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<blockquote data-quote="AUL LAD" data-source="post: 111607" data-attributes="member: 406"><p>there are problems defining who we are --you are resident in Boston but i would call you a 150% Irishman -- beside you are generations of American born Irish -the city of Boston is Irish --how could we exclude them as they have a love of their heritage and some are more Irish than some of my neighbors .</p><p> dont get me wrong i am not being critical --what you have raised is very important and Irish politicians are afraid to go where you have gone ,</p><p>the word native excludes them --as does the word indigenous-- we as a nation need these people to belong.</p><p>PEOPLE OF THE IRISH NATION is not perfect but it allows them to belong .</p><p> at some stage you have to address the fact that people of a different skin colour may be real Irish -and have a love of our country as good as our own --what are we to do with them and our ancient people would poke fun at them in good humor but not malicious --we were not malicious and should be for our own good health and that of our nation.</p><p> this is a difficult area as it is easy to shoot anything that moves if its a immigrant --but we have to be smarter than that --we Irish have found Irish solutions to Irish problems before and must do again .</p><p> Victor Orban is a great man he puts the people of Hungary first and they do not have our immigrant problem HOWEVER AND A BIG HOWEVER the Irish government has in a tangible way been loyal to the Irish people in an other way .</p><p> the big prize for us is to get as much money from the EU as possible and spread this wealth amongst the Irish ,</p><p> and to do this we have to be the best boy in the class -- to keep the yanks and the very jealous EU/UK off our backs.</p><p> as our economy IS FUNDED BY AND DEPENDS ON THE TAX SCAM of allowing American companies to declare their profits in Ireland and to pay taxes here on money made in America or other European countries .</p><p>this is openly resented by Trump and many others and is used as a stick to beat and threaten the Irish state by the utter disgusting pricks in the EU.</p><p>the people in the Irish government know for them the only show in town is keeping the EU and USA off our backs and let us quietly as possible rob them for as long as possible --this is also patriotism as the monies are used to give us a great lifestyle and new schools etc .</p><p> the biggest building program in kilkenny in my over half century lifetime is happening right now --all the primary schools promised for decades and all the secondary schools promised for decades are being built NOW at the same time !!.</p><p>hundreds of new houses are being built TODAY at the same time as the giant ABBOT LAB co has just built the first phase of a base and the new staff currently of 800 will be joined later by a 1000 shortly when the building is completed .</p><p>this i have to admit is Irish patriotism of a real kind and the huge wealth spent in the creation of all this is spent locally and the employment in these co is well paid .</p><p> my son at the moment is penniless and is completing his masters to teach --his class mate decided to become an electrical apprentice in glanbia and worked there when he qualified for 2 years and then went to Merck sharp and dhome in carlow --starting pay 68,000-00.</p><p> i was overjoyed when i heard and i told my son only now is your fathers job is starting to being paid and now an electrician is being paid --is it not a great day for Ireland -</p><p>-knowing when he qualifies as a teacher he will earn half that --he smiled also he is a great young man now 6ft 8""and strong as an ox but quiet and inoffensive --people relax in his co he gives off a good vibe .</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AUL LAD, post: 111607, member: 406"] there are problems defining who we are --you are resident in Boston but i would call you a 150% Irishman -- beside you are generations of American born Irish -the city of Boston is Irish --how could we exclude them as they have a love of their heritage and some are more Irish than some of my neighbors . dont get me wrong i am not being critical --what you have raised is very important and Irish politicians are afraid to go where you have gone , the word native excludes them --as does the word indigenous-- we as a nation need these people to belong. PEOPLE OF THE IRISH NATION is not perfect but it allows them to belong . at some stage you have to address the fact that people of a different skin colour may be real Irish -and have a love of our country as good as our own --what are we to do with them and our ancient people would poke fun at them in good humor but not malicious --we were not malicious and should be for our own good health and that of our nation. this is a difficult area as it is easy to shoot anything that moves if its a immigrant --but we have to be smarter than that --we Irish have found Irish solutions to Irish problems before and must do again . Victor Orban is a great man he puts the people of Hungary first and they do not have our immigrant problem HOWEVER AND A BIG HOWEVER the Irish government has in a tangible way been loyal to the Irish people in an other way . the big prize for us is to get as much money from the EU as possible and spread this wealth amongst the Irish , and to do this we have to be the best boy in the class -- to keep the yanks and the very jealous EU/UK off our backs. as our economy IS FUNDED BY AND DEPENDS ON THE TAX SCAM of allowing American companies to declare their profits in Ireland and to pay taxes here on money made in America or other European countries . this is openly resented by Trump and many others and is used as a stick to beat and threaten the Irish state by the utter disgusting pricks in the EU. the people in the Irish government know for them the only show in town is keeping the EU and USA off our backs and let us quietly as possible rob them for as long as possible --this is also patriotism as the monies are used to give us a great lifestyle and new schools etc . the biggest building program in kilkenny in my over half century lifetime is happening right now --all the primary schools promised for decades and all the secondary schools promised for decades are being built NOW at the same time !!. hundreds of new houses are being built TODAY at the same time as the giant ABBOT LAB co has just built the first phase of a base and the new staff currently of 800 will be joined later by a 1000 shortly when the building is completed . this i have to admit is Irish patriotism of a real kind and the huge wealth spent in the creation of all this is spent locally and the employment in these co is well paid . my son at the moment is penniless and is completing his masters to teach --his class mate decided to become an electrical apprentice in glanbia and worked there when he qualified for 2 years and then went to Merck sharp and dhome in carlow --starting pay 68,000-00. i was overjoyed when i heard and i told my son only now is your fathers job is starting to being paid and now an electrician is being paid --is it not a great day for Ireland - -knowing when he qualifies as a teacher he will earn half that --he smiled also he is a great young man now 6ft 8""and strong as an ox but quiet and inoffensive --people relax in his co he gives off a good vibe . [/QUOTE]
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