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<blockquote data-quote="A Man Called Charolais" data-source="post: 61964"><p>Good find, behind a paywall, it can be read on MSN <a href="https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/the-real-covid-scandal-is-emerging-right-in-front-of-the-inquiry-s-nose/ar-AA1ji11d" target="_blank">here</a>.</p><p></p><p>'Let’s go back to when much of the world had copied the Wuhan lockdown, with two major exceptions: Britain and Sweden. In both countries, public health officials were reluctant to implement a lockdown theory that had no basis in science. Ditto the case for mandatory masks. The public had responded: mobile-phone data showed millions were already staying home. Could you really put an entire nation under house arrest, then mandate masks, if you had no evidence that either policy would work?</p><p></p><p>...</p><p></p><p>There was no Sage modelling until quite late on but, soon, models and disaster-graphs were everywhere. Cummings’s evidence includes photos taken in No 10 of hand-drawn charts with annotations like “100,000+ people dying in corridors”. He says he told Boris Johnson that failure to lock down would end in a “zombie apocalypse movie with unburied bodies”. The PM asked him, if this was all true, “why aren’t Hancock, Whitty, Vallance telling me this?”</p><p></p><p>...</p><p></p><p>It was a different story in Sweden where Johan Giesecke, a former state epidemiologist, had returned to the Public Health Agency and was reading Ferguson’s models in disbelief. Remember mad cow disease, when 4 million English livestock had been slaughtered to prevent the disease spreading? “They thought 50,000 people would die,” he told his staff. “How many did? 177.” He recalled Ferguson saying 200 million might die from bird flu when just 455 did. Modellers, he argued, had been calamitously wrong in the past. Should society really be closed now on their say so?</p><p></p><p>...</p><p></p><p>Britain’s Covid Inquiry has years to run: Sweden’s was over some time ago. It unearthed an email that Giesecke sent Tegnell, just after Denmark and Norway locked down and pressure on Sweden was at its peak. It was a quote from a Swedish diplomat in 1648: “<em>An nescis, mi fili, quantilla prudentia mundas regatur</em>”. Underneath, he included a translation: “Don’t you know, my son, with how little wisdom the world is governed?”'</p><p></p><p></p><p>A lot of public policy is being driven by computer modelling. It's reliability is dubious and should not be relied upon as the basis for programs of <a href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/10.1086/430804" target="_blank">upheaval</a> over than those of incremental <a href="https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/iteration" target="_blank">iteration</a>.</p><p></p><p></p><p>'With this in mind, he goes on argue that scientific theories are distinguished from non-scientific theories by a second sort of boldness: they make testable claims that future observations might reveal to be false. This boldness thus amounts to a willingness to take a risk of being wrong. On Popper’s view, scientists investigating a theory make repeated, honest attempts to falsify the theory, whereas adherents of pseudoscientific or metaphysical theories <u>routinely take measures to make the observed reality fit the predictions of the theory</u>.'</p><p></p><p><a href="https://iep.utm.edu/pop-sci/" target="_blank">https://iep.utm.edu/pop-sci/</a></p><p></p><p></p><p>The imbroglio around the vaccines hasn't emerged as a topic in polite society topic yet. It's a dreadful prospect that many would prefer to avoid - ignorance provides a quantilla of solace I suppose.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="A Man Called Charolais, post: 61964"] Good find, behind a paywall, it can be read on MSN [URL='https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/the-real-covid-scandal-is-emerging-right-in-front-of-the-inquiry-s-nose/ar-AA1ji11d']here[/URL]. 'Let’s go back to when much of the world had copied the Wuhan lockdown, with two major exceptions: Britain and Sweden. In both countries, public health officials were reluctant to implement a lockdown theory that had no basis in science. Ditto the case for mandatory masks. The public had responded: mobile-phone data showed millions were already staying home. Could you really put an entire nation under house arrest, then mandate masks, if you had no evidence that either policy would work? ... There was no Sage modelling until quite late on but, soon, models and disaster-graphs were everywhere. Cummings’s evidence includes photos taken in No 10 of hand-drawn charts with annotations like “100,000+ people dying in corridors”. He says he told Boris Johnson that failure to lock down would end in a “zombie apocalypse movie with unburied bodies”. The PM asked him, if this was all true, “why aren’t Hancock, Whitty, Vallance telling me this?” ... It was a different story in Sweden where Johan Giesecke, a former state epidemiologist, had returned to the Public Health Agency and was reading Ferguson’s models in disbelief. Remember mad cow disease, when 4 million English livestock had been slaughtered to prevent the disease spreading? “They thought 50,000 people would die,” he told his staff. “How many did? 177.” He recalled Ferguson saying 200 million might die from bird flu when just 455 did. Modellers, he argued, had been calamitously wrong in the past. Should society really be closed now on their say so? ... Britain’s Covid Inquiry has years to run: Sweden’s was over some time ago. It unearthed an email that Giesecke sent Tegnell, just after Denmark and Norway locked down and pressure on Sweden was at its peak. It was a quote from a Swedish diplomat in 1648: “[I]An nescis, mi fili, quantilla prudentia mundas regatur[/I]”. Underneath, he included a translation: “Don’t you know, my son, with how little wisdom the world is governed?”' A lot of public policy is being driven by computer modelling. It's reliability is dubious and should not be relied upon as the basis for programs of [URL='https://www.jstor.org/stable/10.1086/430804']upheaval[/URL] over than those of incremental [URL='https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/iteration']iteration[/URL]. 'With this in mind, he goes on argue that scientific theories are distinguished from non-scientific theories by a second sort of boldness: they make testable claims that future observations might reveal to be false. This boldness thus amounts to a willingness to take a risk of being wrong. On Popper’s view, scientists investigating a theory make repeated, honest attempts to falsify the theory, whereas adherents of pseudoscientific or metaphysical theories [U]routinely take measures to make the observed reality fit the predictions of the theory[/U].' [URL]https://iep.utm.edu/pop-sci/[/URL] The imbroglio around the vaccines hasn't emerged as a topic in polite society topic yet. It's a dreadful prospect that many would prefer to avoid - ignorance provides a quantilla of solace I suppose. [/QUOTE]
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