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<blockquote data-quote="Tiger" data-source="post: 115845" data-attributes="member: 353"><p>Myles, the issue isn’t about whether Anglo-Irish elites are ‘allowed’ to hold key positions in Irish society. It’s about recognizing the deeper, historical power dynamics at play — a legacy of control that has persisted for centuries. There’s a generational distrust between certain elements of the Anglo-Irish elite and the Irish people, born out of centuries of colonial rule and oppression.</p><p></p><p>Figures like Peter Sutherland and Garret FitzGerald didn’t just happen to rise to prominence — their family roots in Scotland and England, tied to this colonial past, reflect a longstanding agenda that often clashed with true Irish self-determination.</p><p></p><p>Take institutions like Trinity College, which, for much of its history, served as a training ground for the Protestant Ascendancy. For centuries, it was closed off to Catholics, actively reinforcing a social hierarchy that kept control in the hands of a few. Even today, its legacy echoes in how certain power structures operate in Ireland. I imagine that we move in different circles Myles, because I’ve personally witnessed these people connected to newspapers like The Irish Times—openly brag about how their families have benefitted from this insider network for generations. It’s not some distant past; it’s a reality that lingers, as The Irish Times itself was founded as a voice for the Anglican Ascendancy in the 1800s, and it continues to serve the interests of those same power brokers.</p><p></p><p>Calling it ‘The Irish Times’ is a joke. A more fitting title would be ‘The Anglican Times’—because its history and its power structures were never about representing the Irish people.</p><p></p><p>As for deciding how patriotic someone is based upon their surname; that was merely an exercise in highlighting the fragile foundations that some people (who have the temerity to tell everyone else that they are not nationalists) are standing on, and that they themselves have questionable heritage.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tiger, post: 115845, member: 353"] Myles, the issue isn’t about whether Anglo-Irish elites are ‘allowed’ to hold key positions in Irish society. It’s about recognizing the deeper, historical power dynamics at play — a legacy of control that has persisted for centuries. There’s a generational distrust between certain elements of the Anglo-Irish elite and the Irish people, born out of centuries of colonial rule and oppression. Figures like Peter Sutherland and Garret FitzGerald didn’t just happen to rise to prominence — their family roots in Scotland and England, tied to this colonial past, reflect a longstanding agenda that often clashed with true Irish self-determination. Take institutions like Trinity College, which, for much of its history, served as a training ground for the Protestant Ascendancy. For centuries, it was closed off to Catholics, actively reinforcing a social hierarchy that kept control in the hands of a few. Even today, its legacy echoes in how certain power structures operate in Ireland. I imagine that we move in different circles Myles, because I’ve personally witnessed these people connected to newspapers like The Irish Times—openly brag about how their families have benefitted from this insider network for generations. It’s not some distant past; it’s a reality that lingers, as The Irish Times itself was founded as a voice for the Anglican Ascendancy in the 1800s, and it continues to serve the interests of those same power brokers. Calling it ‘The Irish Times’ is a joke. A more fitting title would be ‘The Anglican Times’—because its history and its power structures were never about representing the Irish people. As for deciding how patriotic someone is based upon their surname; that was merely an exercise in highlighting the fragile foundations that some people (who have the temerity to tell everyone else that they are not nationalists) are standing on, and that they themselves have questionable heritage. [/QUOTE]
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