Tuam excavation begins

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Tuam 16 June 2025 edited.jpg

Scene in Tuam this morning.


So a much anticipated date is finally upon us, this morning they are closing off the recognised graveyard of the Tuam Children’s Home and sending in earth moving equipment to dig up the whole area. This site is, as I say, the well known graveyard of that Home that closed in 1961, so of course they will find remains of children there.

The above video might be able to clarify matters and hopefully I can post updates here. This event has generated even some international news coverage as well as much national publicity. Incidentally some small roads around the site have been cut off, its thought because of some major accident late last night.

As this hoax has played out in the national media over the last decade (it started in early 2014) we seem to have arrived at an acceptance that the nuns did not physically or sexually harm any of these children. But two claims are still circulated about this Home. One is the whole question of whether or not the area was a septic tank and that is covered already in articles like this one which I recommend people might like to see: http://www.indymedia.ie/article/108088 .

Secondly it is claimed that the nominal rate of death was higher in the Home than the national rate, and hence proves some kind of negligence on the part of the nuns etc. But this statistical question is very complex and it is easy to see, when one considers it, why that rate would be higher, e.g.:

– For a lot of the early decades of this period, from the 20s to the 60s (the Home death rate was below the national average in the last 10 years or so of its existence), there was patchy reporting of deaths to the national registers across Ireland. This meant that the national rate was underestimated, while all deaths in the Home were properly and promptly registered. So comparing the Home rate with the national rate creates a distortion for those years, because the national rate isn’t accurate.

– The Home death rate is been calculated on an institution with a lot of transient coming and going, and with a strong bias in favour of leaving ill people in the Home. This might not be clear to people, but is in fact very important because it can lead to huge statistical anomalies. How the death rate is been calculated is like this: Say you have x large house in the country, housing 100 people and 50 people die in 1936 or whatever, so you have a death rate in that year of 50%, fair enough.
Now consider if you had a transient type of house, with people coming and going in that house, maybe 400 people have passed through the house in that year (even though at any given time there is only 100 living there), of whom that 50 people had died. Now if it is the case that of those that pass through, the ill people will stay and then, unfortunately, some die in the house, then should your figure for the death rate not be calculated on that 400? So you should actually calculate the rate as having 50 people die out of 400, a death rate of 12.5%?
That is what is happening with the statistics on the Home, they are calculating like the former example, as if the population was static, but it wasn’t, and there was a strong bias in favour of keeping ill children in the Home. Consider who is passing through for a minute:
a) Mothers who are taking their children out at the end of a year (about half did this), they will probably leave very ill children there to be looked after by the nuns, and nurse and doctor assigned to the Home, because they would hardly be in a position to provide better medical care to a seriously ill child?
b) They certainly will not foster out or send a child out for an adoption if they are ill, they will also be kept in the Home, while many healthy children will leave this way.
c) It was presumed earlier, but explicitly confirmed in the Commission report, that actually many fostered out children were sent back to the Home, maybe years later, if they got seriously ill. This is very important because it begs the question that the death rate ought to be calculated on all of those children already fostered out in the local community, but if so the calculation of the death rate in the Home would fall dramatically.

– Not just Tuam, but apparently all of these Children’s Home, like on the Navan Road in Dublin, cared for chronically ill children as well as the well known illegitimate ones. This was again explicitly brought out in the Commission report. If you were born with serious physical illness, although not an acute illness, in the West of Ireland in those years, the chances are they will send you to this Home. So of course you have a higher death rate among children with serious chronic illnesses, who are brought into the Home especially because they are ill.

Anyway hopefully this hoax is fraying at the edges in modern times.

by Brian Nugent, http://www.orwellianireland.com
 
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Any mention of all of the Children / People that died of Tuberculosis ? !

Impact on Children and Young People:

  • TB was often called the "robber of youth" because it had a higher death rate among young people.
 

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Well there are not too many references to TB, but you had a lot of other diseases mentioned. Diptheria, measles, whooping cough, and remember a lot of the children in the Home were Down Syndrome, and they often have heart and other problems.
 

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Well there are not too many references to TB, but you had a lot of other diseases mentioned. Diptheria, measles, whooping cough, and remember a lot of the children in the Home were Down Syndrome, and they often have heart and other problems.
Good points ~ ~ I doubt that we will be getting, the full truthful story from the Irish Main Stream Media !
 

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As it goes ~ ~ My Mother ( told us ) and Aunt ( Aunt still alive ) tell us about ~ ~ They used to go and stay ( summer holidays / that kind of thing ) with relatives ( cousins ) probably to give a break to their own mother ~ ~ There was a boy in that family that had TB ~ ~ They both said he was a lovely boy (maybe even a teenager ) but they could Not go near him because he had TB ~ ~ He died very young :cry: :cry: :cry:

My Aunt is still alive ( probably about 88 now, I am not great with, ages, birthdays , anniversaries, that kind of thing ) ~ ~ Just think that, this is in living memory through my Aunt !

The whole thing was tragic.

My mother was a nurse in, Merlin Park Hospital Galway (1950's / me doing the maths ) and she told me that TB could wipe out Whole Families in those days ~ ~ I think this did affect her some-what mentally !
 

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The scene this morning at the site: (many thanks to the videographer Michael McDonnell):
 
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And this is completely out of step with the, thinking / beliefs, of the British people ~ ~ I saw some-where that at least 80% ( could have been even higher than that ) of the British people are against this, and yet these " " Elite " " MP's decide that they know best ! ! !

How are Countries ending up with representatives in their parliaments that hold extremely different views, than the ordinary people of their Countries = = And this is NOT happening by accident either !
 

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My mother was a nurse in, Merlin Park Hospital Galway (1950's / me doing the maths ) and she told me that TB could wipe out Whole Families in those days ~ ~ I think this did affect her some-what mentally !
My mother said there was a lad up the road when she was young that had TB and they put him in a wee hut up the field.

They'd leave his dinner outside and give him turf for a bit of a fire but they couldn't go near him.

Them badgers had a lot to answer for.
 

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My mother said there was a lad up the road when she was young that had TB and they put him in a wee hut up the field.

They'd leave his dinner outside and give him turf for a bit of a fire but they couldn't go near him.

Them badgers had a lot to answer for.
Irish people have gone through a lot in our history ~ ~ Too much for Traitor Politicians to sell the Irish People and Ireland out for !
 

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I have heard they are now going to start digging up peoples back gardens because they beleive there are underground catacombs that spread out underground that could have more bodies, and not just babies!
 

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"Oh the French are on the sea," says Scolaire Bhocht

"The French are on the sea," says the Scolaire Bhocht

"Oh The French are in the Bay, they'll be here without delay, And the Orange will decay," says the Scolaire Bhocht.

"And their camp it will be where?" says the Scolaire Bhocht,

"Their camp it will be where?" says the Scolaire Bhocht.

"On the Curragh of Kildare and the boys will all be there "With their pikes in good repair." says the Scolaire Bhocht .
 

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This mighn't seem like much, because it still goes alongwith most of this hoax, but at least its a balanced account, the first time as far as I know, in any national Irish newspaper. Its the current issue of the Irish Catholic, page 2:
Irish Catholic 19 June 2025, page 2.png
 

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I would probably be in favour of abortion for unwanted immigrants but not for Europeans. I don't know how you would organize that, though.
 

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I would probably be in favour of abortion for unwanted immigrants but not for Europeans. I don't know how you would organize that, though.
Its a good point Sir. These fanatical anti-abortionists are hypocrites.

I put it to Tagdh Gaelach (and I put it to Bocht now) if his 14 year old daughter was walking home from a friend's house on a dark winter's evening and she was dragged into the bushes by a hard-hittin', pipe-fittin' N!gger and ridden senseless would he force his wee girl to bring the resulting child to term?
 
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Its a good point Sir. These fanatical anti-abortionists are hypocrites.

I put it to Tagdh Gaelach (and I put it to Bocht now) if his 14 year old daughter was walking home from a friend's house on a dark winter's evening and she was dragged into the bushes by a hard-hittin', pipe-fittin' N!gger and ridden senseless would he force his wee girl to bring the resulting child to term?
I'd say Tadhg rather sensibly didn't answer your question because it's the kind of question only a retard would think is in anyway relevant to the debate. 99.9999 per cent of abortions have nothing to do with rape, and are merely mothers killing their unwanted child. In England, many abortions are by mothers who have had abortions previously.

It's become a form of contraception.

The rape elephant trap is exactly that - an elephant trap that pro-infanticide demons* set to try to trip up their opponents, muddying the waters and shifting the focus of the debate away from the 99.999 per cent of healthy babies killed for convenience.

Cop on, Myles. You're not that thick.

*I don't use this word lightly. Despite being non-religious, when I saw the faces of the so-called "pro-choice" activists on their march through Dublin city, it was the first word that came to mind. They looked positively demonic, all of them.
 

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Its really not. I'm anti abortion. However someone would have to be decidedly thick not to realise there are exceptional circumstances.
 

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I'd say Tadhg rather sensibly didn't answer your question because it's the kind of question only a retard would think is in anyway relevant to the debate. 99.9999 per cent of abortions have nothing to do with rape, and are merely mothers killing their unwanted child. In England, many abortions are by mothers who have had abortions previously.

It's become a form of contraception.

The rape elephant trap is exactly that - an elephant trap that pro-infanticide demons* set to try to trip up their opponents, muddying the waters and shifting the focus of the debate away from the 99.999 per cent of healthy babies killed for convenience.

Cop on, Myles. You're not that thick.

*I don't use this word lightly.
Despite being non-religious,
So why are you constantly posting shite @ me any time (you think) the discussion is about atheism?

when I saw the faces of the so-called "pro-choice" activists on their march through Dublin city, it was the first word that came to mind. They looked positively demonic, all of them.
 

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No, abortion is murder, I am not in favour of murder.

Here is a question for you, because of the difficult circumstances you mention, if you had a chance to kill the child as a one year old infant, would you take it? It is after all pretty much the exact same circumstances, only the body is outside the host mother's body, which is not that big a difference. In practice its clear that widespread abortion inevitably slides into at least a little infanticide in modern times, so its a perfectly legitimate question.
 

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Its not the exact same circumstances you nutter.

If your 14 year old was inconsolable and wanted the horror to end, instead you'd force her to bear her N!gger rapist's child???

You are one sick individual Bocht.
 

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Ok well why do you think those circumstances would change after the child is born, if he/she is born? The same bad atmosphere? So are you going to "make it all go away" and kill the child?
 

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I wouldn't let the child grow in the womb in the first place. I'd have it terminated as soon as my daughter was in pieces.

What the fu*k is the matter with you???
 

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is there any reason to suspect other homes could hide the same horrors?
 

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is there any reason to suspect other homes could hide the same horrors?
I don't know if Bocht has a young daughter or indeed any children. This scenario is hypothetical although it does indeed sound horrific.
 

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This Home did not 'hide' any horror of any type, so probably the rest didn't either.
 

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10 days of digging with excavators and nothing in the headlines yet? Credit to those oul nuns, when they did a job, they did it right
 

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Its projected to take 2 years so I don't think we should expect news soon? Although of course I don't know how it will develop. They are digging up obviously the graveyard of the Childrens Home, so of course they will find corpses.
 

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