that isn't the issue, its opposition to mass immigration that has really captured the imagination of people.
I say that because I am back from a protest in Mullingar which was organised about 48 hours earlier, in a town, and even county, with absolutely no tradition of large protests whatsoever, and it just brought at least 500 people onto the streets. It was really a breathtaking size of crowd to be organised by really only two people and at such short notice (and they were nearly all Mullingar people). Anyway if one was trying to figure this out I think maybe a few factors are at play:
a) The opposition in working class areas of Dublin has kind of inspired people. The quiet persistence of first of all East Wall, and now cropping up all over Dublin, is having a kind of 1916 effect, you want your area to be as rebellious! Anyway its strikes people as the only modern successful Irish protest of a genuinely grassroots nature - the media and establishment are clearly on the run because of it. So that's an element, people are attracted towards the fight like this, which is a great thing obviously!
b) A big element is a question of safety as people go around their local towns. While the media/gardai have been very successful and determined in absolutely suppressing any mention of sexual assaults etc being perpetrated by immigrants, news has nonetheless got about by word of mouth and social media. For example a while ago there was all this talk of an immigrant in Wicklow, I think Bray, assaulting people and roaming the streets and I think I remember similar stories in Ardee, or somewhere in South Louth, and actually all over the place. So women especially are concerned about this and feel very uncomfortable with huge populations of male immigrants in nearly all Irish towns now.
c) Also there has been a quiet anger building up where Irish people feel like second class citizens in their own country. They will have experience of somebody they know waiting 17 or 18 years on a housing list and so those wonderful pictures in the local newspapers of recent immigrants getting free new houses are bound to cause some disquiet. But not just that, there are a whole load of areas where Irish people don't seem to get anything like the supports that the immigrants get and the constant urgency from the government to address the needs of the latter group, at the expense of the former, grates after a while.
d) One thing much talked about by some, is how Irish people have emigrated, or travelled all over the world, and hence have no right to criticise immigration here. Of course that's true enough in a way, but also means that Irish people are typically well informed about the immigration procedures of getting into America and Australia and whatever, and consequently they are flabbergasted that people can come here so easily, even tearing up passports that would probably get an Irish person jailed in those other countries. So basically they want to know why immigration laws seem so lax towards some groups coming to Ireland - not all groups, some Irish Americans and Irish Australians find immigration into Ireland very difficult - and they don't like this laxness. Also they can see the problems that arose on this in places like the UK and they don't want it to happen here.
e) But actually I think there is a much more fundamental issue going on here, and it involves race. Up to this the constant refrain from the powers that be has been that there are only a few coming here and it would be racist not to show hospitality to them etc, but otherwise the change in the Irish ethnic balance has been quite invisible. Meaning that up to 2 or 3 years ago, or less, the media in Ireland and public life generally, has continued to be dominated by white Irish people. But recently, and suddenly, all that has changed. Now everywhere you turn, the media, ads on the TV, - even sport, look at the makeup of Irish national sports teams and athletics competitors recently - , seems to be dominated by people of different ethnic backgrounds who claim to be Irish.
No doubt this is the powers that be deliberately breaking the Irish sense of identity, and using race as their battering ram, but anyway, bottom line, Irish people don't want to be a minority in their own country. They never signed up for that. They are now looking around them on the bus or whatever and becoming conscious of race, because as I say its thrust upon them now from every direction, and they don't like being completely surrounded by, and they are beginning to feel dominated by, people that realistically they don't regard as Irish.
That's why it grew up so much in Dublin and why the people there are so determined about it, because otherwise Dublin people are rapidly losing their sense of identity. Look at the famed Moore Street nowadays, its frankly unrecognisable now as part of an Irish city.
While I strongly feel its very important to be respectful of all human beings, of any ethnicity and religion etc, and nobody should 'blame' immigrants themselves, not in the slightest, nonetheless I don't think that the above mentioned instinct of Irish people about race is wrong. Irish people are not the master race, I can assure you!, but they are entitled to feel part of a distinct ethnic community, just like any other race. Its not nice, feeling like a stranger in your own land, and its not improper to fight against that.
Anyway that's proving to be the powder keg issue in Ireland, and the establishment is really feeling the heat. We hear 'far right' from the lips of every media presenter and politician, to explain all this, but it isn't working. Irish people might not be very sophisticated in their politics in modern times, but they are not going to buy that particular slander!
Who knows how this will all play out!
(I do appreciate the above is talking about mass immigration whereas the protests are talking about asylum seekers only, but realistically I think it does boil down to race and these other mass immigration issues, even if people are sometimes afraid to admit as much!)
Its hard to imagine but I think some optimism is justified? On what issue I hear you ask? Opposition to mass immigration, it really appears that this is the one issue where Irish people will take to the streets and will fight against it.
Don't look at me, I cannot explain it. The government basically abolished religious practice for about two years, closed pubs and countless small businesses, imprisoned people in their homes, and are now abolishing turf etc etc, so you would imagine opposition would come from there somewhere? But no, that isn't the issue, its opposition to mass immigration that has really captured the imagination of people.
I say that because I am back from a protest in Mullingar which was organised about 48 hours earlier, in a town, and even county, with absolutely no tradition of large protests whatsoever, and it just brought at least 500 people onto the streets. It was really a breathtaking size of crowd to be organised by really only two people and at such short notice (and they were nearly all Mullingar people). Anyway if one was trying to figure this out I think maybe a few factors are at play:
a) The opposition in working class areas of Dublin has kind of inspired people. The quiet persistence of first of all East Wall, and now cropping up all over Dublin, is having a kind of 1916 effect, you want your area to be as rebellious! Anyway its strikes people as the only modern successful Irish protest of a genuinely grassroots nature - the media and establishment are clearly on the run because of it. So that's an element, people are attracted towards the fight like this, which is a great thing obviously!
b) A big element is a question of safety as people go around their local towns. While the media/gardai have been very successful and determined in absolutely suppressing any mention of sexual assaults etc being perpetrated by immigrants, news has nonetheless got about by word of mouth and social media. For example a while ago there was all this talk of an immigrant in Wicklow, I think Bray, assaulting people and roaming the streets and I think I remember similar stories in Ardee, or somewhere in South Louth, and actually all over the place. So women especially are concerned about this and feel very uncomfortable with huge populations of male immigrants in nearly all Irish towns now.
c) Also there has been a quiet anger building up where Irish people feel like second class citizens in their own country. They will have experience of somebody they know waiting 17 or 18 years on a housing list and so those wonderful pictures in the local newspapers of recent immigrants getting free new houses are bound to cause some disquiet. But not just that, there are a whole load of areas where Irish people don't seem to get anything like the supports that the immigrants get and the constant urgency from the government to address the needs of the latter group, at the expense of the former, grates after a while.
d) One thing much talked about by some, is how Irish people have emigrated, or travelled all over the world, and hence have no right to criticise immigration here. Of course that's true enough in a way, but also means that Irish people are typically well informed about the immigration procedures of getting into America and Australia and whatever, and consequently they are flabbergasted that people can come here so easily, even tearing up passports that would probably get an Irish person jailed in those other countries. So basically they want to know why immigration laws seem so lax towards some groups coming to Ireland - not all groups, some Irish Americans and Irish Australians find immigration into Ireland very difficult - and they don't like this laxness. Also they can see the problems that arose on this in places like the UK and they don't want it to happen here.
e) But actually I think there is a much more fundamental issue going on here, and it involves race. Up to this the constant refrain from the powers that be has been that there are only a few coming here and it would be racist not to show hospitality to them etc, but otherwise the change in the Irish ethnic balance has been quite invisible. Meaning that up to 2 or 3 years ago, or less, the media in Ireland and public life generally, has continued to be dominated by white Irish people. But recently, and suddenly, all that has changed. Now everywhere you turn, the media, ads on the TV, - even sport, look at the makeup of Irish national sports teams and athletics competitors recently - , seems to be dominated by people of different ethnic backgrounds who claim to be Irish.
No doubt this is the powers that be deliberately breaking the Irish sense of identity, and using race as their battering ram, but anyway, bottom line, Irish people don't want to be a minority in their own country. They never signed up for that. They are now looking around them on the bus or whatever and becoming conscious of race, because as I say its thrust upon them now from every direction, and they don't like being completely surrounded by, and they are beginning to feel dominated by, people that realistically they don't regard as Irish.
That's why it grew up so much in Dublin and why the people there are so determined about it, because otherwise Dublin people are rapidly losing their sense of identity. Look at the famed Moore Street nowadays, its frankly unrecognisable now as part of an Irish city.
While I strongly feel its very important to be respectful of all human beings, of any ethnicity and religion etc, and nobody should 'blame' immigrants themselves, not in the slightest, nonetheless I don't think that the above mentioned instinct of Irish people about race is wrong. Irish people are not the master race, I can assure you!, but they are entitled to feel part of a distinct ethnic community, just like any other race. Its not nice, feeling like a stranger in your own land, and its not improper to fight against that.
Anyway that's proving to be the powder keg issue in Ireland, and the establishment is really feeling the heat. We hear 'far right' from the lips of every media presenter and politician, to explain all this, but it isn't working. Irish people might not be very sophisticated in their politics in modern times, but they are not going to buy that particular slander!
Who knows how this will all play out!
(I do appreciate the above is talking about mass immigration whereas the protests are talking about asylum seekers only, but realistically I think it does boil down to race and these other mass immigration issues, even if people are sometimes afraid to admit as much!)