Should an Irish State have Nuclear weapons?

Should an Irish State have Nuclear weapons?


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SwordOfStZip

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Some would argue that the Socialist part of Korea has maintained it's independence only because it has nuclear missiles and that the Iraq war would not have happened if Saddam had been successful in obtaining them.
 

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A more pertinent question , considering our predicament is Should an Irish state have nuclear power? I’m coming around to that Myself.
 

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A more pertinent question , considering our predicament is Should an Irish state have nuclear power? I’m coming around to that Myself.
First off it would take about 100 years to build it, secondly it would cost trillions and thirdly it would probably blow up.
Paddy and nuclear need to be kept as far apart as possible.
 

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1. Do nuclear weapons actually exist?
2. Yes Ireland should develop its ability with this weapon.
3. Ireland should not be allowed to have this weapon whilst the current State remain in place.
 

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Is this a joke thread?:unsure:
Ya might as well ask should Kangal or The Gowl be left alone in a room full of young children.

Seriously you attack the Mowl but honestly can you not see with a moment's reflection that without his influence on Irish culture not only you would not even have thought about this thread being a joke but would have most likely answered in the affirmative?
 

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Absolutely not.
why would we need a nuke and it would be useless if it required the dail to vote .
therefore who would you trust with it .
imagine somebody having a nervous breakdown or smoking the strong pot and there are pigs flying and banshees screaming to the beat of the kilfanora celi band all in his or her head and she says ""ill quieten ye fuckers right now so i will ""
 

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No it is not.

Are you against humans having nuclear missiles in general?
I am against any state having nuclear weapons. Or whatever it is that hit Hiroshima.
The MIC are about as anti- human as it gets. Everyone ought to be in their area, trying to fix the damage inflicted upon all of the world by their greedy arrogant hands. Re-migrate all.
This planet could work - if we can get rid of the scum that wants our children's blood and souls.
 
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Obviously - 100%. We should have followed through on Carnsore Point.

Any patriot wants the best thing for their country. I want the best things for mine - simple as.
 

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I am against any state having nuclear weapons. Or whatever it is that hit Hiroshima.
The MIC are about as anti- human as it gets. Everyone ought to be in their area, trying to fix the damage inflicted upon all of the world by their greedy arrogant hands. Re-migrate all.
This planet could work - if we can get rid of the scum that wants our children's blood and souls.
Ok, well given that we are living in the real world that actually exists, rather than fantasyland.........
 

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Sure Ireland already has Nukes, has had them for many years, aboard submarines, constantly sailing around the country. Just ask the RNLI.
 

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Why would Ireland need Nuclear Weapons, who the hell would want to nuke us anyhow, then again when you think about it, the number of terrorists we have granted asylum to would be a threat to any nation.
 

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We're Atlanticist's, with Sub's and Airfields. The Russians demonstrated what their plan was last year, remember?
UK has about 250 Nukes, we could afford 1 maybe? Doubt Russia would care, nor would they use Nukes anyhow, its a no win situation.
 

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I support the nuclear armament of countries like Russia, China & Iran but not the United States & Israel as those countries represent atheistic Satanism.
 

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Sure Ireland already has Nukes, has had them for many years, aboard submarines, constantly sailing around the country. Just ask the RNLI.
I am sure that the Healey-Rae's are bound to have some to Protect Kerry anyway ~ ~ Them fellas wouldn't be taking any chance with the Healy-Rae's Empires ! !
 

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I support the nuclear armament of countries like Russia, China & Iran but not the United States & Israel as those countries represent atheistic Satanism.

The Zionist entity is not really atheistic anymore and even when it was it's atheism was miles away from the type of atheism you get from indigenous Irish and English people (hence the Religious symbols on their fleg).
 

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The Zionist entity is not really atheistic anymore and even when it was it's atheism was miles away from the type of atheism you get from indigenous Irish and English people (hence the Religious symbols on their fleg).
They still represent usury & technological 'progress', though.
 

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They still represent usury & technological 'progress', though.

Ironically Zionism for a long time set it's self forward as a path to redeem Jews from neuroticism and mental illness by transforming them into sturdy peasants, Rabbinic Jewish cultures historically despising in particular people engaged in argicultural manual work, but nowadays the people who actual do the physical hard labour on the Kibbutzs are either indigenous Palestinians or Thai "guest workers".
 

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Ironically Zionism for a long time set it's self forward as a path to redeem Jews from neuroticism and mental illness by transforming them into sturdy peasants, Rabbinic Jewish cultures historically despising in particular people engaged in argicultural manual work, but nowadays the people who actual do the physical hard labour on the Kibbutzs are either indigenous Palestinians or Thai "guest workers".
I feel Israeli Jews are like the opposite of Iranian Muslims but similar to them as well in being the opposite of them.

Orthodox Jews don't like Israeli Jews because they're not properly following the religion. Likewise Sunni Muslims think this of Iranian Muslims.
 

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I feel Israeli Jews are like the opposite of Iranian Muslims but similar to them as well in being the opposite of them.

Orthodox Jews don't like Israeli Jews because they're not properly following the religion. Likewise Sunni Muslims think this of Iranian Muslims.

Well Tehran is not the most Religious place in the world to put it mildly but cities with Qom in Iran are almost like Monasteries.

These days most Orthodox Jews have made their peace with Zionism as such though you have a minority which has not- they have not really made their peace with "secular Jews" though and especially not with the aggressive secularist wing of the Zionist movement (which has been it must be said in decline).

Religious Zionism and Khomienism do have some interesting things in common- for instance both a Jewish State in Classical Orthodox Judaism and a Shia Islamic one in (much at least) of Twelver Shi'ism were forbidden until the Messiah in the former and the return of the 12 th Iman in the latter so both have had to do a lot of juggling to justify their courses of actions.
 

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Well Tehran is not the most Religious place in the world to put it mildly but cities with Qom in Iran are almost like Monasteries.

These days most Orthodox Jews have made their peace with Zionism as such though you have a minority which has not- they have not really made their peace with "secular Jews" though and especially not with the aggressive secularist wing of the Zionist movement (which has been it must be said in decline).

Religious Zionism and Khomienism do have some interesting things in common- for instance both a Jewish State in Classical Orthodox Judaism and a Shia Islamic one in (much at least) of Twelver Shi'ism were forbidden until the Messiah in the former and the return of the 12 th Iman in the latter so both have had to do a lot of juggling to justify their courses of actions.
Yeah but the reason most Orthodox Jews have accepted Israel is because it has become more like the United States which is the centre of Judaism & also they are under attack from antisemites in Europe so they have to accept what Israel does.

Once Europe becomes more Jewish Muslims will begin to accept what the Iranians are doing. The Iranians are also going to move some what to the left which will please most Muslims.
 

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Yeah but the reason most Orthodox Jews have accepted Israel is because it has become more like the United States which is the centre of Judaism & also they are under attack from antisemites in Europe so they have to accept what Israel does.

Once Europe becomes more Jewish Muslims will begin to accept what the Iranians are doing. The Iranians are also going to move some what to the left which will please most Muslims.

What do you mean exactly by moving to the Left in this context? That can involve very different things to different people.

I really like the Celine avatar.
 

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Yes Ireland should have a nuclear arsenal, but first ye need an actual army, and an navy, and an actual airforce. When we finally have such, ye then need to have nuclear energy, and I am not talking about the fact that we take as much of 20 percent of our energy sucking off the brits, due to the fact that wind is a scam as we are run by scum, and so have nuclear energy all the time feeding our energy mix. Funny how so many clowns are against nuclear energy and yet we are being fed it, and dependent on it. The brits are fed by france on top of that.

Ye get to that level, then yes, we can think on having nuclear weapons, but since we lack an army, a navy and an airforce, left alone an understanding on nuclear energy, the fuck are we even talking about here ?
 

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What do you mean exactly by moving to the Left in this context? That can involve very different things to different people.

I really like the Celine avatar.
As far as I'm aware the Iranians practise something like National Socialism but will at some point start practising something less extreme.
 

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