The Climate Change scam

Myles O'Reilly

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Only you JPC could tell people to read a (presumably long) article on a Site where you need to be a member!

Btw Sir, storm Helena has wrought catastrophic damage to the southeast of the US.

Do you think that is linked to Climate Change?
 

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I wish people would shut the fuck about climate change. If the models we have are accurate, we're already beyond fucked and nothing we do at this point matters, even we went 100% emissions neutral globally tomorrow. We've already hit the feedback loops, and it's over. Forgetting that I don't care how green you think you are, or how hairy you let your armpits get, you cannot participate in the civilizations we have constructed without directly contributing, every day, to the destruction of the world. That's what people are; two-legged maggots accelerating the entropic death of the planet.

I recently had a conversation with a guy who works for the largest energy company in Aus, and he quite plainly told me that behind closed doors global warming is not even a consideration outside the marketing department. The biggest problem that exists, at least in my country, is that there's not enough fossil fuels to meet energy demands over the next fifty years. That's actually why the Government is pushing renewables. Not because of the environment. Because that's what we've got as it would take way too long to go nuclear, if we were going to do that we should have done it 25-30 years ago.
 

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Only you JPC could tell people to read a (presumably long) article on a Site where you need to be a member!

Btw Sir, storm Helena has wrought catastrophic damage to the southeast of the US.

Do you think that is linked to Climate Change?
I think it's due to a hurricane!
The evidence is strongly in favour of that theory!
 

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I wish people would shut the fuck about climate change. If the models we have are accurate, we're already beyond fucked and nothing we do at this point matters, even we went 100% emissions neutral globally tomorrow. We've already hit the feedback loops, and it's over. Forgetting that I don't care how green you think you are, or how hairy you let your armpits get, you cannot participate in the civilizations we have constructed without directly contributing, every day, to the destruction of the world. That's what people are; two-legged maggots accelerating the entropic death of the planet.

I recently had a conversation with a guy who works for the largest energy company in Aus, and he quite plainly told me that behind closed doors global warming is not even a consideration outside the marketing department. The biggest problem that exists, at least in my country, is that there's not enough fossil fuels to meet energy demands over the next fifty years. That's actually why the Government is pushing renewables. Not because of the environment. Because that's what we've got as it would take way too long to go nuclear, if we were going to do that we should have done it 25-30 years ago.
Wouldn't it be great to stfu about climate change.
Problem is its becoming a religion.
 
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Wouldn't it be great to struggle about climate change.
Problem is its becoming a religion.
The whole thing is totally moot. Completely. I say this as someone who is quite pro-environment and who even works with a few eco groups. It's all just market creation.

We're lucky in Australia to have huge amounts of solar that can be harnessed, but I don't see how it's a solution for the EU, especially when you consider baseload problems. It would have to offset by nuclear, wind is shit. Even here, it's going to take probably a trillion dollars to rework the grid for storage.

"Ewwwwwmegahhhd! Nucwear Wastes!" Scream the lefties resplendent in their tie-dyed cheesecloth imported from a Bangladeshi sweatshop and Sterling Silver Jewellery derived from a mountaintop mine.

Nuclear waste, you say? Here's what 45 years worth of it looks like. North Anna Plant.
These people know nothing. About anything.

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The whole thing is totally moot. Completely. I say this as someone who is quite pro-environment and who even works with a few eco groups. It's all just market creation.

We're lucky in Australia to have huge amounts of solar that can be harnessed, but I don't see how it's a solution for the EU, especially when you consider baseload problems. It would have to offset by nuclear, wind is shit. Even here, it's going to take probably a trillion dollars to rework the grid for storage.

"Ewwwwwmegahhhd! Nucwear Wastes!" Scream the lefties resplendent in their tie-dyed cheesecloth imported from a Bangladeshi sweatshop and Sterling Silver Jewellery derived from a mountaintop mine.

Nuclear waste, you say? Here's what 45 years worth of it looks like. North Anna Plant.
These people know nothing. About anything.

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100% in agreement with your take on the subject.
BTW that shouldn't have been struggle but STFU about climate change.
 

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Only you JPC could tell people to read a (presumably long) article on a Site where you need to be a member!

Btw Sir, storm Helena has wrought catastrophic damage to the southeast of the US.

Do you think that is linked to Climate Change?
Oh Myles yes you can read the (short) article on subject in its entirety!
 
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I wish people would shut the fuck about climate change. If the models we have are accurate, we're already beyond fucked and nothing we do at this point matters, even we went 100% emissions neutral globally tomorrow. We've already hit the feedback loops, and it's over. Forgetting that I don't care how green you think you are, or how hairy you let your armpits get, you cannot participate in the civilizations we have constructed without directly contributing, every day, to the destruction of the world. That's what people are; two-legged maggots accelerating the entropic death of the planet.

I recently had a conversation with a guy who works for the largest energy company in Aus, and he quite plainly told me that behind closed doors global warming is not even a consideration outside the marketing department. The biggest problem that exists, at least in my country, is that there's not enough fossil fuels to meet energy demands over the next fifty years. That's actually why the Government is pushing renewables. Not because of the environment. Because that's what we've got as it would take way too long to go nuclear, if we were going to do that we should have done it 25-30 years ago.
Well, CO2 hardly had much to do with it so .. .. .. What Gives??
 

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Seems the weather has seriously changed, here and there . . .


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjFBWNU-GE4

Aye, even NASA has admitted that the world has got greener since it started recording vegetation cover, 15% I think the last figure I saw was.

The interesting thing is it is not just about water supply but the fact that with a higher CO2 level the leaf stomata do not need to be open as wide or for as long, thus conserving moisture and allowing the plant to live in drier areas.
 

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Seems the weather has seriously changed, here and there . . .


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjFBWNU-GE4

OK, I've just watched the video itself and am left thinking what sort of shallow BS is that! If an area is not used to rainfall then he does not prepare for it and so the kip will likely flood, simple as. Also looking at the well established scrubland shown and thinking that is not the result of recent rains. It's a kinda made up story saying what the reporter thinks is happening in her pretty little head rather than a true analysis of the situation.
 

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OK, I've just watched the video itself and am left thinking what sort of shallow BS is that! If an area is not used to rainfall then he does not prepare for it and so the kip will likely flood, simple as. Also looking at the well established scrubland shown and thinking that is not the result of recent rains. It's a kinda made up story saying what the reporter thinks is happening in her pretty little head rather than a true analysis of the situation.
Sure thing but also the recent "Greening" is significant of a sudden change in rain yields, jet streams and ocean currents.
We've seen that in action this year on our own wee sod, what more proof do we need??
 

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Sure thing but also the recent "Greening" is significant of a sudden change in rain yields, jet streams and ocean currents.
We've seen that in action this year on our own wee sod, what more proof do we need??
10,000 years of precise and consistent global records would be a good start.
 

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The thing is that there really is serious *Climate Change - Weather Change* occurring in a large swathe from West through Central to East Africa. For the last 4+years they've been getting consistently flooded out at Record Levels at the like rarely seen.
The result is a desert undergoing changes that have been previously unknown last century . . .

P.S. Yes of course the desert blooms into colourful life after the rains which dries up fairly fast but recently in Africa . . . . The Greening is suddenly persisting along with the changed new wet rainy weather.

What's funny πŸ˜„πŸ˜ƒπŸ˜πŸ˜…πŸ˜† is when critics dismiss all the evidence as if it's meaningless and doesn't exist. . . .
. . . . but it does!! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_African_Sahel_floods

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Oh yeah< it's been a celebratory time for a change πŸ˜‰πŸ₯³πŸ₯³
 

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The thing is that there really is serious *Climate Change - Weather Change* occurring in a large swathe from West through Central to East Africa. For the last 4+years they've been getting consistently flooded out at Record Levels at the like rarely seen.
The result is a desert undergoing changes that have been previously unknown last century . . .

P.S. Yes of course the desert blooms into colourful life after the rains which dries up fairly fast but recently in Africa . . . . The Greening is suddenly persisting along with the changed new wet rainy weather.

What's funny πŸ˜„πŸ˜ƒπŸ˜πŸ˜…πŸ˜† is when critics dismiss all the evidence as if it's meaningless and doesn't exist. . . .
. . . . but it does!! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_African_Sahel_floods

πŸ€“

Oh yeah< it's been a celebratory time for a change πŸ˜‰πŸ₯³πŸ₯³
It is meaningless as you are comparing a few years with the 3.5 billion years that the climate has been around.
 

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