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<blockquote data-quote="scolairebocht" data-source="post: 121705" data-attributes="member: 8"><p>Gosh many thanks for your kind comments Declan, I don't think I have a famous face, but sometimes I have a famous voice! When I was in Dundrum I think it was Fiona, that was on the RTE debate a few weeks ago, called me over I am sure to give me some spiel about outside agitators causing trouble but when she heard me say a few words then it was like 'I know you and you're ok'!</p><p></p><p>Ok a simple idea is just to gather together a few people to form a kind of board of directors, committee, to come together and issue a statement now and again on the various issues. This would put a kind of focus on our efforts a bit and would help to coordinate protests etc. It would just be a committee that would meet face to face periodically and otherwise use a simple email list and maybe zoom the odd time.</p><p></p><p>But crucially it should be absolutely clear that such an organisation has nothing whatsoever to do with elections, neither now nor in the future, full stop. Now why I hear you ask?</p><p></p><p>Well first of all we have a gap of probably five years, about, before any other election, and these are likely to be very difficult years for Irish people, so we have an opportunity of forgetting about elections for a while, that I think we should take. And incidentally it also means, I believe, that we wouldn't have to register with the stultifying bureaucracy in this country that destroys everything, but which might be necessary if we were electorally focused.</p><p></p><p>For what its worth I think democracy is very important, not least in Ireland where actually a lot of the time it has been very successful, but we have to stop fooling ourselves, we don't have democracy in modern Ireland. The odds are stacked too much against people, in joining what is a rubber stamp chamber for outside globalists interests and institutions anyway, and now, I believe, we have clearly got vote fraud which makes the whole exercise of contesting elections a certifiably complete waste of time, energy and money.</p><p> </p><p>This also means that any talk whatsoever of 'concentrate on bread and butter issues', ' we don't want to scare the electorate in x y or z way even though it is what we believe', etc etc, should get a complete day off in this organisation. Nothing like that should ever be contemplated, it would only focus on what we think is the best way forward for this country and its people (by which I mean the ethnic Irish people, there is a small army of well funded organisations looking after the other groups here). We say what we think to be true and right, and to hell with the consequences in popularity or any other similar consideration.</p><p></p><p>Also there is a genuine tradition in Ireland of a prayer been said before meetings, even IRA meetings in the past, and a very long tradition of that in political/legal institutions in Ireland (and England actually) going back many many centuries. So I would ask that we do the same here, and open and end face to face and other meetings with a short Hail Mary (which obviously nobody has to join in with if they don't want to).</p><p></p><p>So its just an organisation which would put out a statement now and again (there would no need for any other web structure than just a forum on here if need be to publish the statements) saying that this pornography shouldn't be taught in the schools, or this protest is been organised against this IPAS centre please come to it, whatever, and maybe it could evolve into something bigger as time goes on. (If we do get another pandemic for example, it would have to try and advise people, at least a little, on taking vaccines and wearing masks, and if we were to oppose it it could build a bit of solidarity among us.)</p><p></p><p>For example here is a simple thing, we could try and organise some kind of rudimentary welfare system, even soup kitchens or something, or some aid to the homeless. You might say why, when you have so many charitable institutions already? Because Irish people are at the end of a long queue at these places now, this would be focused on Irish people if we could do so.</p><p></p><p>I propose a motto as well, 'Do cum glóire Dé agus Onóra na hÉireann', which is obviously a famous Irish motto used very extensively for media outlets and organisations here in the past. It is said that it was used first by Michael O'Cleirigh, the compiler of the Annals of the Four Masters about 1636, saying he did that 'For the Glory of God, and the Honour of Ireland'.</p><p></p><p>Just a few thoughts anyway...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="scolairebocht, post: 121705, member: 8"] Gosh many thanks for your kind comments Declan, I don't think I have a famous face, but sometimes I have a famous voice! When I was in Dundrum I think it was Fiona, that was on the RTE debate a few weeks ago, called me over I am sure to give me some spiel about outside agitators causing trouble but when she heard me say a few words then it was like 'I know you and you're ok'! Ok a simple idea is just to gather together a few people to form a kind of board of directors, committee, to come together and issue a statement now and again on the various issues. This would put a kind of focus on our efforts a bit and would help to coordinate protests etc. It would just be a committee that would meet face to face periodically and otherwise use a simple email list and maybe zoom the odd time. But crucially it should be absolutely clear that such an organisation has nothing whatsoever to do with elections, neither now nor in the future, full stop. Now why I hear you ask? Well first of all we have a gap of probably five years, about, before any other election, and these are likely to be very difficult years for Irish people, so we have an opportunity of forgetting about elections for a while, that I think we should take. And incidentally it also means, I believe, that we wouldn't have to register with the stultifying bureaucracy in this country that destroys everything, but which might be necessary if we were electorally focused. For what its worth I think democracy is very important, not least in Ireland where actually a lot of the time it has been very successful, but we have to stop fooling ourselves, we don't have democracy in modern Ireland. The odds are stacked too much against people, in joining what is a rubber stamp chamber for outside globalists interests and institutions anyway, and now, I believe, we have clearly got vote fraud which makes the whole exercise of contesting elections a certifiably complete waste of time, energy and money. This also means that any talk whatsoever of 'concentrate on bread and butter issues', ' we don't want to scare the electorate in x y or z way even though it is what we believe', etc etc, should get a complete day off in this organisation. Nothing like that should ever be contemplated, it would only focus on what we think is the best way forward for this country and its people (by which I mean the ethnic Irish people, there is a small army of well funded organisations looking after the other groups here). We say what we think to be true and right, and to hell with the consequences in popularity or any other similar consideration. Also there is a genuine tradition in Ireland of a prayer been said before meetings, even IRA meetings in the past, and a very long tradition of that in political/legal institutions in Ireland (and England actually) going back many many centuries. So I would ask that we do the same here, and open and end face to face and other meetings with a short Hail Mary (which obviously nobody has to join in with if they don't want to). So its just an organisation which would put out a statement now and again (there would no need for any other web structure than just a forum on here if need be to publish the statements) saying that this pornography shouldn't be taught in the schools, or this protest is been organised against this IPAS centre please come to it, whatever, and maybe it could evolve into something bigger as time goes on. (If we do get another pandemic for example, it would have to try and advise people, at least a little, on taking vaccines and wearing masks, and if we were to oppose it it could build a bit of solidarity among us.) For example here is a simple thing, we could try and organise some kind of rudimentary welfare system, even soup kitchens or something, or some aid to the homeless. You might say why, when you have so many charitable institutions already? Because Irish people are at the end of a long queue at these places now, this would be focused on Irish people if we could do so. I propose a motto as well, 'Do cum glóire Dé agus Onóra na hÉireann', which is obviously a famous Irish motto used very extensively for media outlets and organisations here in the past. It is said that it was used first by Michael O'Cleirigh, the compiler of the Annals of the Four Masters about 1636, saying he did that 'For the Glory of God, and the Honour of Ireland'. Just a few thoughts anyway... [/QUOTE]
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