Were the French Elections rigged ?

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Whoa where did that come from, Salty.
And the election was indeed rigged by inherent flaw in the system, LePen won the overall popular vote by some margin. The strategic withdrawal of candidates and underhanded coalition dealings of all the other parties mean that they limp over the finish line technically - Macron 'wins', but is a lame duck.

All of the above showcases the inherent unfairness of 'democracy' once again.
If such a scenario is allowed to happen in a system repeatedly (LePen was denied last time around, too) then I call that system rigged. A dictatorship of majority.
But what are we arguing about. Elections are nothing but a sleight of hand trick by the ruling class. A similar case happened in the UK - Labour have no mandate from the people, but have been handed the illusion of power.
There is no political solution, that much is clear.
And I would appreciate cessation of ad hominems, Val, you do not know me, calling someone gutless is definitely fighting talk.
I had an American fellow email me over the weekend on another matter, however, he had a little dig of glee suggesting that he had been celebrating 'our victory' in the UK election. Quite what he meant I'm still not sure, but I pointed out the miracle of the Reform result. Not heard from him since.
 

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Jean-Luc Melenchon is actually quite close to real actual Fascism. Any Marxist from the before the 1990s would have seen him as at least Fascistic. He does not, in public at least, have ethno-nationalism yes but he makes up for that with a cult of personality that Mussolini would be envious of and Trump could only dream of at this stage. I would not see him as Far Left as such. The RN was pretty incoherent on economic issues.

Macron has made a deal with the devil.
And this is his reward.
The left detest him thoroughly.
The parliament is totally unstable unless Macron and his toads do what the left say.
 

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And the election was indeed rigged by inherent flaw in the system, LePen won the overall popular vote by some margin. The strategic withdrawal of candidates and underhanded coalition dealings of all the other parties mean that they limp over the finish line technically - Macron 'wins', but is a lame duck.

All of the above showcases the inherent unfairness of 'democracy' once again.
If such a scenario is allowed to happen in a system repeatedly (LePen was denied last time around, too) then I call that system rigged. A dictatorship of majority.
But what are we arguing about. Elections are nothing but a sleight of hand trick by the ruling class. A similar case happened in the UK - Labour have no mandate from the people, but have been handed the illusion of power.
There is no political solution, that much is clear.
great post the only thing i would add is that the second round is the flaw --it allows the parties to CONSPIRE against the expressed french vote and defeat the will of the french people .
i watched the RTE politics program last night and it was sickening how all the people present expressed the fear of the far right as if they were a form of plague and then shift gear and make mealy mouth gestures that the prudent thing would be seen to do something about the immigration issue but nod nod wink wink actually do nothing --just manage the situation .
I think they are clueless about the french and the Irish and the irish goverment said all irishmen were guilty of that tullamore teachers death by labeling the crime by an known violent dangerous illegal immigrant as domestic abuse --this sickened me as she had never met him it was a random murder on the bank of a canal.
The sickening opportunist stating that domestic abuse legislation needed toughening was the further control of our population which had nothing to do with the murder and nobody in the dail said that --we irish were defencless we had nobody on OUR side .
no TD spoke for the family either and said she had no relationship with her murderer and when her sister and boyfriend wished to read their court impact statement which is normally broadcast they were denied and censored/ silenced by rte as it correctly put the blame for the murder on the state who had a deportation order but would not serve it.
i will rembember Ashling Murphy by deed or action or word i will make a difference where ever i can.
 
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i watched the RTE politics program last night and it was sickening how all the people present expressed the fear of the far right as if they were a form of plague
It's much worse than that. When the media use the term "far right" what they are really doing is invoking the holocaust. They don't even need to state that explicitly because people will make the connection themselves, consciously or subconsciously. When they say far right, they want people to be scared and guilty about gas chambers.

Far right = Hitler = gas chambers. Anti-immigration = far right = gas chambers. Identifying with and being proud of your own race/ethnicity (if you're white) = far right = gas chambers. Far right gets elected = another holocaust. Etc.
 

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It's much worse than that. When the media use the term "far right" what they are really doing is invoking the holocaust. They don't even need to state that explicitly because people will make the connection themselves, consciously or subconsciously. When they say far right, they want people to be scared and guilty about gas chambers.

Far right = Hitler = gas chambers. Anti-immigration = far right = gas chambers. Identifying with and being proud of your own race/ethnicity (if you're white) = far right = gas chambers. Far right gets elected = another holocaust. Etc.
Far right to me conjures up an image of football violence and nutty Thatcherites, I wouldn't say there is an immediate connection to gas chambers for everyone.
 

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Far right to me conjures up an image of football violence and nutty Thatcherites, I wouldn't say there is an immediate connection to gas chambers for everyone.
The skinhead hooligans from the 80s are being invoked too, but they were "Neo-Nazis" so it leads to the same thing.

People may not consciously make the connection to gas chambers, but I believe that it also happens subconsciously, like Pavlov's dog. WWII/holocaust propaganda, mostly via decades of Hollywood movies, has programmed into people the equation that far right = gas chambers.

It's a slippery slope fallacy trap that people fall into. The gas chambers were the end result of a past far right, so in their minds anything far right now will ultimately lead to the gas chambers again. We can see this in the way libtards mention Hitler and "1930s Germany" whenever the far right is mentioned. They cannot help themselves because their subconscious minds have been literally programmed to think this way.
 

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The skinhead hooligans from the 80s are being invoked too, but they were "Neo-Nazis" so it leads to the same thing.

People may not consciously make the connection to gas chambers, but I believe that it also happens subconsciously, like Pavlov's dog. WWII/holocaust propaganda, mostly via decades of Hollywood movies, has programmed into people the equation that far right = gas chambers.

It's a slippery slope fallacy trap that people fall into. The gas chambers were the end result of a past far right, so in their minds anything far right now will ultimately lead to the gas chambers again. We can see this in the way libtards mention Hitler and "1930s Germany" whenever the far right is mentioned. They cannot help themselves because their subconscious minds have been literally programmed to think this way.
the holocaust Hitler Gobbles Auchwitz ect ect ect are the barbed wire around Germany and its economy DO NOT GO THERE IT IS VERBOTEN .
if you do go there you find Paul Warburg Jewish banker and inventor of the federal reserve which is private and not federal and which owns America.
Paul Warburg headed up the USA team for the armistice with Germany -
--WHO UNBELIEVABLY HEADED UP THE GERMAN TEAM none other than his brother Max Warburg hamburg Jewish banker and head of German military intelligence .
this is not known generally nor is the war declared on 27th march 1933 the worlds newspapers stated JUDEA AT WAR WITH GERMANY .
what is verboten is the Germans/Hitler/Gottfreid Feder who had all their gold confiscated and still held by the warburgs could not back its currency with any precious metal and was seen deliberately as confetti in order that the Jews of Judea could buy Germany for cents during the deliberately constructed Wiemar republic which Hitler ended and he brought out a new German currency and told the Jews who owned the old to f off with their weimar system of robbery .
germanys banking was made Jew free and as a result it took the combined resources of the planet to defeat the Germans .
this economic miracle which made Germany the richest country on earth briefly prior to the WW2 is not to be studied or discussed or read about as it might let people know they could get quite wealthy if they took control of their own banks and ended usury.
they would become wealthy as they would have got rid of the parasites which rob us all.
hence the barbed wire around the only country to do this in modern times --gadaffy nearly did it and look what happened the country which had the highest GDP in Africa
 

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@AUL LAD,

thanks for that nugget of insight, forbidden knowledge. I have shared this with an apathetic friend in the hope that the scales will fall from his eyes.
 

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This is a nationalist forum. The powers that be would call it far right, but is there anybody here who identifies as far right?
 

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France is a divided nation. The forever grieved foreigner will never allow France to be a sane or peaceful nation again:


View: https://x.com/ryangerritsen/status/1810070965864526180

France is different to Ireland.
France has ages old empires abroad . . . and makes new wars abroad . . . Hence their foreign populations pluus refugees extra.

If France, Britain and their Masters were peaceful nations minding their own business then Ireland would not have the problems you see growing here today, OK?
 

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France is different to Ireland.
France has ages old empires abroad . . . and makes new wars abroad . . . Hence their foreign populations pluus refugees extra.

If France, Britain and their Masters were peaceful nations minding their own business then Ireland would not have the problems you see growing here today, OK?
None of this changes the reality of what happens to a nation when foreigners are allowed in en masse. Empire or no, these countries could have denied access to their conquered peoples into the motherland.
 

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This is a nationalist forum. The powers that be would call it far right, but is there anybody here who identifies as far right?
what a great question and to answer it i ask you to consider the daft bullshit associated with describing Farage as FAR RIGHT ,
who has taken Hitlers/gottfreif feders idea of economics and in the past week before the election he forwarded his costings and the journalists went ape as they smelled blood --the funding for Farages plan to revitalize England seemed to contain an element of black magic -- a source of money unseen by every chancellor of the exchequer since 1900 but plainly visible to Farage .
AS SOON AS HE SAID IT THE SHUTTERS WENT UP --NO MORE INTERVIEWS WITH FARAGE .
he said there is a criminal enterprise at the center of our economy -- we who are sovereign must purchase our own money from the bank of England at interest ---so people of Britain who is sovereign here is it the bank of England ? and i think it is or will we now become sovereign and issue our own money interest free to ourselves as WE OWN THE FUCKING MONEY AND THIS FUCKING COUNTRY we don't rent it from the bank of England who ever the fuck they are .
it would create billions as we are paying interest when we should not.
this is not far right it is far left and it is the transfer of wealth to the people ..
i support farage in this and i have waited years for somebody to say out loud what i have discussed here for years -- watch the silence --nobody will discuss this nobody --billions are involved but nobody will dare mention it .
 

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what a great question and to answer it i ask you to consider the daft bullshit associated with describing Farage as FAR RIGHT ,
who has taken Hitlers/gottfreif feders idea of economics and in the past week before the election he forwarded his costings and the journalists went ape as they smelled blood --the funding for Farages plan to revitalize England seemed to contain an element of black magic -- a source of money unseen by every chancellor of the exchequer since 1900 but plainly visible to Farage .
AS SOON AS HE SAID IT THE SHUTTERS WENT UP --NO MORE INTERVIEWS WITH FARAGE .
he said there is a criminal enterprise at the center of our economy -- we who are sovereign must purchase our own money from the bank of England at interest ---so people of Britain who is sovereign here is it the bank of England ? and i think it is or will we now become sovereign and issue our own money interest free to ourselves as WE OWN THE FUCKING MONEY AND THIS FUCKING COUNTRY we don't rent it from the bank of England who ever the fuck they are .
it would create billions as we are paying interest when we should not.
this is not far right it is far left and it is the transfer of wealth to the people ..
i support farage in this and i have waited years for somebody to say out loud what i have discussed here for years -- watch the silence --nobody will discuss this nobody --billions are involved but nobody will dare mention it .
The criminal enterprise he mentions is at the heart of every nation apart from Iran I believe. A small tiny parasite that will suck humanity dry and rule over the ashes. He doesn't mention them, though.
 

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what a great question and to answer it i ask you to consider the daft bullshit associated with describing Farage as FAR RIGHT ,
who has taken Hitlers/gottfreif feders idea of economics and in the past week before the election he forwarded his costings and the journalists went ape as they smelled blood --the funding for Farages plan to revitalize England seemed to contain an element of black magic -- a source of money unseen by every chancellor of the exchequer since 1900 but plainly visible to Farage .
AS SOON AS HE SAID IT THE SHUTTERS WENT UP --NO MORE INTERVIEWS WITH FARAGE .
he said there is a criminal enterprise at the center of our economy -- we who are sovereign must purchase our own money from the bank of England at interest ---so people of Britain who is sovereign here is it the bank of England ? and i think it is or will we now become sovereign and issue our own money interest free to ourselves as WE OWN THE FUCKING MONEY AND THIS FUCKING COUNTRY we don't rent it from the bank of England who ever the fuck they are .
it would create billions as we are paying interest when we should not.
this is not far right it is far left and it is the transfer of wealth to the people ..
i support farage in this and i have waited years for somebody to say out loud what i have discussed here for years -- watch the silence --nobody will discuss this nobody --billions are involved but nobody will dare mention it .
Slimeball politicians understand that if they do what they're told and don't try to rock the usury boat they'll be well compensated, with money, and very lucrative jobs in the various financial institutions when they leave office.

Of course any who try rocking that boat are dealt with accordingly!

Good luck to Farage, but it's only a revolution that might break the stranglehold!
 

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