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This article is just an attempt to reply to those people who complain that some articles on this webforum veer too much into implausible ‘conspiracy theories’.
Widespread real conspiracies and secrets kept
‘There is no such thing as conspiracy theories because they usually involve large numbers of people holding a secret for a long period of time, and that never happens in real life, somebody always talks!’
You are going to get hit by that phrase, or some variation of it, all the time if you believe in any supposed ‘conspiracy theory’. OK lets put it to the test a little. Lets ask ourselves are there examples out there of conspiracies that were kept secret by large numbers of people over a significant period of time.
British Intelligence during the Troubles
I think with the publication of some new reports into Stakeknife and the Glenanne Gang, from Operations Kenova and Denton, whitewashes though these government reports are, that there is almost a consensus out there that a huge proportion of the paramilitary ‘atrocities’ committed during the Troubles, by actually all sides, were in fact the doings of British Intelligence. As well as creating the impression that the Dublin and Monaghan bombings were only the result of Protestant paramilitaries, the Irish media at the time remorselessly hyped up the killings of informers, like Thomas Oliver in Cooley, which we now know was linked to these British Intelligence agents. Actually the whole IRA security section was run by them but even The Sunday Tribune used to run full colour front page pictures of the bodies of these executed informers. Now we know how much we were lied to, comprehensively over a vast period of time, many decades, by the media, academic and political establishments in Britain and Ireland on this.
Since this went on for so many decades, and involved huge number of killings and atrocities, the fact is that there must have been many hundreds, probably thousands, who knew that what the general public were told here was a lie, and yet the powers that be got away with it, how? Well first of all there are serious laws against anybody working for the government talking to the general public or the press about government policy, if not the Official Secrets Act you have other laws that forbid, for example, the Gardaí from informing the public. Then you have the overall point that your bosses within the system are telling you to do those things, and so your promotion prospects, and, in a pinch, possibly your pension, rests on the good will of these people so you don’t want to cross them.
You see in a kind of a way this is all a clash of value systems, of what you perceive, or what you perceive wider society perceives, as the correct or proper thing to do. Modern society values following the law, and remember the law is on the side of keeping your mouth shut here, and money, and the status of having a job or pension generally, very highly, and doesn’t seem to put a big store on honesty or civic responsibility, or even human life as is involved in this case, so why should you put your neck on the line to inform the general public?
False Garda Drink Driving Tests
Its estimated that from 2009 to 2016 approximately 2 million roadside breath test results, for excess alcohol when driving, were simply made up by the Gardaí, totally fictitious. This scandal includes eye witnesses who saw Gardaí blowing into breathalyser tests to create some of these fictitious results and includes other features:
The actual context, although they don’t say this anywhere else, is that the state was trying to destroy the social mechanisms of rural dwellers, hyping up the existing problem to create an excuse to introduce draconian drink driving limits that would prevent a person even taking one drink in a pub before driving off. Since rural pubs are not linked to bus systems and taxis are too expensive, it was hoped it would close them down and hence break these social networks, because the powers that be always want people communicating with each other only through heavily monitored, and now heavily censored, electronic social networks.
Anyway the scale of it is incredible in a country the size of Ireland, with its thought about 1,000 Gardaí committing offences thereby. The rank and file Gardaí say they were told to do it by upper management, in all probability the truth, but the latter say there is no evidence of that at all, and of course there has been no prosecution or disciplinary action within the Gardaí of any type for this scandal.
Hospitals said to be full during Covid
Another random example might be the statement that Irish hospitals were overwhelmed with patients during Covid, and thats why you had to save the system by getting vaccinated. Two people known to this writer went onto the wards of Galway University Hospital during this hype and found them empty, while another researched what happened in Belfast where the hospital was supposedly so overwhelmed it had ambulances lined up to house patients, and found it to be a complete hoax. How was that kept secret? Well the two people I refer to were immediately seized by the Gardaí when their feet hit the footpath outside the hospital, and were instantly jailed until they got a court hearing where they were accused of trespass, on a public ward of a public hospital.
In any case I think most people understand now that that line was a hoax, the nurses were all doing those famous Jerusalema videos because they had nothing else to do, while remorselessly across every media in Ireland the line was how overwhelmed they were. How did they get away with it, presumably there were hundreds of people working in these hospitals, and hence thousands taking account the island in general, who knew it was a lie? Well they did, again you will find most people just don’t care that the general public were lied to, far less important than pensions and promotions and the law, which as you saw in the case of my two friends, was on the side of covering things up as always.
Widespread real conspiracies and secrets kept
‘There is no such thing as conspiracy theories because they usually involve large numbers of people holding a secret for a long period of time, and that never happens in real life, somebody always talks!’
You are going to get hit by that phrase, or some variation of it, all the time if you believe in any supposed ‘conspiracy theory’. OK lets put it to the test a little. Lets ask ourselves are there examples out there of conspiracies that were kept secret by large numbers of people over a significant period of time.
British Intelligence during the Troubles
I think with the publication of some new reports into Stakeknife and the Glenanne Gang, from Operations Kenova and Denton, whitewashes though these government reports are, that there is almost a consensus out there that a huge proportion of the paramilitary ‘atrocities’ committed during the Troubles, by actually all sides, were in fact the doings of British Intelligence. As well as creating the impression that the Dublin and Monaghan bombings were only the result of Protestant paramilitaries, the Irish media at the time remorselessly hyped up the killings of informers, like Thomas Oliver in Cooley, which we now know was linked to these British Intelligence agents. Actually the whole IRA security section was run by them but even The Sunday Tribune used to run full colour front page pictures of the bodies of these executed informers. Now we know how much we were lied to, comprehensively over a vast period of time, many decades, by the media, academic and political establishments in Britain and Ireland on this.
Since this went on for so many decades, and involved huge number of killings and atrocities, the fact is that there must have been many hundreds, probably thousands, who knew that what the general public were told here was a lie, and yet the powers that be got away with it, how? Well first of all there are serious laws against anybody working for the government talking to the general public or the press about government policy, if not the Official Secrets Act you have other laws that forbid, for example, the Gardaí from informing the public. Then you have the overall point that your bosses within the system are telling you to do those things, and so your promotion prospects, and, in a pinch, possibly your pension, rests on the good will of these people so you don’t want to cross them.
You see in a kind of a way this is all a clash of value systems, of what you perceive, or what you perceive wider society perceives, as the correct or proper thing to do. Modern society values following the law, and remember the law is on the side of keeping your mouth shut here, and money, and the status of having a job or pension generally, very highly, and doesn’t seem to put a big store on honesty or civic responsibility, or even human life as is involved in this case, so why should you put your neck on the line to inform the general public?
False Garda Drink Driving Tests
Its estimated that from 2009 to 2016 approximately 2 million roadside breath test results, for excess alcohol when driving, were simply made up by the Gardaí, totally fictitious. This scandal includes eye witnesses who saw Gardaí blowing into breathalyser tests to create some of these fictitious results and includes other features:
“The Garda also admitted that 146,000 people were taken to court and 14,700 people were wrongly convicted of motoring offences because of issues with the fixed penalty system.
Some of those had not paid fines but were prosecuted even though they had not received the fixed charge notice in the post, while others were taken to court even though they had received the penalty and paid it.”(1)
The actual context, although they don’t say this anywhere else, is that the state was trying to destroy the social mechanisms of rural dwellers, hyping up the existing problem to create an excuse to introduce draconian drink driving limits that would prevent a person even taking one drink in a pub before driving off. Since rural pubs are not linked to bus systems and taxis are too expensive, it was hoped it would close them down and hence break these social networks, because the powers that be always want people communicating with each other only through heavily monitored, and now heavily censored, electronic social networks.
Anyway the scale of it is incredible in a country the size of Ireland, with its thought about 1,000 Gardaí committing offences thereby. The rank and file Gardaí say they were told to do it by upper management, in all probability the truth, but the latter say there is no evidence of that at all, and of course there has been no prosecution or disciplinary action within the Gardaí of any type for this scandal.
Hospitals said to be full during Covid
Another random example might be the statement that Irish hospitals were overwhelmed with patients during Covid, and thats why you had to save the system by getting vaccinated. Two people known to this writer went onto the wards of Galway University Hospital during this hype and found them empty, while another researched what happened in Belfast where the hospital was supposedly so overwhelmed it had ambulances lined up to house patients, and found it to be a complete hoax. How was that kept secret? Well the two people I refer to were immediately seized by the Gardaí when their feet hit the footpath outside the hospital, and were instantly jailed until they got a court hearing where they were accused of trespass, on a public ward of a public hospital.
In any case I think most people understand now that that line was a hoax, the nurses were all doing those famous Jerusalema videos because they had nothing else to do, while remorselessly across every media in Ireland the line was how overwhelmed they were. How did they get away with it, presumably there were hundreds of people working in these hospitals, and hence thousands taking account the island in general, who knew it was a lie? Well they did, again you will find most people just don’t care that the general public were lied to, far less important than pensions and promotions and the law, which as you saw in the case of my two friends, was on the side of covering things up as always.