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<blockquote data-quote="Fishalt" data-source="post: 132837" data-attributes="member: 228"><p>What's the point? I rarely bother to counter Tiger for the same reason I don't bother trying to dissuade Plunkett from his flat earth convictions. No point arguing with zealots and theological demagogues. I've heard it all before, they never argue in good faith, and frankly I find it all boring. In his heart of hearts, Tiger knows he's wormfood like the rest of us. I suspect they all do.</p><p></p><p>Faith is a personal choice, and I have no real issue with it as long as it doesn't become malignant--which in Tiger's case it has. People like Tiger have all and/or any number of private reasons for faith subscriptions, great and small, and pathologies underwriting their religious fervency. I have friends who are catholic, they're fine people. If I have to live in a world in which Religion persists, and I will, I'd prefer it to be Christianity, and I'd prefer the brand of it to be Catholicism. I've met enough Pentecostals, Baptists, and Anglicans to have formed a preference. A large part of Western values have been formed by Christian morality, and I suspect that the threat of hell and promise of heaven is all that keeps people like Tiger from taking an axe to their neighbours. They must be prevented from attaining too much power, however, because if they had remit unbound they'd take an axe to their neighbours on theological grounds via a pathway of some warped morality. They'd be no different from ISIS. Zip would probably welcome the return of witch trials, for example. Unfortunately, there's still far too many of our species that are far too money-brained to exercise compassion and general decency without carrots and sticks.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fishalt, post: 132837, member: 228"] What's the point? I rarely bother to counter Tiger for the same reason I don't bother trying to dissuade Plunkett from his flat earth convictions. No point arguing with zealots and theological demagogues. I've heard it all before, they never argue in good faith, and frankly I find it all boring. In his heart of hearts, Tiger knows he's wormfood like the rest of us. I suspect they all do. Faith is a personal choice, and I have no real issue with it as long as it doesn't become malignant--which in Tiger's case it has. People like Tiger have all and/or any number of private reasons for faith subscriptions, great and small, and pathologies underwriting their religious fervency. I have friends who are catholic, they're fine people. If I have to live in a world in which Religion persists, and I will, I'd prefer it to be Christianity, and I'd prefer the brand of it to be Catholicism. I've met enough Pentecostals, Baptists, and Anglicans to have formed a preference. A large part of Western values have been formed by Christian morality, and I suspect that the threat of hell and promise of heaven is all that keeps people like Tiger from taking an axe to their neighbours. They must be prevented from attaining too much power, however, because if they had remit unbound they'd take an axe to their neighbours on theological grounds via a pathway of some warped morality. They'd be no different from ISIS. Zip would probably welcome the return of witch trials, for example. Unfortunately, there's still far too many of our species that are far too money-brained to exercise compassion and general decency without carrots and sticks. [/QUOTE]
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