The Ugly Mob and The Catholic Church

[Frank_]

At the risk of upsetting the mob currently engaged in their witch-hunt against the Catholic Church, can we get a breakdown of the nature and scale of sexual abuse in Ireland over the last 60 years? How widespread was it? Was it solely confined to the Church, as many would have us believe?

The way I see it is that you have an ugly mob (we'll call them shitlibs) circling over the dying carcass of the Catholic church, waiting for any opportunity to pounce. These endless reports and constant caterwauling about the dark past provide them with all the ammunition they need. Because these people don't care about sexual abuse. If they did, they would be just as outspoken about the widespread abuse in sporting organisations, charities etc. They care that it's the Catholic Church, their sworn enemy; an old institution that is antithetical to the to the selfish, soulless, individualistic shitlib worldview.

And I'm not defending the Church. No doubt they deserve plenty of scorn.

If you think I'm wrong, have a look at the Catholic church thread on gaychat, and the absolute state of the ugly mob who want to lock up churches, deprive grannies of their Sunday mass and run priests out of the country.

The rotten edifice of the Catholic Church.

No 'over several decades'. No. Let's wait until we can read the actual report!

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[Professor]

So, the ugly truth is that Perverted Priests and christian brothers within the Catholic Church have had free reign to abuse and rape children in their care. That is to say - the global catholic church.
Not picking on the good priests who do good work for their parish, they kept quiet and ignored the brutality.

It's staggering that in most every country the pedophile priests had immunity to do their twisted thing in Holland, Germany, Canada, Australia, South America, North America?? of course here - The victims of priestly rape know just how ugly was the experience.
Couldn't tell a catholic parent or the child would get punished at home too - a mad religion for some. eh?

Can't blame the victims who want to get revenge.

 

[Wolf]

So, the ugly truth is that Perverted Priests and christian brothers within the Catholic Church have had free reign to abuse and rape children in their care. That is to say - the global catholic church.
Not picking on the good priests who do good work for their parish, they kept quiet and ignored the brutality.

It's staggering that in most every country the pedophile priests had immunity to do their twisted thing in Holland, Germany, Canada, Australia, South America, North America?? of course here - The victims of priestly rape know just how ugly was the experience.
Couldn't tell a catholic parent or the child would get punished at home too - a mad religion for some. eh?

Can't blame the victims who want to get revenge.

Now that there's damn all priests left in Ireland what group do pedophiles join to gain free access to children?
Perhaps the Kangalese can enlighten us?

 

[scolairebocht]

As a country we are more under the thumb of the Globalists than almost any other place, a thing very obvious these days to those concerned about mass migration if it wasn't obvious enough before. And they have a religion, Luciferianism, which of course is always bitterly opposed to the Catholic Church, which is headed by Our Lord. So this absolutely endless cycle of hypology and manufactured or exaggerated scandals will always descend on the Catholic Church until, they hope, they can wipe it out here. There is after all talk of confiscating Church property if they don't 'voluntarily' contribute to the various redress schemes etc.

So the hype now about the Catholic schools will go the usual way. You will get a small number of real scandals, because since the investigation probably involves tens of thousands of teachers, and millions of pupils, over the whole state over 100 years, then of course you will find some real scandals. Then they will add to that some real but relatively minor incidents (someone getting struck with a leather etc), which they will massively exaggerate and hype. Basically any misconduct of any type whatsoever involving a teacher will be thrown into the mix and if it can be claimed to be sexual at all, then the latter will be labelled a paedophile no matter what the details. And then you will get completely made up stories, some of whom I suspect are now hogging the headlines.

This will be pushed forward by the State, via its Stalinist type 'Commission of Inquiry' wheeze, media, which the former controls, and, crucially, senior figures in the Catholic Church here. Thats what some overlook, but in fact there are many 'Globalists' in senior positions in the Church, appointed there by Rome which is influenced by this gang. (After all one of the key Davos attendees over the years from Ireland, was Archbishop Diarmuid Martin.) Their job is to apologise and pay out compensation, even if the teacher/cleric involved protests his/her innocence and was never convicted in a court. This will be particularly true of those who have died and simply cannot defend themselves. The really senior clerics will also spend years now constantly apologising, and this will reinforce wonderfully the State messaging and campaign against the Church.

But I would say even at this stage the survival of the Catholic Church here in the midst of these state sponsored media firestorms, over almost 30 or 40 years of them now, is something approaching miraculous. It isn't the case at all that there are no congregations or priests out there now, far from it, its early days but I think you can already see a small revival in the Catholic Church here.

 

[Mods vs Roc_ers]

Incredibly there will be yet further entries to add to this litany after this necessary process:

Priests, Brothers, and Care Workers Accused of Sexual Abuse of Minors in the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland

 

[SaintJavelin]

Was it solely confined to the Church,

Of course not.

as many would have us believe?

Fuck off. There's plenty of coverage of abuse not linked directly to the Church. See the Michael Shine coverage in recent days as one example.

Grow the fuck up.

But this all entirely misses the point.

The anger is about how the Church dealt with it all. We really expected honesty from the Church about what happened. Thats what they always asked from us, didnt they?

To me, there were really two coverups here, one worse than the other. The first was the paedophile abuse and activity, and how this had been kept quiet by the Church for decades. That was shocking when it began to be revealed.

But what was arguably worse was how the Church basically fought to suppress the details of what happened. They brought in lawyers, got PR advice, attacked the media, and dragged their feet on releasing any information. It took several years and several government enquiries to establish what happened. The Church fought the whole process from start to finish, demonised the victims, and tried to stick the cost of victim compensation on the Irish taxpayer.

And in doing that, they behaved like a government caught in a scandal, an oil company whose tanker has run around, etc: bring in lawyers, get PR advice, attack the media, dismiss the victims, drag your feet on releasing any information, get someone else to pay up.

That has really fucking sickened people because the Church had a special place in Ireland because people had respect for it that far exceeded our other institutions. The Church set itself apart and we trusted it because we were told to. And with that trust, the Church had extraordinary power in peoples lives, education and health care, with no one looking over the Church's shoulder for decades.

So the scandals, or more specifically how the Church behaved in response, revealed they were actually just the same as our other institutions, trying to get away with what they could, playing the victim when caught. The Church just had an outsized part in Irish life, a position they fought to protect, so the effects were devastating.

Is the anger a bit overplayed now? Maybe. When I read the recent reports on the schools I wasn't surprised. Of course they were abusing special needs kids.

 

[Professor]

If you think I'm wrong, have a look at the Catholic church thread on gaychat, and the absolute state of the ugly mob who want to lock up churches, deprive grannies of their Sunday mass and run priests out of the country.

The thing is . . . . For example, look at The Spiritans, the ones at the centre of the current Blackrock College scandals. They've been around since the 1700's and operate in 53 countries. They regularly run themselves out of Ireland for spiritual adventures abroad all over Africa and Asia etc etc
They brought Ireland into the heart of Africa and now Africa has come to Ireland to repay the favour, no?

 

[SaintJavelin]

and now Africa has come to Ireland to repay the favour, no?

You should start picketing the churches.

"Africans out!"

 

[Professor]

You should start picketing the churches.

"Africans out!"

I'm not Catholic and rarely seldom visit the churches but for old time family nostalgia and light a candle for my ancestors who believed.

You raise an interesting point though, what with Christian(Catholic) organisations actively promoting close bonds & assistance for African countries, making Ireland and the Irish as a substantial part of the solution to African problems . . . . We can wonder about the parishioners (who are reading this now too) thoughts, feeling, and wishes on the subject?

Just look at the continuous Trócaire appeals coming through the door for example - What sort of spectacle??

 

[SaintJavelin]

You raise an interesting point though, what with Christian(Catholic) organisations actively promoting close bonds & assistance for African countries, making Ireland and the Irish as a substantial part of the solution to African problems . . . . We can wonder about the parishioners (who are reading this now too) thoughts, feeling, and wishes on the subject?

Yes, we've been sending priests on missions for years....or we were.

My local church has an Indian priest. Covid give a lot of people, including my 78 year dad, an excuse to stop attending and not go back. Yes, part of it is these foreign priests. Theres no connection with them and they dont understand the community.

 

[Professor]

Yes, we've been sending priests on missions for years....or we were.

My local church has an Indian priest. Covid give a lot of people, including my 78 year dad, an excuse to stop attending and not go back. Yes, part of it is these foreign priests. Theres no connection with them and they dont understand the community.

It appears that the IRCC is actually part of the OWO (Old World Order) The Catholic Church was The Holy Roman Empire and used to rule the World with Bases dominating in every country. (anyone of the faith care to comment??)

Nowadays the world power is shifting toward the NWO so it's curious to see the changes occurring as events unfold, Once we were beholden to Rome now it's Davos (and The Pact) and apparently Rome is attempting to bend a knee accordingly.

Lots of Planting (all over) going on . . .

 

[Frank_]

No doubt the church has a lot to answer for. But the coverage of this; the faux indignation from gobshites like Norma fucking Foley and Simon Harris; the disturbing mob like rush to attack pleasant grannies at mass is all a bit much.

As is the tarring of all priests as paedophiles. The fact is that the vast majority of priests had nothing to do with child abuse or cover ups. Most are to this day doing good work in the community.

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But this country in particular specialises in misery porn and pointing the finger. There's no serious reflection; just herd minded groupthink.

As I said earlier, most of the ugly mob currently venting about Ireland's dark past (that they didn't live through and know nothing about) couldn't care less about child abuse. They only care that it's an institution they loath. They're not interested in the fact that abuse was widespread in society at the time. Read George Orwell's essays on the treatment meted out to pupils in a English schools in the early 20th century.

And why shouldn't they defend themselves @SaintJavelin ? These are all accusations and "alleged", something you wouldn't think reading the coverage. Half of those "accused" are dead. Anyone accused of a crime is entitled to recourse to legal advice etc.

 

[SaintJavelin]

And why shouldn't they defend themselves @SaintJavelin ? These are all accusations and "alleged", something you wouldn't think reading the coverage. Half of those "accused" are dead. Anyone accused of a crime is entitled to recourse to legal advice etc.

They didnt defend themselves. That would involve producing records and documentation, and really engaging in the process.

Instead they did nothing. Nothing to stop it, and nothing to help in investigating it.

Thats my point. They did nothing, except try to kick the can down the road as far as possible until abusers and victims were dead. And everyone can fucking see that clear as day.

This is the RCC we are talking about here, not a pedo coach in a swimming club. They set the moral standards and held the population to account for decades. They held extraordinary power over peoples lives. So people are going to be fucking livid at their behaviour and arrogance.

Special needs kids?? FFS.

 

[SaintJavelin]

No doubt the church has a lot to answer for. But the coverage of this; the faux indignation from gobshites like Norma fucking Foley and Simon Harris; the disturbing mob like rush to attack pleasant grannies at mass is all a bit much.

Why do you care? All the anger and upset has no fucking real world consequences for anyone except the victims. The Orders will die in a ditch before paying a penny. The Inquiry will take ages to form, and years to run, and more victims will have died by then without proper recognition or justice.
Quite frankly, apart from the collapse in its moral standing, the RCC has got away relatively lightly over the years. Outrage is free, it doesnt affect RCC assets.

I'm sick of the media howl and goverment hand wringing as well, for a completly different reason: its theatrics. If something should be really done, send in the guards and raid every order, every diocese, cart away every single document, interview senior clergy under caution, etc.

Not this bullshit "something must be done!" wailing, lets do another Inquiry bullshit.

 

[Wolf]

No doubt the church has a lot to answer for. But the coverage of this; the faux indignation from gobshites like Norma fucking Foley and Simon Harris; the disturbing mob like rush to attack pleasant grannies at mass is all a bit much.

As is the tarring of all priests as paedophiles. The fact is that the vast majority of priests had nothing to do with child abuse or cover ups. Most are to this day doing good work in the community.

Capuchin Day Centre for Homeless People

But this country in particular specialises in misery porn and pointing the finger. There's no serious reflection; just herd minded groupthink.

As I said earlier, most of the ugly mob currently venting about Ireland's dark past (that they didn't live through and know nothing about) couldn't care less about child abuse. They only care that it's an institution they loath. They're not interested in the fact that abuse was widespread in society at the time. Read George Orwell's essays on the treatment meted out to pupils in a English schools in the early 20th century.

And why shouldn't they defend themselves @SaintJavelin ? These are all accusations and "alleged", something you wouldn't think reading the coverage. Half of those "accused" are dead. Anyone accused of a crime is entitled to recourse to legal advice etc.

I thought the Kangalese nonce would be all over this one ok.
More Twatter bullshit, is it, defending his fellow travellers?

 

[Wolf]

No doubt the church has a lot to answer for. But the coverage of this; the faux indignation from gobshites like Norma fucking Foley and Simon Harris; the disturbing mob like rush to attack pleasant grannies at mass is all a bit much.

As is the tarring of all priests as paedophiles. The fact is that the vast majority of priests had nothing to do with child abuse or cover ups. Most are to this day doing good work in the community.

Capuchin Day Centre for Homeless People

But this country in particular specialises in misery porn and pointing the finger. There's no serious reflection; just herd minded groupthink.

As I said earlier, most of the ugly mob currently venting about Ireland's dark past (that they didn't live through and know nothing about) couldn't care less about child abuse. They only care that it's an institution they loath. They're not interested in the fact that abuse was widespread in society at the time. Read George Orwell's essays on the treatment meted out to pupils in a English schools in the early 20th century.

And why shouldn't they defend themselves @SaintJavelin ? These are all accusations and "alleged", something you wouldn't think reading the coverage. Half of those "accused" are dead. Anyone accused of a crime is entitled to recourse to legal advice etc.

Pedophilia is still widespread throughout society, in fact the left are trying to normalise it by referring to degenerate pedophiles as 'Minor Attracted Persons (MAP's).
With the RCC dead in Ireland who are the usual mouthpieces going to blame now? Themselves?

 

[SaintJavelin]

Well, this might go somewhere for once...

Gardaí urge anyone abused in a school run by religious orders to contact them

The scoping inquiry revealed almost 2,400 allegations of sexual abuse of children in schools run by religious orders.

www.thejournal.ie

 

[Wolf]

There are more degenerate pedophiles on the planet today than ever.
As the RCC is pretty much dead in most of the western world they're obviously somewhere, the question is who is hiding them now?
The Degenerate Party in the USA, Labour in Britain, FFG in Ireland?

 

[Frank_]

You can see the level of intense hatred and intolerance among the ugly mob.

Take this retard as an example (I can't upload images for some reason)

The rotten edifice of the Catholic Church.

To be fair Joe Duffy is allowing sirvivors speak for themselves live on the radio And they are. He's saying that he's had legal instruction , not to name a particular order. Obviously our defenders of the Catholic churches defence of child rape love playing the hob lawyer But that's strategy...

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There really is a duty on the media and others to report on this responsibly (for example, that these are allegations, often many against one individual), lest the mob take matters into their own hands and start attacking grannies going to mass.

 

[SaintJavelin]

a duty on the media and others to report on this responsibly (for example, that these are allegations, often many against one individual), lest the mob take matters into their own hands

As opposed to right wing mobs taking matters into their own hands

But the sentiment "People have had enough" is true.

The guards need to raid the RCC.