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<blockquote data-quote="BelfastRatepayer" data-source="post: 142694" data-attributes="member: 5534"><p>Part 2:</p><p></p><p>The split erupted when Jim Reynolds, Justin's deputy leader, also decided he had had enough with Justin. He disliked his treatment of the National Organiser; he disliked his turn towards open NS politics and his rejection of electoral politics. He himself had also been banned from social media by Justin because he had insulted Mick O'Keeffe in a DM which was then leaked, so he felt betrayed by him. He'd also given Justin loads of money over the years which he just took and spent on himself.</p><p></p><p>Since there were no real elections in the NP for leader or any leadership positions, Reynolds and the national organiser wanted to find a way to remove Justin as leader. They found that in the constitution there was a clause that a meeting of the party's unelected "national directorate" (Which was just two people - Barrett and Reynolds) was considered valid if 50% of memebers attended, which suggested that just one person could pass decisions. So James Reynolds unilaterally, with consultation from opponents of Barrett, decided he could legally remove him as leader.</p><p></p><p>Internally it was felt in the party, among activists anyway, that Barrett was not delivering success and was taking them down a path towards pointless extremism and LARP. Some canvassing took place and most people seemed to agree with this course of action, or at least agreed in theory Justin must go. The idea that 2 people acted on a complete solo run with no support is clearly untrue. However of course there were many people who felt they hadn't been consulted on this critical matter, and were pissed off about that.</p><p></p><p>They did that. However, it was contested by Barrett and then they were back-and-forth with the Electoral Commission for 2 years and counting over this.</p><p></p><p>Once they'd decided Barrett had to go, they moved the party assets including gold to a different bank account. And Barrett claimed they'd "stolen" it. In truth they hadn't stolen it, they just removed him from accessing it. They later found out he was using the NP bank account to buy things for himself like a car. But at the time i don't think this was known -they simply wanted to remove him from accessing party funds as they'd "legally" removed him as leader. Justin Barrett then publicly said they'd stolen the party gold and expelled them; and the whole thing turned into a media furore.</p><p></p><p>The opponents of Barrett in the NP then took about a week to respond to the allegations he'd made. They then said what had happened, but for many people it was too late. Also loads of party members had no idea what was going on. Loads left. Some stayed, and took different sides.</p><p></p><p>The party social media was run by the anti-Barrett people, so they somewhat controlled that narrative.</p><p></p><p>Since then, the party has remained in this Electoral Commission purgatory where both Justin and James remain on the Register.</p><p></p><p>Politically, Justin set up Clann Éireann but still claimed to be NP leader. He subsequently decided he’d become openly National Socialist and pro-Hitler. Now his public output (online) is almost entirely talking about Adolf Hitler, Jews, the “holocaust” and so on. Meanwhile the NP is now de facto led by Patrick Quinlan, who was elected a councillor in July 2024. Its image has changed quite a lot and the party is now far younger and more urban than it previously was. Clann Éireann by contrast has some Irish supporters, who wear uniforms, but it’s mostly supported by non-Irish white nationalists online.</p><p></p><p>The Electoral Commission rejected both applications in 2024 to amend the register; leaving it as it was. They then accepted an application from the Quinlan-led NP in early 2025 to amend the register, thus removing Justin for good and confirming the new realities post-coup. However Justin appealed against this, and now they’re considering the appeal. We’ll wait to see what comes of it.</p><p></p><p>Practically I would say both Justin and the anti-Justin people have moved on in a significant way and it’s undeniable there are now two separate parties- Clann Éireann and the National Party. The former is NS and maybe the most extreme right-wing party in Ireland; the latter is far right but somewhat populist, and committed to electoralism as a strategy.</p><p></p><p>In my opinion, Justin won the early stage of the coup d'état scandal. He won the battle, but lost the war. Why? Because he decided he'd start dressing up in an SS overcoat and talk almost exclusively about Adolf Hitler. This, in my view, retrospectively made the coup seem justified as it seemed like the case that he had just lost his marbles and wasn't engaged in realistic politics anymore. Also the departure of Reynolds, oddly enough, seemed to strengthen the other side. Reynolds was a poor public speaker and was increasingly inclined towards moderation; whereas the NP is still a far right party. Reynolds wanted to be far more moderate, the NP anti-Barrett people wanted to reset to pre-2023 where the party was radical but not openly NS or pro-Hitler or anti-politics, and Barrett went off on his own direction which many (even pro-NS people) see as just mindlessly extreme and unpolitic.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BelfastRatepayer, post: 142694, member: 5534"] Part 2: The split erupted when Jim Reynolds, Justin's deputy leader, also decided he had had enough with Justin. He disliked his treatment of the National Organiser; he disliked his turn towards open NS politics and his rejection of electoral politics. He himself had also been banned from social media by Justin because he had insulted Mick O'Keeffe in a DM which was then leaked, so he felt betrayed by him. He'd also given Justin loads of money over the years which he just took and spent on himself. Since there were no real elections in the NP for leader or any leadership positions, Reynolds and the national organiser wanted to find a way to remove Justin as leader. They found that in the constitution there was a clause that a meeting of the party's unelected "national directorate" (Which was just two people - Barrett and Reynolds) was considered valid if 50% of memebers attended, which suggested that just one person could pass decisions. So James Reynolds unilaterally, with consultation from opponents of Barrett, decided he could legally remove him as leader. Internally it was felt in the party, among activists anyway, that Barrett was not delivering success and was taking them down a path towards pointless extremism and LARP. Some canvassing took place and most people seemed to agree with this course of action, or at least agreed in theory Justin must go. The idea that 2 people acted on a complete solo run with no support is clearly untrue. However of course there were many people who felt they hadn't been consulted on this critical matter, and were pissed off about that. They did that. However, it was contested by Barrett and then they were back-and-forth with the Electoral Commission for 2 years and counting over this. Once they'd decided Barrett had to go, they moved the party assets including gold to a different bank account. And Barrett claimed they'd "stolen" it. In truth they hadn't stolen it, they just removed him from accessing it. They later found out he was using the NP bank account to buy things for himself like a car. But at the time i don't think this was known -they simply wanted to remove him from accessing party funds as they'd "legally" removed him as leader. Justin Barrett then publicly said they'd stolen the party gold and expelled them; and the whole thing turned into a media furore. The opponents of Barrett in the NP then took about a week to respond to the allegations he'd made. They then said what had happened, but for many people it was too late. Also loads of party members had no idea what was going on. Loads left. Some stayed, and took different sides. The party social media was run by the anti-Barrett people, so they somewhat controlled that narrative. Since then, the party has remained in this Electoral Commission purgatory where both Justin and James remain on the Register. Politically, Justin set up Clann Éireann but still claimed to be NP leader. He subsequently decided he’d become openly National Socialist and pro-Hitler. Now his public output (online) is almost entirely talking about Adolf Hitler, Jews, the “holocaust” and so on. Meanwhile the NP is now de facto led by Patrick Quinlan, who was elected a councillor in July 2024. Its image has changed quite a lot and the party is now far younger and more urban than it previously was. Clann Éireann by contrast has some Irish supporters, who wear uniforms, but it’s mostly supported by non-Irish white nationalists online. The Electoral Commission rejected both applications in 2024 to amend the register; leaving it as it was. They then accepted an application from the Quinlan-led NP in early 2025 to amend the register, thus removing Justin for good and confirming the new realities post-coup. However Justin appealed against this, and now they’re considering the appeal. We’ll wait to see what comes of it. Practically I would say both Justin and the anti-Justin people have moved on in a significant way and it’s undeniable there are now two separate parties- Clann Éireann and the National Party. The former is NS and maybe the most extreme right-wing party in Ireland; the latter is far right but somewhat populist, and committed to electoralism as a strategy. In my opinion, Justin won the early stage of the coup d'état scandal. He won the battle, but lost the war. Why? Because he decided he'd start dressing up in an SS overcoat and talk almost exclusively about Adolf Hitler. This, in my view, retrospectively made the coup seem justified as it seemed like the case that he had just lost his marbles and wasn't engaged in realistic politics anymore. Also the departure of Reynolds, oddly enough, seemed to strengthen the other side. Reynolds was a poor public speaker and was increasingly inclined towards moderation; whereas the NP is still a far right party. Reynolds wanted to be far more moderate, the NP anti-Barrett people wanted to reset to pre-2023 where the party was radical but not openly NS or pro-Hitler or anti-politics, and Barrett went off on his own direction which many (even pro-NS people) see as just mindlessly extreme and unpolitic. [/QUOTE]
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