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<blockquote data-quote="Diarmuid" data-source="post: 149193" data-attributes="member: 5762"><p>Booklet review: “<a href="https://www.verlag-anton-schmid.de/221-woher-stammt-der-islam.html" target="_blank">Islam and Judaism</a>,” by P. Curzio Nitoglia. 1996</p><p></p><p>The booklet is a summary of a massive book by P Théry (aka Hannah Zacharias) published first in 1955 with the title <em>From Moses to Mohammed </em>and now not available. Théry was a Catholic priest, member of the Papal Academy, professor at the Catholic Institute in Paris and a member of the historical department of the Holy Congregation. He died just before the second Vatican Council. The book was written as part of his priestly duties. It seems to be the case that his work has never been contradicted by the Pope or other princes of the church, so it stands that the <em>official Catholic historical view of Islam</em> is that it is a golem religion invented and pushed by devious, Jesus-hating Jewish rabbis. Wouldn’t it be good if more of the world’s billion or so Catholics became aware of this aspect of their faith?</p><p>Nitoglia sums up the work of Théry in five points:</p><p>1.Islam is nothing other than a post-Christian Jewish religion as explained by a rabbi.</p><p>2. Mohammed was pushed towards Judaism by his Jewish born wife Khadidja and helped by the rabbi of Mecca.</p><p>3. The Koran was put together by the rabbis of Mecca.</p><p>4. The original Koran was a shortened Arabic translation of the Pentatuech – the first five books of the Old Testament. It was <em>lost</em> after Mohammed’s death! If true, this is remarkably suspicious. After conquering all of Arabia with this new religion, how could the orginal Koran just go missing? He offers quotes from the new Koran as proof of the existence of the previous Koran: Sura 20,112 speaks of an Arabic translation and Sura 15, 86-87 mentions two previous written teachings.</p><p>5. The Koran is noticeably anti-Christian, precisely because it was written by a rabbi.</p><p></p><p>There were lots of Jews in Arabia back then, in the oases as well as the three cities of Mecca. Medina and Taif. In Medina, Jews were the majority. Most people were pagans and there were some Christian groups. It is suggested that a clever rabbi, well versed in Talmud, devised Islam as a simplified, Arabised Judaism to control the pagans and also prevent them converting to Christianity. Mohammed was selected as a plausible speaker.</p><p>He suggests that Mohammed broke with Judaism on ethnic grounds and absolutely not on religious grounds. “The historic place of the Revelation was moved from Jerusalem to Mecca.”</p><p>He notes that constant Holy War against the unbelievers is one of Islam’s holiest duties, but omits to draw the comparison with the Talmud’s similar injunctions to Jews.</p><p>“Why shouldn’t one be concerned given the increasing millions and millions of Muslims settling in (formerly) Christian Europe who want to islamize it?” He notes that some foolish Christians seek to find friendly references to Christianity in the Koran and he urges caution.</p><p>The writer lists a dozen or so other writers, Jews and non-Jews, who support the conclusion of a very intimate link and friendship between the two wings of the Judaeo-Islamic bird.</p><p>He quotes Israel Shahak: “Judaism is permeated with a deepseated hatred of Christianity […] In contrast, Judaism’s attitude to Islam is relatively benevolent.”</p><p>Omissions include the remarkable Judaeo-Islamic similarities with regards to lying, stealing, raping and murdering non-believers. Israel Shahak details the enthusiastic encouragement the Talmud gives for such activities. The Koran details numerous occasions where Mohammed, blessed be his name, personally engages in war crimes, as part of his day job as a war lord and treasure enthusiast. If you ever want to tease a Muslim friend, ask them what happened to<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asma_bint_Marwan" target="_blank"> Marwan’s daughter</a>? She wrote some satirical poems about Mohammed, blessed be his name, and you can probably guess what happened to her… Perhaps the author did not want to attract extra controversy?</p><p>He says the Israel-Palestine conflict is not a Jewish-Muslim conflict. He quotes Lebanese christian militia leader Jocelyne Khoueiry as saying that the US and Israelis agreed to solve the Palestinian problem by giving them Lebannon and allowing the Lebanese Christians to emigrate to the US. Yassir Arafat and Hamas spokesman Mahmud El Adhar are quoted as saying the Muslims have no problem with their Jewish “cousins”.</p><p>“Judaism and Islam are always ready (even today) to band together to destroy Christianity.”</p><p>He ends by warning of Judaeo-Masonic infiltration of the Roman Catholic Church and the Judaisation of the Christian milieu.</p><hr /><p>Notes:</p><p>First published in French and Italian in <em>Sodalitum</em> (1996), magazine of Institut Mater Boni Consilii, Italy. Translated by Johannes Rothkranz and published as “Woher stammt der Islam?” by Verlag Anton A. Schmid (1998).</p><p>The Jewish Islam theory is not a fringe belief: The authors below include professors from Princeton and other halls of learning and the father of former British prime minister Boris Johnson.</p><p>Bernard Lazare, <em>Antisemitism</em> 1969, Bernard Lewis “la Rinascita Islamica” 1991,V Messori “Pensare la storia” 1992, Abraham Geiger “Was hat Mohammed agus den Judenthume aufgenommen?” 1833, P Crone/M Cook “Magarism:The making of the Islamic world” 1977, Rosenthal “Judaism and Islam” 1961, Katsh “Judaism in Islam” 1962, Gotein “Studies in Islamic History” 1966 and “Ebrei e Arabi nella storia” 1980, Cohen “The Jewish self government in medieval Egypt, P Johnson “History of the Jews” 1987, L Sestrieri “Gli Ebrei nella storia di trí milleni”1980, J Bouman “Il Corano e gli Ebrei” 1992, S Noja “Maometo profeta dell’islam” 1974</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Diarmuid, post: 149193, member: 5762"] Booklet review: “[URL='https://www.verlag-anton-schmid.de/221-woher-stammt-der-islam.html']Islam and Judaism[/URL],” by P. Curzio Nitoglia. 1996 The booklet is a summary of a massive book by P Théry (aka Hannah Zacharias) published first in 1955 with the title [I]From Moses to Mohammed [/I]and now not available. Théry was a Catholic priest, member of the Papal Academy, professor at the Catholic Institute in Paris and a member of the historical department of the Holy Congregation. He died just before the second Vatican Council. The book was written as part of his priestly duties. It seems to be the case that his work has never been contradicted by the Pope or other princes of the church, so it stands that the [I]official Catholic historical view of Islam[/I] is that it is a golem religion invented and pushed by devious, Jesus-hating Jewish rabbis. Wouldn’t it be good if more of the world’s billion or so Catholics became aware of this aspect of their faith? Nitoglia sums up the work of Théry in five points: 1.Islam is nothing other than a post-Christian Jewish religion as explained by a rabbi. 2. Mohammed was pushed towards Judaism by his Jewish born wife Khadidja and helped by the rabbi of Mecca. 3. The Koran was put together by the rabbis of Mecca. 4. The original Koran was a shortened Arabic translation of the Pentatuech – the first five books of the Old Testament. It was [I]lost[/I] after Mohammed’s death! If true, this is remarkably suspicious. After conquering all of Arabia with this new religion, how could the orginal Koran just go missing? He offers quotes from the new Koran as proof of the existence of the previous Koran: Sura 20,112 speaks of an Arabic translation and Sura 15, 86-87 mentions two previous written teachings. 5. The Koran is noticeably anti-Christian, precisely because it was written by a rabbi. There were lots of Jews in Arabia back then, in the oases as well as the three cities of Mecca. Medina and Taif. In Medina, Jews were the majority. Most people were pagans and there were some Christian groups. It is suggested that a clever rabbi, well versed in Talmud, devised Islam as a simplified, Arabised Judaism to control the pagans and also prevent them converting to Christianity. Mohammed was selected as a plausible speaker. He suggests that Mohammed broke with Judaism on ethnic grounds and absolutely not on religious grounds. “The historic place of the Revelation was moved from Jerusalem to Mecca.” He notes that constant Holy War against the unbelievers is one of Islam’s holiest duties, but omits to draw the comparison with the Talmud’s similar injunctions to Jews. “Why shouldn’t one be concerned given the increasing millions and millions of Muslims settling in (formerly) Christian Europe who want to islamize it?” He notes that some foolish Christians seek to find friendly references to Christianity in the Koran and he urges caution. The writer lists a dozen or so other writers, Jews and non-Jews, who support the conclusion of a very intimate link and friendship between the two wings of the Judaeo-Islamic bird. He quotes Israel Shahak: “Judaism is permeated with a deepseated hatred of Christianity […] In contrast, Judaism’s attitude to Islam is relatively benevolent.” Omissions include the remarkable Judaeo-Islamic similarities with regards to lying, stealing, raping and murdering non-believers. Israel Shahak details the enthusiastic encouragement the Talmud gives for such activities. The Koran details numerous occasions where Mohammed, blessed be his name, personally engages in war crimes, as part of his day job as a war lord and treasure enthusiast. If you ever want to tease a Muslim friend, ask them what happened to[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asma_bint_Marwan'] Marwan’s daughter[/URL]? She wrote some satirical poems about Mohammed, blessed be his name, and you can probably guess what happened to her… Perhaps the author did not want to attract extra controversy? He says the Israel-Palestine conflict is not a Jewish-Muslim conflict. He quotes Lebanese christian militia leader Jocelyne Khoueiry as saying that the US and Israelis agreed to solve the Palestinian problem by giving them Lebannon and allowing the Lebanese Christians to emigrate to the US. Yassir Arafat and Hamas spokesman Mahmud El Adhar are quoted as saying the Muslims have no problem with their Jewish “cousins”. “Judaism and Islam are always ready (even today) to band together to destroy Christianity.” He ends by warning of Judaeo-Masonic infiltration of the Roman Catholic Church and the Judaisation of the Christian milieu. [HR][/HR] Notes: First published in French and Italian in [I]Sodalitum[/I] (1996), magazine of Institut Mater Boni Consilii, Italy. Translated by Johannes Rothkranz and published as “Woher stammt der Islam?” by Verlag Anton A. Schmid (1998). The Jewish Islam theory is not a fringe belief: The authors below include professors from Princeton and other halls of learning and the father of former British prime minister Boris Johnson. Bernard Lazare, [I]Antisemitism[/I] 1969, Bernard Lewis “la Rinascita Islamica” 1991,V Messori “Pensare la storia” 1992, Abraham Geiger “Was hat Mohammed agus den Judenthume aufgenommen?” 1833, P Crone/M Cook “Magarism:The making of the Islamic world” 1977, Rosenthal “Judaism and Islam” 1961, Katsh “Judaism in Islam” 1962, Gotein “Studies in Islamic History” 1966 and “Ebrei e Arabi nella storia” 1980, Cohen “The Jewish self government in medieval Egypt, P Johnson “History of the Jews” 1987, L Sestrieri “Gli Ebrei nella storia di trí milleni”1980, J Bouman “Il Corano e gli Ebrei” 1992, S Noja “Maometo profeta dell’islam” 1974 [/QUOTE]
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