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US Democracy Isn’t Real​

Isn’t it remarkable how, dating back to 1914 at the very latest, Americans keep voting for peace and yet somehow find themselves repeatedly enmeshed in funding and fighting foreign wars?
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COL Macgregor: Americans have to come to the realization that this dichotomy, Democrats and Republicans, is meaningless. We’re really dealing with a uni-party. We’re dealing with an entirely corrupted, dysfunctional system. This thing that we call democracy in the United States is a scam, it’s not real, it’s just not real.
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US Democracy Isn't Real - Vox Popoli

Isn’t it remarkable how, dating back to 1914 at the very latest, Americans keep voting for peace and yet somehow find themselves repeatedly enmeshed in funding and fighting foreign wars? Rachel Blevins: The American people, we keep voting for the guy who is telling us “hey no new wars, we’re...
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PlunkettsGhost said:

US Democracy Isn't Real - Vox Popoli

Isn’t it remarkable how, dating back to 1914 at the very latest, Americans keep voting for peace and yet somehow find themselves repeatedly enmeshed in funding and fighting foreign wars? Rachel Blevins: The American people, we keep voting for the guy who is telling us “hey no new wars, we’re...
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It is debatable how real democracy is in any mass society.

I guess though some have stronger elements of democracy than others.

Also political forms I think are means to an end, namely the common good, and not ends in themselves. That goes for both "parliamentary democracy" and Monarchy.
 
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SwordOfStZip said:
It is debatable how real democracy is in any mass society.
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I've long considered it a scam, and Aristotle pointed out how it can only work in a homogenous culture.

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PlunkettsGhost said:
I've long considered it a scam, and Aristotle pointed out how it can only work in a homogenous culture.

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There is an idea that democracy as such is bad because it encourages any old moron to believe that they have a right to opinions on matters without doing any thinking upon or research into them hence swelling their egos. It is hard to deny that there is a lot of truth in this but I still think there has to be some mechanism for people to be able to hold those in authority accountable.
 
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SwordOfStZip said:
There is an idea that democracy as such is bad because it encourages any old moron to believe that they have a right to opinions on matters without doing any thinking upon or research into them hence swelling their egos. It is hard to deny that there is a lot of truth in this but I still think there has to be some mechanism for people to be able to hold those in authority accountable.
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No, it goes way beyond just holding authority accountable.

Democracy is all about deciding upon how society should be ordered, it should express the will of the majority, not just install another set of middle managers.
 
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SwordOfStZip said:
There is an idea that democracy as such is bad because it encourages any old moron to believe that they have a right to opinions on matters without doing any thinking upon or research into them hence swelling their egos. It is hard to deny that there is a lot of truth in this but I still think there has to be some mechanism for people to be able to hold those in authority accountable.
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How about = = Rope ? !
 
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Mad as Fish said:
No, it goes way beyond just holding authority accountable.

Democracy is all about deciding upon how society should be ordered, it should express the will of the majority, not just install another set of middle managers.
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In the last week two things have passed ( on their way to becoming law ) in the UK ~ ~ One being abortion up until birth ~ I doubt 10% and maybe even as low as 5% of the British Public Support this = = How can this happen in a " " Supposed Democracy " "

An Elite that have Not told the public at election time what they intend to do.

The second one ( assisted dying ) might have 20% for ( maybe ) and 80% against ~ ~ And if that 20% really understood the " Slippery Slope " that has happened anywhere ~ Assisted Dying / Euthanasia / Murder, has been brought in, would they really back " " Assisted Dying " "

" " All Knowing Elites " " are getting themselves elected because the media is in no way holding them to account i.e. Finding out what their true plans are.

Of course this is going on in Ireland as well ~ ~ Elites deciding that they know best after getting the " Inconvenience " " of elections out of the way ! ! !
 
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clarke-connolly said:
In the last week two things have passed ( on their way to becoming law ) in the UK ~ ~ One being abortion up until birth ~ I doubt 10% and maybe even as low as 5% of the British Public Support this = = How can this happen in a " " Supposed Democracy " "

An Elite that have Not told the public at election time what they intend to do.

The second one ( assisted dying ) might have 20% for ( maybe ) and 80% against ~ ~ And if that 20% really understood the " Slippery Slope " that has happened anywhere ~ Assisted Dying / Euthanasia / Murder, has been brought in, would they really back " " Assisted Dying " "

" " All Knowing Elites " " are getting themselves elected because the media is in no way holding them to account i.e. Finding out what their true plans are.

Of course this is going on in Ireland as well ~ ~ Elites deciding that they know best after getting the " Inconvenience " " of elections out of the way ! ! !
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Turn them gay, turn them trans, provide free abortion, provide free euthanasia, keep fear mongering the youth and scare them into not having children, invent fake pandemics then mandate a 'vaccine' that's been proven to kill....
See what's happening? Depopulation 101.
 
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Well on matters that he believes are important to his career in Washington I am pretty sure that Ted Cruz is thoughtful and does his research otherwise it is unlikely that he would have gotten as far in it as he has. That does not mean though that he cares about the effects his actions have outside of that.
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I remember Ted Cruz putting the Boot In to the Jan-6th " " Rioters " " when he thought that was good for him or more likely when the American Deep-State / Dark-State told him to do so.

So = = Basically, Ted Cruz is owned by the American Deep-State / Dark-State as they all are ! ! !
 
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How it started.

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Trump: 'our power will stop all wars'

While raising the specter of American expansionism, the newly inaugurated president nevertheless says he wants to be 'a peacemaker and a unifier'
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How its going.

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Alarm as White House Says Trump Has Not Ruled Out Dropping Nuclear Weapon on Iran | Common Dreams

An expert at the Federation of American Scientists warned that "radioactive fallout would be intense" if the U.S. deployed a penetrator nuke.
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Mad as Fish said:
No, it goes way beyond just holding authority accountable.

Democracy is all about deciding upon how society should be ordered, it should express the will of the majority, not just install another set of middle managers.
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Politics (democracy) has replaced culture as the chief organizing principle of societies. This has been an unmitigated disaster. Culture is perennial, and lends stability. Politics is chaos, and easily manipulated to favor the advancement of the few over the many. Positive actions of one administration can be undone by the stroke of pen by the following administration. It is designed to be this hectic imo, as this creates the never ending need for more and more politics. The purpose of a bureaucracy (which is what politics really is), is to preserve itself and expand it's areas of control.
A shared culture creates the backdrop for all social activity, and acts as a brake on anything that tries to step out of the milieu.
 
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The question I asked Grok ? ( X's / Elon Musks AI ) What did Wesley Clark say about 7 wars ?


General Wesley Clark, a retired four-star general of the United States Army and former NATO Supreme Allied Commander Europe, became widely known for a statement he made in a 2007 speech, often referred to as the "7 countries in 5 years" remark.




In that speech, Clark described a conversation he had at the Pentagon shortly after the 9/11 attacks in 2001. He stated that a senior military officer showed him a memo from the Office of the Secretary of Defense that outlined a plan to "attack and destroy the governments in 7 countries in five years."




The countries he listed, in the order he recalled them, were:

  1. Iraq
  2. Syria
  3. Lebanon
  4. Libya
  5. Somalia
  6. Sudan
  7. Iran
Clark expressed his shock and concern about this perceived plan, stating that the intention was to "destabilize the Middle East, turn it upside down, make it under our control." He also recounted an earlier conversation from 1991 with Paul Wolfowitz (then a high-ranking Pentagon official) where Wolfowitz expressed a desire to "clean up those old Soviet regimes" like Syria, Iran, and Iraq, suggesting a long-standing desire for regime change in the region.




Clark's remarks were controversial and garnered significant attention, particularly from those critical of U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East. While some dismissed his claims, others pointed to subsequent U.S. actions in the region (such as the invasions of Iraq and Libya, and ongoing conflicts or interventions in Syria, Somalia, and Sudan) as evidence supporting his statement about a broader strategic agenda.
 
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Trump's niece Mary reckons Donald attacked Iran because people called him "TACO"


"It is long past time that we stop imputing some deeper or reasonable motives to Donald Trump. Despite being depraved and cruel, much like his cohort Benjamin Netanyahu, he is driven by the most primitive impulses that center almost solely around protecting his fragile ego from humiliation (about which he has a pathological terror) and himself from the reality that he is a complete fraud.

Donald is still no doubt stinging from the acronym recently coined to mock his inability to follow through on anything—TACO: Trump Always Chickens Out. In the wake of Israeli strikes against Iran, Donald spent a few days saber-rattling only to back off (chicken out, if you will) in the wake of searing criticism by some of the most reliably sycophantic members of his cult—e.g. Rep. Marjorie Green (R-GA), Alex Jones, and Steve Bannon. He announced at a bizarre press conference that his decision to address the ostensibly urgent crisis regarding Iran would be put off for two weeks.

Only two days later, he ordered the attack on Iran. His allies would have us believe that Donald, a brilliant strategist, was faking us out. Sure. An infinitely more plausible explanation is that, on the one hand, he hates being challenged or contradicted, especially from those who almost always fall in line; therefore, he felt the need to double-down on his threats by carrying them out. On the other hand, Donald is a desperate black hole of need—by changing the narrative, he could make sure the spotlight turned back on him."

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Mary Trump Traces Donald Trump's Attack On Iran To The Pettiest Reason

The president's niece reduced his motive for strikes on Iran to a recent blow to his fragile ego.
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I think the mutilated jewboys are in for a bit of a shock.:)
 
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What a ridiculous post from Tank.

The President said exactly what everyone feels but apparently its "stoopid"?

I suppose there's not enough of a worthless 7 year PHD to come to the same conclusion.
 
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I think it is impossible to change what the politicians in the States are doing. The States are still preferable to Russia/China because the latter are literal Communists but Americans also have a serious problem with Jews.

What looks like something Conservative, the Trump movement is just like the Farage movement in England... it will lead to further encroachment by Jews of the Third Estate.

What we need is to reform the European Union to be a united, European & allied front against Russian Communism & American Liberalism like Julius Evola suggests at the end of 'Men Among the Ruins'.
 
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Haven said:
It is very hard to put the Genie back in the bottle... especially when your understanding of the history of the Middle East came from a Joe Rogan podcast.
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I just don't get it. Tank supports everything Trump does regarding the Jews and Muslims yet then starts slagging him off.

What's this guy's problem?
 
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Myles O'Reilly said:
I just don't get it. Tank supports everything Trump does regarding the Jews and Muslims yet then starts slagging him off.

What's this guy's problem?
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The Tank of Wank is a lony little idiot who craves the attention of posters on this and all other Irish boards like this one.
It's always been this way.
It takes the contrarian view of anyone and everyone as it begs for attention.
Funny as fuck, though!!!!😂 😂
 
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