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<blockquote data-quote="it_is_what_it_is" data-source="post: 129288" data-attributes="member: 4233"><p>I have read so much of it already lad. I am versed in the history of the germans and the time, as well as so many a peoples history, I spend hours daily listening and reading.</p><p></p><p>Look, more direct to on of your points, Hitler did not give a fiddle about the polish either after Pilsudski died, it had complete notions after that to be fair. No one gave a fiddle about poland at that point outside using them for their own gains, where you see this time and again throughout history. We are seeing such right now on mass regards the Ukrainians dying on mass. Fools led to the slaughter by wolves in sheeps clothing. The cycles repeat. Even today I was listening to the hmong people and their response to the communist vietnam incursions against them, where it was never about communism regards the vietnam and their war in the area, they were always a group that used and abused others in the region, where the devil in the region was that which had no place there in the first place, the foreign, the americans, the vietnamese and the communist foreign concepts that scrambled the brains of the place otherwise.</p><p></p><p>I understand the aspects of how the war came about, and why It was, I have been fascinated with such since I was a child, and I am not a young lad anymore. I know an awful amount on the subject, and many others.</p><p></p><p>The issue is that NS is associated completely with HH at the neck, and it does not matter if he had good concepts or ideals of such regards his actions, and who he ended up against regards the outcomes, if the outcomes ended up as him being the worst individual that has ever existed regards said outcomes and what said outcomes did to Europe then and still today, it is failure of immense proportions you are politically pushing politically. That is without question. If you lead a country down a path, and that path is not just the opposite of said ideals, and the opposite for all other ethnic groups in the continent for generations regards outcomes, you are a failure of monumentary proportions.</p><p></p><p>Forget the holocaustianty that was pushed in the the late 1960's onwards, such only added to it, where failure of insane proportions like that, which are still directing Europe today, is why NS is not sellable to a voting public, and what I care about in the now. NS is associated with HH, HH is associated with abject failure, and so NS is associated with abject failure. That is how the political works, and such has never been fixed, where these days I think of the political first regards all this stuff, and trying to wake up my people to the dangers of today, and getting them to vote themselves out of it, as mad as that sounds.</p><p></p><p>I will try take info from anyone who I think can help me on such. But regards the politics, pushing the name NS is pure poison in Europe. Where countries will take a bit of this or a bit of that, and mix it in with a bit of their own regards their peoples proclivities, is how it has been since the last world war regards a political movement, not forgetting the increasing outside influence on such that is the biggest problem.</p><p></p><p>I will get to the other lads rant against me another day or three, no idea why is is so aggressive against me, but to be fair it is an issue of posting and not being able to do these things in a face to face way and understand the actual nuance of a conversation, which is the default problem of such a medium that we use. To be fair, I used to be way worse, best let it leave a few days first.</p><p></p><p>Where I do need to put this in on the issue of Australia, it has been on me mind. A creation myth is core to a people. Australia is a country of a mix of Europeans that was brought one way or another there by the brits, and no one likes them even now, nor can you hark back to them really as an Aussie even if they were great in the now. They should never have been there. It is an outlier that has huge issues regards a creation myth, and why I can see a mad man like Joel going down that path, where he has been on it for a while, where again I do like him, but I think he and his friends are cracked not just mix matching a strong/hardlined political grouping of thought without getting stained by the results of actions of a certain individual in the end. Where again, I do not have such pressures on me, I am an Irish man, and this land is mine as an Irishman, blood and soil. I do not need NS, or any of it's baggage.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="it_is_what_it_is, post: 129288, member: 4233"] I have read so much of it already lad. I am versed in the history of the germans and the time, as well as so many a peoples history, I spend hours daily listening and reading. Look, more direct to on of your points, Hitler did not give a fiddle about the polish either after Pilsudski died, it had complete notions after that to be fair. No one gave a fiddle about poland at that point outside using them for their own gains, where you see this time and again throughout history. We are seeing such right now on mass regards the Ukrainians dying on mass. Fools led to the slaughter by wolves in sheeps clothing. The cycles repeat. Even today I was listening to the hmong people and their response to the communist vietnam incursions against them, where it was never about communism regards the vietnam and their war in the area, they were always a group that used and abused others in the region, where the devil in the region was that which had no place there in the first place, the foreign, the americans, the vietnamese and the communist foreign concepts that scrambled the brains of the place otherwise. I understand the aspects of how the war came about, and why It was, I have been fascinated with such since I was a child, and I am not a young lad anymore. I know an awful amount on the subject, and many others. The issue is that NS is associated completely with HH at the neck, and it does not matter if he had good concepts or ideals of such regards his actions, and who he ended up against regards the outcomes, if the outcomes ended up as him being the worst individual that has ever existed regards said outcomes and what said outcomes did to Europe then and still today, it is failure of immense proportions you are politically pushing politically. That is without question. If you lead a country down a path, and that path is not just the opposite of said ideals, and the opposite for all other ethnic groups in the continent for generations regards outcomes, you are a failure of monumentary proportions. Forget the holocaustianty that was pushed in the the late 1960's onwards, such only added to it, where failure of insane proportions like that, which are still directing Europe today, is why NS is not sellable to a voting public, and what I care about in the now. NS is associated with HH, HH is associated with abject failure, and so NS is associated with abject failure. That is how the political works, and such has never been fixed, where these days I think of the political first regards all this stuff, and trying to wake up my people to the dangers of today, and getting them to vote themselves out of it, as mad as that sounds. I will try take info from anyone who I think can help me on such. But regards the politics, pushing the name NS is pure poison in Europe. Where countries will take a bit of this or a bit of that, and mix it in with a bit of their own regards their peoples proclivities, is how it has been since the last world war regards a political movement, not forgetting the increasing outside influence on such that is the biggest problem. I will get to the other lads rant against me another day or three, no idea why is is so aggressive against me, but to be fair it is an issue of posting and not being able to do these things in a face to face way and understand the actual nuance of a conversation, which is the default problem of such a medium that we use. To be fair, I used to be way worse, best let it leave a few days first. Where I do need to put this in on the issue of Australia, it has been on me mind. A creation myth is core to a people. Australia is a country of a mix of Europeans that was brought one way or another there by the brits, and no one likes them even now, nor can you hark back to them really as an Aussie even if they were great in the now. They should never have been there. It is an outlier that has huge issues regards a creation myth, and why I can see a mad man like Joel going down that path, where he has been on it for a while, where again I do like him, but I think he and his friends are cracked not just mix matching a strong/hardlined political grouping of thought without getting stained by the results of actions of a certain individual in the end. Where again, I do not have such pressures on me, I am an Irish man, and this land is mine as an Irishman, blood and soil. I do not need NS, or any of it's baggage. [/QUOTE]
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