Civil War in the UK Watch Thread.

SeekTheFairLand said:

There has been alot of online chatter recently that the UK is approaching civil war. This follows an interview with Professor David Betz who speculates that a Civil War will happen in the UK in the next five years. This is not something that can be avoided at this stage he claims. He also theorises that it wont be a two sided war, but a multi-front, all against all conflict. He suggests that up to half a million will die in this war.

With such certainty from David Betz it perhaps worth a thread to document the descent.

Below is original video. And I will link further interviews where he has developed his idea.


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SeekTheFairLand said:

Resisted it for a long time as hyperbole, but I am now convinced Britain is in the early stages of civil war, the shooting just hasn't started, and may not start for a long time, but this country is utterly fucked and increasingly, the only viable path ahead is a kinetic one

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SwordOfStZip said:

There is little chance of it happening. We all witnessed just how crap at rioting the Tommy Robinson and Sargon fans are last Summer- those people are not capable of carrying out a civil war especially one that would require people to carry out mainly covert operations which is what people are talking about here. The same podcasts who are pushing this are also pushing the insane narrative that disciples of Mirsaid Sultan-Galiev are on the verge of taking power in the UK- that is even more crazy than the belief of people like roc_ that the 26 counties are anyday now going to fall into the hands of Justin Barrett and Jambo.

The thing is- and in the past I was majorly guilty of this- often when people have problems in their lives that seem insolvable they find comfort in taking up imaginary problems and making them the focus of all their anxiety. Getting wound up with the idea of a coming civil war allows them to escape worrying about their sexual failures and perversions, their massive debts (debt has become a huge problem in England), alcohol and drug problems and the list goes on. Savage Ulster Prods care about other savage Ulster Prods- the English fans of Tommy and Sargon do not care about other men like themselves.

There will be though be increasing decline both economically, morally and culturally which could end up with a situation similar to that of Mexico where drug cartels are basically in charge of a lot of the country down the line.

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Otu said:

Last time England had a civil war they sent Cromwell over.

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SeekTheFairLand said:

Resisted it for a long time as hyperbole, but I am now convinced Britain is in the early stages of civil war, the shooting just hasn't started, and may not start for a long time, but this country is utterly fucked and increasingly, the only viable path ahead is a kinetic one

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Haven said:

To fight a civil war, you need weapons. Where are they going to come from? Or the money? The UK has one of the most restrictive gun control regimes with massive criminal penalties. And the British Army isnt going to splinter in any way, and civil wars usually see a split in the armed forces.

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SwordOfStZip said:

Valid points. And of course the chances of civil war erupting were FAR higher during the Miners' Strike than they have been for decades now and even than it was not a real probability. However I find it doubtful whether the people pushing this narrative actually believe in it. What is really interesting however is that you have people in the mainstream such as Louis Perry jumping on this bandwagon.

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SwordOfStZip said:

There is little chance of it happening. We all witnessed just how crap at rioting the Tommy Robinson and Sargon fans are last Summer- those people are not capable of carrying out a civil war especially one that would require people to carry out mainly covert operations which is what people are talking about here. The same podcasts who are pushing this are also pushing the insane narrative that disciples of Mirsaid Sultan-Galiev are on the verge of taking power in the UK- that is even more crazy than the belief of people like roc_ that the 26 counties are anyday now going to fall into the hands of Justin Barrett and Jambo.

The thing is- and in the past I was majorly guilty of this- often when people have problems in their lives that seem insolvable they find comfort in taking up imaginary problems and making them the focus of all their anxiety. Getting wound up with the idea of a coming civil war allows them to escape worrying about their sexual failures and perversions, their massive debts (debt has become a huge problem in England), alcohol and drug problems and the list goes on. Savage Ulster Prods care about other savage Ulster Prods- the English fans of Tommy and Sargon do not care about other men like themselves.

There will be though be increasing decline both economically, morally and culturally which could end up with a situation similar to that of Mexico where drug cartels are basically in charge of a lot of the country down the line.

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Haven said:

There is really nothing going on now thats radically and substantively different from the last few decades.

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Haven said:

Its fan-fiction level content, rather than serious analysis, but it will get views.

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Aldo said:

Yes there is. The two main political Parties have tanked in support. Reform, a Party with 5 MPs, are the most popular Party in the country. If an election were held tomorrow the governing Party (which currently holds 400 seats) would end up with less than 200.

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Aldo said:

There is massive disenfranchisement among the general population - particularly concerning mass immigration.

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Labour's immigration plans at a glance

The government says its proposals will reduce record levels of migration to the UK in recent years.

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Haven said:

Which would result in....a change in government.

Lets say Reform then tried an ICE deportation of illegals. At worst you'd see civil disobedience on the streets like the US. But protesters are not going to get their hands on the thousands of small arms needed to even think about challenging the state.

Labour's immigration plans at a glance

The government says its proposals will reduce record levels of migration to the UK in recent years.

www.bbc.com

The incumbant party isnt just going to do nothing, you know.

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Aldo said:

You said nothing had changed in 50 years. The two Parties that have dominated politics there have completely collapsed in support overnight. This is a massive change. A Party that was hastily formed in response to Brexit would win a majority were an election held tomorrow.

Much like the situation we find ourselves in, I imagine the general public are getting fed up with the waffle and bluster coming from these careerist gimps.

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Aldo said:

You said nothing had changed in 50 years. The two Parties that have dominated politics there have completely collapsed in support overnight. This is a massive change. A Party that was hastily formed in response to Brexit would win a majority were an election held tomorrow.

Much like the situation we find ourselves in, I imagine the general public are getting fed up with the waffle and bluster coming from these careerist gimps.

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Haven said:

And yet, despite all that, the class system and societal pressures, at no point was a civil war even a remote possibility in Britain.

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Mad as Fish said:

Pulling my tin foil hat firmly about my ears it might be suggested that Establishment UK, which runs the kip under orders from America, might take fright at such an outburst of something approaching democracy and decide that a suitably tame but well controlled civil war is just the thing to lock down the place under martial law and install a 'temporary' emergency government of bigwigs and generals, and the likes of Blair just to give it a face.

All that is needed is a tame press and a flash point, y'know, something like Pakistanis raping white girls, that sort of thing.

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Haven said:

This is a totally garbage idea.

There is really nothing going on now thats radically and substantively different from the last few decades.

The UK went through WW2 and basically improvished itself, with rationing continuing into the 50s. The 70s saw an economic malise, the 3 day week, and an IMF bailout. The 80s saw Thatcher, Miners strikes and Poll Tax riots, the latter put the recent riots in the shade.

And yet, despite all that, the class system and societal pressures, at no point was a civil war even a remote possibility in Britain.

To fight a civil war, you need weapons. Where are they going to come from? Or the money? The UK has one of the most restrictive gun control regimes with massive criminal penalties. And the British Army isnt going to splinter in any way, and civil wars usually see a split in the armed forces.

And the UK has already seen a civil war from 1968 to 1998, hasnt it? How well did that go really? Were the main aims actually met?

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Aldo said:

A Party that was hastily formed in response to Brexit would win a majority were an election held tomorrow.

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The Anti-Mantra said:

We're increasingly fucked, and the internet is to blame.

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Haven said:

This is a totally garbage idea.There is really nothing going on now thats radically and substantively different from the last few decades.The UK went through WW2 and basically improvished itself, with rationing continuing into the 50s. The 70s saw an economic malise, the 3 day week, and an IMF bailout. The 80s saw Thatcher, Miners strikes and Poll Tax riots, the latter put the recent riots in the shade.And yet, despite all that, the class system and societal pressures, at no point was a civil war even a remote possibility in Britain.
To fight a civil war, you need weapons. Where are they going to come from? Or the money? The UK has one of the most restrictive gun control regimes with massive criminal penalties. And the British Army isnt going to splinter in any way, and civil wars usually see a split in the armed forces. And the UK has already seen a civil war from 1968 to 1998, hasnt it? How well did that go really? Were the main aims actually met?

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Hermit said:

Bob Vylan didn't know the CEO and President of his talent agency are both Jews. He nose now.


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