Ukraine.

[Coal Gas and peat]

They are having a pageant in Kiev today to celebrate two years of war......Ursula von EU is attending

 

[jpc]

Hitler ~ Had Only One Ball !

Would the good doctor care to opine on Joe Biden's state of health?

 

[jpc]

This is the reason for the carnage now.

US Sees Ukraine As "Active & Bountiful Military Research Opportunity"; WaPo Reports | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

 

[PlunkettsGhost]

This is the reason for the carnage now.

US Sees Ukraine As "Active & Bountiful Military Research Opportunity"; WaPo Reports | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

Yep, the US air force has already accepted the fact that manned flights are going the way of the dodo and will be acting accordingly

New in 2024: Air Force plans autonomous flight tests for drone wingmen

The Air Force is laying the groundwork for a vast fleet of more than 1,000 autonomous drones that will fly alongside piloted fighters.

www.defensenews.com

 

[Declan]

Tanks, planes and ships are obsolete going forward.

 

[PlunkettsGhost]

Tanks, planes and ships are obsolete going forward.

and infantry, outside of clean-up operations

 

[Mad as Fish]

Tanks, planes and ships are obsolete going forward.

I'm not so sure. The history of warfare is one of continually developing new methods of attack and countermeasures to guard against them. Although drones were used from day one their impact was not fully appreciated for the first year or so. Now that they are taken as a real threat countermeasures will be invented and deployed at some point in the near future.

 

[Declan]

The traditional soldier will be a rare animal.

Who in their right mind would join say the British army. Getting killed for minimum pay.
They hardly think that Britain actually existed as before when London is nearly all non British.

A few casualties and it would crumble.

 

[Mad as Fish]

Russia declares victory in the great 'spring' offensive and notes that it is only one battle in the war against the west. Here's a taster -

The enemy sequentially committed the most combat-efficient and trained units to battle, hoping to achieve at least a limited operational result. However, it failed to reach even the forward edge of the basic tactical defensive line of Russian troops. Over this period, the enemy lost 12,575 personnel, 12 aircraft, 4 helicopters, 810 tanks and other armored vehicles, 167 field artillery guns, 13 multiple launch rocket systems and 227 UAVs. The armor destroyed by the Russian troops included 15 German Leopard 2A6 tanks, 5 French AMX wheeled tanks and 7 Bradley infantry fighting vehicles. If we compare the losses with the initial strength of the Ukrainian army’s grouping, we can see that personnel casualties were not so large: less than 10% whereas armor and artillery losses turned out to be considerable and amounted to about 40% and 20%, respectively.

https://tass.com/defense/1750919

 

[Declan]

There is no talk of abram tanks anymore after those german ones getting destroyed.

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

That's not inconsequential for a lot of ordinary English folk.

They're already freaking out

CHEAP AS CHIPS! Hundreds of people queue for hours to buy fish and chip meal for 75p instead of £5.70​

Hundreds of people queued for hours in the rain to snap up a portion of 'Britain's cheapest' fish and chips.

Portions were limited to one per customer but that didn't put punters off as hundreds flocked to the shop despite miserable weather conditions.

CHEAP AS CHIPS! Hundreds of people queue for hours to buy fish and chip meal for 75p instead of £5.70

Hundreds of people queued for hours in the rain to snap up a portion of 'Britain's cheapest' fish and chips - for just 75p. Dr Vinegars Extraordinary Fish & Chips offered the mega cut-price deal after it recently opened its doors to customers in Wolverhampton. Massive queues of eager punters...

uk.yahoo.com

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

The enemy lost 12 aircraft, 4 helicopters.

Wouldn't helicopters come under aircraft Sir?

 

[valamhic]

I hear Finland is bucked. They are not getting any Russian electricity or kiln dried wood fuel. The country is on strike. All the social goodies Mowl used to brag about are gone. The communal heating schemes are struggling. America will screw them for anything to give them. I predict he will land back to Ballyfermott hoping to get his arshe in somewhere.

 

[valamhic]

They're already freaking out

CHEAP AS CHIPS! Hundreds of people queue for hours to buy fish and chip meal for 75p instead of £5.70​

Hundreds of people queued for hours in the rain to snap up a portion of 'Britain's cheapest' fish and chips.

Portions were limited to one per customer but that didn't put punters off as hundreds flocked to the shop despite miserable weather conditions.

CHEAP AS CHIPS! Hundreds of people queue for hours to buy fish and chip meal for 75p instead of £5.70

Hundreds of people queued for hours in the rain to snap up a portion of 'Britain's cheapest' fish and chips - for just 75p. Dr Vinegars Extraordinary Fish & Chips offered the mega cut-price deal after it recently opened its doors to customers in Wolverhampton. Massive queues of eager punters...

uk.yahoo.com

So do you believe the cod is actually cod? My bet is it is dog fish.

 

[valamhic]

Victoria Nuland's is a busted flush. Her days of running round overthrowing native governments is over.

She was a vicious filthy rascal and is no loss

 

[Mad as Fish]

Wouldn't helicopters come under aircraft Sir?

I think it's one of those occasions when the text could have been more precise, but the general intent is clear. 12 fixed wing planes and 4 helicopters would be the meaning that I took away from it.

The article in its entirety is well worth a read, even one bite at a time for it clearly sets out Russia's position on the war and how it sees events unfolding.

Basically it tells us that Russia kicked NATO's arse, most of the troops used in the spring offensive were NATO trained and used NATO kit and Ukraine achieved nothing other than a humongous slaughter of its own men, a huge wake up call for NATO.

It also made clear that Russia is looking east and to the BRICS economic axis with a further 27 non western aligned countries eager to join.

The subtext is that the west is fecked and reduced to an ongoing series of proxy wars (hybrid wars is the term used) with Russia because it hasn't the capabilities to do anything else.

There is not a lot you can argue with TBH.

 

[AUL LAD]

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So do you believe the cod is actually cod? My bet is it is dog fish.

to disguise it they call it rock fish or rock cod -- the English have no taste buds --
have you ever tried their nirvana -----jellied eels and mushy peas and chips.
when in France and now with the chance to learn and to taste dishes they ask for only one thing and they have christened themselves and are now known by all french people as "" roast bouef s"".
the Irish eat as a co op and order as many items off the menu as they can and have their own private and very sociable tasting session ,
completely foreign experience for the English.

 

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