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[Hermit]

You can't provide any evidence for your claim that planets are observed going around the sun, so now you're deflecting to earth rotation. Your problem is you think explanations are evidence or proof. You think some dipshits explaining how the earth spins or how planets go around the sun is proof that that is what happens in reality - it is not. Learn the difference between explanation and proof.

the Earth spins (at a constant speed so you don't notice it)

Earth’s Rotation Is Alarmingly Slowing Down

Time as we know it faces a profound threat.

www.popularmechanics.com

Why is the Earth spinning faster? Is time speeding up? Australia’s experts give us their second opinion

A standard Earth day is 86,400 seconds, but over three days in July and August, scientists expect the planet’s rotation to quicken relative to the sun

www.theguardian.com

 

[AN2]

You can't provide any evidence for your claim that planets are observed going around the sun,

I can't film it on my phone.. is really what you're saying. Flat-earthers folks

We've had the evidence for centuries. In fact, it was only afterwards that Newton pondered if the force that causes an apple to fall to the ground on Earth is the same force that causes the planets to orbit the Sun and of course, it is (albeit gravity isn't actually a force )

so now you're deflecting to earth rotation.

Yes, you could say that the planets are deflected (from their straight line path) because of gravity. Good, you're learning

Your problem is you think explanations are evidence or proof.

Your problem is that you don't realise that such things are surplus to requirements

You think some dipshits explaining how the earth spins or how planets go around the sun is proof that that is what happens in reality - it is not. Learn the difference between explanation and proof.

Obviously the "dipshit" in the previous video wasn't trying to convince anyone that the Earth spins (there weren't any flat-earthers there that day) but it's probably the case that a lot of people couldn't tell you why

The reason of course being inertia, which implies that it isn't caused by a force and its speed is constant

Earth’s Rotation Is Alarmingly Slowing Down

Time as we know it faces a profound threat.

www.popularmechanics.com

Why is the Earth spinning faster? Is time speeding up? Australia’s experts give us their second opinion

A standard Earth day is 86,400 seconds, but over three days in July and August, scientists expect the planet’s rotation to quicken relative to the sun

www.theguardian.com

Do you just read the headlines?

Yeah, you're not going to notice that either, Hermit

 

[Hermit]

I can't film it on my phone.. is really what you're saying. Flat-earthers folks

We've had the evidence for centuries. In fact, it was only afterwards that Newton pondered if the force that causes an apple to fall to the ground on Earth is the same force that causes the planets to orbit the Sun and of course, it is (albeit gravity isn't actually a force )

You have failed to provide evidence for your claim that planets are observed going around the sun. An apple falling to the ground has nothing to do with seeing planets going around the sun. You say an apple falls because of a force and then say that it's not a force, a violation of the law of noncontradiction.

Your problem is that you don't realise that such things are surplus to requirements

So you don't require evidence or proof, you just believe and have faith, like a religion.

Do you just read the headlines?

Yeah, you're not going to notice that either, Hermit

Opening sentence of the first article says the speed is not constant as you claimed. It cannot be constant if it is slowing down or speeding up.

The Earth’s rotation feels like a constant, but that speed actually goes through lots of small fluctuations that are unnoticed by most of the planet’s 8 billion human inhabitants.

 

[AN2]

You have failed to provide evidence for your claim that planets are observed going around the sun.

You wouldn't accept any. You would only accept the equivalent of a flat-earth goofball with a zoom lens filming it

An apple falling to the ground has nothing to do with seeing planets going around the sun.

True but it has to do with why they do. A combination of inertia and gravity is the reason planets orbit the Sun

You say an apple falls because of a force and then say that it's not a force, a violation of the law of noncontradiction.

Newton thought of it (gravity) as a force (in the classical sense) and then along came Einstein with a geometrical interpretation whereby it isn't a force rather the curvature of (4-dimensional) spacetime

So you don't require evidence or proof, you just believe and have faith, like a religion.

You said that I think the explanation is evidence or proof and I said that the evidence or proof (that planets orbit the Sun) came before the explanation, so obviously you were wrong. Even Kepler's laws (derived from observed astronomical data) were not the explanation

Opening sentence of the first article says the speed is not constant as you claimed. It cannot be constant if it is slowing down or speeding up.


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Those changes are unnoticed by all of Earth's inhabitants bar those involved in making precise calculations to detect it

I said that the Earth rotates at a constant speed (due to inertia).. so you're not going to notice it. Tiny fluctuations in the length of a day or gradual change over millions of years, you're not going to notice that either

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

If you believe in Christian theology you will understand that earth is not a ball in a space vacuum.

Hermit could you tell me please WTF Aul Lad was waffling on about?

 

[Hermit]

Hermit could you tell me please WTF Aul Lad was waffling on about?

The gist of it was:
"The universe is like really big and stuff, so big that I can't understand it. It would be real scary if we discovered aliens more advanced than us. If you're a Christian then the first question you would ask the aliens is who is your God, and if they didn't describe the Christian God then we would be in trouble."

 

[Hermit]

I said that the Earth rotates at a constant speed

But it doesn't rotate at a constant speed according to the heliocentric globe paradigm. It doesn't matter if fluctuations are small and you don't notice it, if it changes then it cannot be constant by definition. Constant means unchanging.

 

[AN2]

I said that the Earth rotates at a constant speed (due to inertia).. so you're not going to notice it. Tiny fluctuations in the length of a day or gradual change over millions of years, you're not going to notice that either

But it doesn't rotate at a constant speed

Obviously the relevance of this to flat-earth is that flat-earthers claim that the Earth doesn't rotate because otherwise it would be noticeable

Actual flat-earth science -


View: https://m.youtube.com/shorts/EgbvIwDK7ZU

 

[AN2]

The gist of it was:
"The universe is like really big and stuff, so big that I can't understand it. It would be real scary if we discovered aliens more advanced than us. If you're a Christian then the first question you would ask the aliens is who is your God, and if they didn't describe the Christian God then we would be in trouble."

Yeah, so I find it actually quite grating that a fucken flat-earther adopts a mocking imitatory tone for someone else (who doesn't think space is fake)