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<blockquote data-quote="A Man Called Charolais" data-source="post: 80516"><p>There are bits missing from this but it's the gist.</p><p></p><p>Your immune system has a layered defence with different systems to deal with infections. The innate immune system (roving natural killer cells) is the first type, the antibody system is the learned type. </p><p></p><p>The reason why children were immune to COVID is because their innate immune system is very strong while their learned system is weak. It's opposite in older people.</p><p></p><p>The vaccine uses the antibody system.</p><p></p><p>There are two different types of antibodies - one marks an infected cell for destruction, the other marks them to be ignored</p><p></p><p>After the second injection - the second system (that exists so we don't get severe allergy reactions) dominates. It suppresses the immune system. A peanut allergy is an example of this system not being properly active so it's important.</p><p></p><p>COVID can cause big immune reactions that can produce severe symptoms that can kill people.</p><p></p><p>By using the second system, this stops the severe symptoms, so less people die, but it makes infected people not seem ill because symptoms are caused by the fight against an infection. This means the infection runs amok and persists for longer - they're riddled with COVID so to speak.</p><p></p><p>Because of the nature of this virus, and since it is sitting around for a long time in people who have a suppressed immune system, this allows the virus to mutate which means the second system doesn't work anymore. This could then cause large numbers of people to fall severely sick at the same time and create a true pandemic.</p><p></p><p>In the mean time, because infected people aren't clearing the virus it means that those around them are experiencing a prolonged exposure to a high viral load in the environment. It also means that there are secondary infections (like other viruses) that accompany persistent infections which also add to the shedding in their vicinity.</p><p></p><p>This causes the writer to link the high rates of respiratory illnesses in children with chronically infected people - he says that he's hearing a lot more of the usual coughing around him. He has graphs.</p><p></p><p>People who weren't vaccinated still have operational immune systems so should be okay. The concern is that no anti-virals are permitted for use, the hospitals are run down, and nothing is being done to anticipate this problem.</p><p></p><p>In response to Macken: you know the food and drink purity laws on the continent? Well this is the sort of fella he is. Probably meditating somewhere with spring water and an apple. Very conscious of the naturalness of his inputs and outputs - something along the lines of Bret Weinstein. A Gaia sort of chap. </p><p></p><p>It hasn't happened yet (and the Minister doesn't seem concerned) so we should put his observations into the noted category. It means that we have a head start should something like this happen - which is a lot more than what we had when COVID hit Italy and caused the panic.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="A Man Called Charolais, post: 80516"] There are bits missing from this but it's the gist. Your immune system has a layered defence with different systems to deal with infections. The innate immune system (roving natural killer cells) is the first type, the antibody system is the learned type. The reason why children were immune to COVID is because their innate immune system is very strong while their learned system is weak. It's opposite in older people. The vaccine uses the antibody system. There are two different types of antibodies - one marks an infected cell for destruction, the other marks them to be ignored After the second injection - the second system (that exists so we don't get severe allergy reactions) dominates. It suppresses the immune system. A peanut allergy is an example of this system not being properly active so it's important. COVID can cause big immune reactions that can produce severe symptoms that can kill people. By using the second system, this stops the severe symptoms, so less people die, but it makes infected people not seem ill because symptoms are caused by the fight against an infection. This means the infection runs amok and persists for longer - they're riddled with COVID so to speak. Because of the nature of this virus, and since it is sitting around for a long time in people who have a suppressed immune system, this allows the virus to mutate which means the second system doesn't work anymore. This could then cause large numbers of people to fall severely sick at the same time and create a true pandemic. In the mean time, because infected people aren't clearing the virus it means that those around them are experiencing a prolonged exposure to a high viral load in the environment. It also means that there are secondary infections (like other viruses) that accompany persistent infections which also add to the shedding in their vicinity. This causes the writer to link the high rates of respiratory illnesses in children with chronically infected people - he says that he's hearing a lot more of the usual coughing around him. He has graphs. People who weren't vaccinated still have operational immune systems so should be okay. The concern is that no anti-virals are permitted for use, the hospitals are run down, and nothing is being done to anticipate this problem. In response to Macken: you know the food and drink purity laws on the continent? Well this is the sort of fella he is. Probably meditating somewhere with spring water and an apple. Very conscious of the naturalness of his inputs and outputs - something along the lines of Bret Weinstein. A Gaia sort of chap. It hasn't happened yet (and the Minister doesn't seem concerned) so we should put his observations into the noted category. It means that we have a head start should something like this happen - which is a lot more than what we had when COVID hit Italy and caused the panic. [/QUOTE]
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