The concept of the large scale after effects of the "Racial Chaos"/"Ethnic Chaos" of the Late Western Roman Empire.

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I told Sparky that that "White Nationalism" only emerged in the late 1960s and only made sense in a North American context- there is a lot of truth in this but there were definitely predecessors to "White Nationalism" one of which was Nordicism. A core idea in Nordicism is and was that Europe is still suffering the toxic fall out of the degeneration of the Roman Empire, a degeneration that they understand primarily in biological/ethnic terms. If you read the core texts of Nordicism which are "The Foundations of the 19 th Century" by Houston Stewart Chamberlain which was a massive best seller in it's day and "The Myth of the 20 th Century" by Alfred Rosenberg who was the chief ideologue of the NSAD you witness their undertstanding of European history has the struggle between the Nordic Spirit of the young Germanic peoples who over ran the Empire we are told and that of "the Chaos", the in their eyes seething and bubbling with Asiatic poisons biological soup that "Rome" had become (early Rome on the other hand they admire).

The current EU as part of the US Imperium could be compared to the Roman Empire in it's day- I am not sure though how far the comparison goes and is useful.
 

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That'd be whiter then white nationalism, fair enough where it stands on it's own turf, but how can it ignore it's performance abroad?
That Christendom is an ancient global empire seems lost on many.
 

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That'd be whiter then white nationalism, fair enough where it stands on it's own turf, but how can it ignore it's performance abroad?
That Christendom is an ancient global empire seems lost on many.
Yes, and we throw them out but the heathens brought them back.

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Yes, and we throw them out but the heathens brought them back.

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That was not really a racial thing though though it had currents of that- also the lass I know here from a Jewish background has never been to Spain but has a Spanish passport because some of her ancestors at least got chucked out of Spain (if you are Jewish and Sephardi the Spanish State will basically give you a passport whether your ancestors ever lived in Spain or not now).
 

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Yes, and we throw them out but the heathens brought them back.

Reconquista.jpg

An interesting so to speak thing is that my sister is a Unionist but she HATES London which is an "ethnic chaos" and largely because it is to a neurotic almost degree. London to her is a concentration and symbolic of all that she sees as evil in this world to her. Her feelings against the place when triggered can get very intense. I like London but there is no chance that I would want to raise kids there.
 

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I told Sparky that that "White Nationalism" only emerged in the late 1960s and only made sense in a North American context- there is a lot of truth in this but there were definitely predecessors to "White Nationalism" one of which was Nordicism. A core idea in Nordicism is and was that Europe is still suffering the toxic fall out of the degeneration of the Roman Empire, a degeneration that they understand primarily in biological/ethnic terms. If you read the core texts of Nordicism which are "The Foundations of the 19 th Century" by Houston Stewart Chamberlain which was a massive best seller in it's day and "The Myth of the 20 th Century" by Alfred Rosenberg who was the chief ideologue of the NSAD you witness their undertstanding of European history has the struggle between the Nordic Spirit of the young Germanic peoples who over ran the Empire we are told and that of "the Chaos", the in their eyes seething and bubbling with Asiatic poisons biological soup that "Rome" had become (early Rome on the other hand they admire).

The current EU as part of the US Imperium could be compared to the Roman Empire in it's day- I am not sure though how far the comparison goes and is useful.
White nationalism doesn't have any kind of a beginning, or specific geographic location (i.e. America) that you would like to impose on it.
 

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Sword is laughing.. But I will help her through her misconceptions (it's about time) in this thread about what nationalism actually is.
 

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So, to start with, Sword will think of white nationalism as a "movement", basically white dudes in white robes and pointy hats in America.. So I ask Sword first, who are the fascists?

The point of the question of course is so she can separate ideology from a specific group of people.
 

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So, to start with, Sword will think of white nationalism as a "movement", basically white dudes in white robes and pointy hats in America.. So I ask Sword first, who are the fascists?

The point of the question of course is so she can separate ideology from a specific group of people.

I was a Fascist in actual fact- there are very few Fascists around today as in actual Fascists. Okay- what do you understand as White Nationalism?
 

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I was a Fascist in actual fact- there are very few Fascists around today as in actual Fascists. Okay- what do you understand as White Nationalism?
Fascist? Who, Hitler, Mussolini, Mosley, Franco, Fine Gael.. That crowd?

There's nothing complicated about white nationalism, I ask you now, who are the white nationalists? Tommy Robinson?
 

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The only fascism with any clout in the world currently is the fascist left.
 

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Fascist? Who, Hitler, Mussolini, Mosley, Franco, Fine Gael.. That crowd?

There's nothing complicated about white nationalism, I ask you now, who are the white nationalists? Tommy Robinson?

I was very into Mosley and Codreanu with some reservations- the Strasser Brothers yes but Hitler no. Franco was not a Fascist- in fact as soon as he won he butchered the Falangists and the Carlists.

Tommy Robinson is extremely anti-"White Nationalism", much more so than I am.
 

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Best o' luck with this thread, Me not bothered
 

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I was very into Mosley and Codreanu with some reservations- the Strasser Brothers yes but Hitler no. Franco was not a Fascist- in fact as soon as he won he butchered the Falangists and the Carlists.

Tommy Robinson is extremely anti-"White Nationalism", much more so than I am.
I want you to tell me who the white nationalists are
 

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