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<blockquote data-quote="A Man Called Charolais" data-source="post: 80423"><p>Long article. You posted something from him before that I replied to : </p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.sarsfieldsvirtualpub.com/threads/%F0%9F%A6%A0-covid-19-vaccine-thread-%F0%9F%92%89.236/page-111#post-75047" target="_blank">https://www.sarsfieldsvirtualpub.com/threads/🦠-covid-19-vaccine-thread-💉.236/page-111#post-75047</a></p><p></p><p>From your above post:</p><p></p><p>'I can not sufficiently emphasize how nightmarish this problem is. It effectively shuts down all the pro-inflammatory messaging that your immune cells produce, that encourages infected cells to destroy the viral RNA that infected them, warns the neighboring vulnerable cells there is a virus present and encourages other immune cells to get active. You will have reduced symptoms of the infection as a result, while the virus happily spreads through your cells. That is insanely dangerous when dealing with a virus like this, that has the inherent ability to spread by fusing an infected cell together with an uninfected cells.</p><p></p><p>Infections don’t solve this problem, they make it steadily worse. The first signs are seen after two shots, but it only becomes significant once those two shots are followed by an infection. We have not seen a fraction yet of what this problem will cause, because respiratory pathogens like SARS2 will evolve in response to this abnormal immune response to abuse it. You can expect an increase in asymptomatic infections from a variety of respiratory pathogens. <u>The absurd rates of pneumonia now seen in children may be largely a result of them constantly being exposed to those asymptomatic carriers.</u> I have been warning for a long time now, that some solution needs to be sought to remove these B cells doing this, but nothing is being done.'</p><p></p><p></p><p>More</p><p></p><p>'Eventually, we will see the same thing as we recently saw in South Africa: These persistent infections will end up with shorter loops in the N-Terminal Domain, turning this virus into something more similar to the original SARS. You will see deletions emerge in these regions: 14-26 (N1), 141-156 (N3) and 246-260 (N5).</p><p></p><p>You may also see mutations of amino acids to Serine or Threonine, either within these regions, or around them. Once you see this happen, you can expect a rapid increase in virulence. It will be impossible to deny something is seriously wrong. An awful lot of people will get very sick simultaneously.</p><p></p><p>Once we reach this point, there will be no places left where antibodies can bind and neutralize the Spike protein, because the whole RBD either looks similar to our own amino acids, or is shielded by the glycans. Binding to the glycans seems to be insufficient to neutralize the Spike protein, but causes autoimmune problems, as these antibodies also bind to your own cells glycans.</p><p></p><p>Because people’s immune systems have spent the past three years, devoting more and more of their limited capacity to this adaptive immune response of antibodies and T cells, proliferating these cells at the cost of the innate immune system’s ability to do its job, now treating this Spike protein as if it were a kind of strange new bee venom or pollen that is continually showing up in our lungs somehow, the loss of these immunogenic regions of the N-Terminal Domain would suddenly leave most people in highly vaccinated Western countries with no protection.</p><p></p><p>...</p><p></p><p>On the other hand, among people with natural immunity, the innate immune system would continue to do its job:</p><p></p><p>-NK cells have proliferated, adjusted their receptor repertoire and know when to strike.</p><p></p><p>-Plasmacytoid dendritic cells have proliferated and are not told to shut down by IgG4 antibodies.'</p><p></p><p></p><p>Looks like there's been a rise in cases reported here but it's nothing catastrophic as yet:</p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/covid-ireland-warning-cases-new-32068400" target="_blank">Covid Ireland warning as cases of new variant increase again - the symptoms to look out for - Irish Mirror</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="A Man Called Charolais, post: 80423"] Long article. You posted something from him before that I replied to : [URL]https://www.sarsfieldsvirtualpub.com/threads/%F0%9F%A6%A0-covid-19-vaccine-thread-%F0%9F%92%89.236/page-111#post-75047[/URL] From your above post: 'I can not sufficiently emphasize how nightmarish this problem is. It effectively shuts down all the pro-inflammatory messaging that your immune cells produce, that encourages infected cells to destroy the viral RNA that infected them, warns the neighboring vulnerable cells there is a virus present and encourages other immune cells to get active. You will have reduced symptoms of the infection as a result, while the virus happily spreads through your cells. That is insanely dangerous when dealing with a virus like this, that has the inherent ability to spread by fusing an infected cell together with an uninfected cells. Infections don’t solve this problem, they make it steadily worse. The first signs are seen after two shots, but it only becomes significant once those two shots are followed by an infection. We have not seen a fraction yet of what this problem will cause, because respiratory pathogens like SARS2 will evolve in response to this abnormal immune response to abuse it. You can expect an increase in asymptomatic infections from a variety of respiratory pathogens. [U]The absurd rates of pneumonia now seen in children may be largely a result of them constantly being exposed to those asymptomatic carriers.[/U] I have been warning for a long time now, that some solution needs to be sought to remove these B cells doing this, but nothing is being done.' More 'Eventually, we will see the same thing as we recently saw in South Africa: These persistent infections will end up with shorter loops in the N-Terminal Domain, turning this virus into something more similar to the original SARS. You will see deletions emerge in these regions: 14-26 (N1), 141-156 (N3) and 246-260 (N5). You may also see mutations of amino acids to Serine or Threonine, either within these regions, or around them. Once you see this happen, you can expect a rapid increase in virulence. It will be impossible to deny something is seriously wrong. An awful lot of people will get very sick simultaneously. Once we reach this point, there will be no places left where antibodies can bind and neutralize the Spike protein, because the whole RBD either looks similar to our own amino acids, or is shielded by the glycans. Binding to the glycans seems to be insufficient to neutralize the Spike protein, but causes autoimmune problems, as these antibodies also bind to your own cells glycans. Because people’s immune systems have spent the past three years, devoting more and more of their limited capacity to this adaptive immune response of antibodies and T cells, proliferating these cells at the cost of the innate immune system’s ability to do its job, now treating this Spike protein as if it were a kind of strange new bee venom or pollen that is continually showing up in our lungs somehow, the loss of these immunogenic regions of the N-Terminal Domain would suddenly leave most people in highly vaccinated Western countries with no protection. ... On the other hand, among people with natural immunity, the innate immune system would continue to do its job: -NK cells have proliferated, adjusted their receptor repertoire and know when to strike. -Plasmacytoid dendritic cells have proliferated and are not told to shut down by IgG4 antibodies.' Looks like there's been a rise in cases reported here but it's nothing catastrophic as yet: [URL='https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/covid-ireland-warning-cases-new-32068400']Covid Ireland warning as cases of new variant increase again - the symptoms to look out for - Irish Mirror[/URL] [/QUOTE]
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