The Anti-Mass Migration movement has to be at least partly about race, it is indeed Ireland for the Irish

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Recently Taoiseach Micheál Martin has stated that saying “Ireland for the Irish” is “tantamount to an incitement” to violence, explaining that:
“This is because there’s a narrative growing in this country which is trying to ‘other’ people because of their colour, their race, their creed.” (1)
This operated like a starting gun for numerous other commentators, some supposedly on our side on the anti-mass migration debate, who weighed in in opposition to this ‘racism’. For example Thomas Sheridan on twitter:
“The Patriot’s basic premise towards immigration: ‘If you come to Ireland from anywhere to assimilate and contribute you are welcome.’”
Maria Steen addressing Fingal County Council on the 12 Sept 2025, referring to immigrants to Ireland:
“...chosen to adopt Ireland as their country, some of them become citizens here, and they are Irish too, although they also may maintain, you know, their own, the citizenship of their birth, which of course is their right to do. So that’s, as far as I am concerned, what being Irish means.”
Captain Kieran Kelly, the Waterford fisherman who is much mentioned by the mainstream media in recent weeks, outlines his views here in a video he posted on his facebook page on the 22nd September 2025 (0:14-1:22):
“...[Received a message inviting him] to get on some type of podcast with Casey and Murphy and all these despicable characters. And of course some of the messages were saying that I was avoiding them or whatever. First of all, I won’t get on any discussion with people that are filled with hate.
Last week a very good friend of mine, her son was walking home. Young guy, the father of that kid is Italian, the mother she is Irish. The child born and raised in Ireland, Irish kid, 100% Irish. He was walking home and he was jumped on, racially attacked, and the slurs they used on that young man was unreal. Young man ended up in hospital, badly beaten, because of his skin colour.
The likes of that is being promoted by the likes of Casey, and his friends, and Justin Barrett, and these people with their white race and all that nonsense. That is not the way forward.”

In any case this has sparked quite an ongoing debate on the likes of twitter which thankfully has allowed many commentators to push back against this and say that we cannot be indifferent to race, we do indeed want Ireland for the Irish.(2) Anyway I just wanted to contribute to that debate a bit, starting with a discussion of why the globalists are pushing this ‘anti-racism’ line.


The abolition of national identity as part of the globalism push

Where we are at as a society, is that there is a group of people intent on creating a totalitarian one world government and as part of this they want to destroy nationalism in each country, because obviously nationalism is the kickback which would oppose the world government.

But, you might ask, if they have as much control over the most powerful countries of the world now, which I and other commentators would say is true, then why not just invade all the other countries and set up your one world government now? Well in a way that was tried with Napoleon and then Hitler, who had conquered almost all of Europe at least, but there is a flaw in that strategy.

You can see the flaw if you watch a clip of the well known contemporary WWII film, Casablanca. In that you can see some French emigrés crowding over a piano and breaking into the Marseillaise. As I say its a contemporary film, its reported that some extras and actors were in tears for what it signified. It signified that, yes, you can roll tanks into a country and take it over like Germany did to France then, but thats only half the story. If the people of that country still retain that strong almost mystical sense of identity with their country, nationalism, then they will always fight back and hence Hitler only lasted in France a few years.

So that type of purely militaristic thinking is old hat, nowadays its recognised that what you need to do is degrade the sense of identity and nationalism over many decades in the target country and then when you eventually invade there will be no pushback, because you have sought and pulled out, as it were, the roots of nationalism, the very core of what causes people to identify with their country so strongly as to risk their lives in fighting an invader. You can see this articulated, for example, by the former KGB agent Yuri Bezmenov.(3)

So that is what the Globalists are now doing actually to all countries, but particularly those old proud nations of Europe which they might have thought would oppose them vigorously. So instead of a proud Frenchman standing over the great civilisation that they have brought to the word, whether it be Pascal or Descartes or whatever, now its all about Colonial exploitation and how France, like many European countries, tried to enslave the world etc etc.

Which brings us back to race. Imagine the scene now if you had some Parisian emigrés crowding over a piano after say a Russian invasion. The obvious point is that they probably aren’t French, they or their recent ancestors will have come from North or Central Africa or Asia or the Middle East or wherever. Frankly they don’t care what really happens to France, a country they might live or are even born in but are actually trained to, and hereditably prone to, despise. The Globalists know this very well, the number one way of degrading nationalism in a country is simply by expelling the natives somehow and replacing them by a mongrel polyglot of races with no identity to the target country.

Its not just that these immigrants will never really identify with the target country, but you will degrade the sense of nationalism among the remaining natives if you can push the idea that ‘the colour of your skin doesn’t matter’ and objecting to all this is ‘racism’. Look at it this way, picture an English person and ask yourself where does he get his sense of identity, what are the roots of nationalism there? Well maybe he gets a sense of pride watching some old BBC drama of a Jane Austen novel, as an example. He sees all the beautiful manners and manicured gardens and stately homes, and he might feel that England has contributed a lot to the world. Now imagine him looking at it and the host of that great house is black, and others Asian etc (as is now often the case with those films), does that matter? Does he feel the same way about it? Of course not, its just not him or his country anymore.

You can see how changing the race in a country and then pushing that into the faces of the remaining natives will, hopefully from the Globalist perspective, just collapse that persons sense of identity and nationalism. Also, contrary to all this talk of ‘diversity is our strength etc’, communities only really get together if they are of the same race, at least in the long term and during difficult times, diversifying away from one race will just collapse community spirit, and thats a good thing also from the Globalists perspective, because then it makes it easier for them to control communities.
 
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Naivety of people who think race should be removed from political questions

Its instructive I think sometimes to go back into history, or across into recent experiences in other countries, to look for a bit of wisdom on this question.

Ireland in 1641
When the 1641 Rebellion broke out in Ireland many of the Irish looked to the recent immigrants, the Scots, for support and comradeship in that battle against the English army. They had married into them sometimes in those decades, about 1610-1640, and thought that since the Scots had rebelled earlier against Charles 1st that they would be kinsmen in this new battle. Their naivety was quickly exposed, instead the Scottish government sent an army to Ireland to defend their relatives who had emigrated into Ulster, and the Irish in that province were to find out for the next four centuries or so that race, and religion, matters a lot more than the politics of the moment.

England
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England is a country that has been exposed to this Communist propaganda, that race doesn’t matter, for about two or three generations now, since the late 1950s. Over and over again, like in the 1970s when there was some pushback by the likes of Enoch Powell, they were told that to say otherwise was been ‘racist’ and generally a horrible thing to do or think. Well now, in 2025, we have vast throngs of English people putting up flags and talking about remigration because now, 70 or so years later, and Pakistani rape gangs and the likes of the Notting Hill Carnival depredations later, they discover that race really matters and they are just incompatible with the ones that have emigrated into there.

South Africa
Its something that is not talked about in Ireland much these days, but this country was certainly the most active anti-apartheid country in the world outside of Africa. Because Irish people put so much effort at that time into supporting that continent, whether it be via aid agencies, (at that time virtually all the biggest ones in the world were Irish, like Concern, Goal and Trocaire) or ad hoc aid efforts, like the huge Irish push to help the Africans in Biafra and of course the Ethiopians in their famine, or the ongoing voluntary massive help in building and manning schools, hospitals, orphanages and Churches the length and breadth of the continent, they took the side of the anti-apartheid movement and embraced it in a huge way. For example a number of workers in Dunne’s supermarket objected to handling South African produce, went on strike and were to be met on the same picket line outside the supermarket nearly three years later.

Anyway that movement was always about giving equal voting rights to everybody, one man one vote, it was a colour blind movement (in naive Ireland at any rate), it was anti-racist in a sense. Irish people were quite proud of their stance here, and hopeful and enthusiastic about the emerging ‘rainbow’ South Africa. That was to be a huge prosperous nation that embraced civil rights for all and everybody expected it to be a great success. Instead the whites there have been systematically oppressed, have no civil rights in practical terms, like any real say in the government, and have even had to endure systematic murders in rural areas and out of control rape statistics in other districts.

This came as a shock to many Irish people, for example Eoin Hand, the former Irish football manager, found out the hard way that it was all about race when he took up a job as a manager in Durban in South Africa just after apartheid:
“I suppose I was the guinea pig in the post apartheid era...1992...Basically the Zulus did not want a white coach, no matter what...The Zulus are a very proud nation, so they did not want a white coach....This particular night they surrounded me and I took an aggressive line saying: “Leave me alone I am a pro, I am Irish, I have got no political affiliations.”...the leader came right up to me...and said...“You will go or we will kill you.”” (4)

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Durban 2010 to 2023.

So we should learn from that experience and be sceptical when we hear about blacks from Africa, for example, telling us now they are as Irish as we are. The Boers in South Africa were there in some cases for 300 years or so, as were some French in Algeria for example, but little good it did them when the crunch came, basically they were the wrong race and therefore always foreigners in that continent.


Christianity

Time and again in this debate Christianity is thrown at you. Commentators, who in another breath extol their atheism and indeed contempt for the Catholic faith, will rush to assure you that embracing the foreigner is the only Christian thing to do. But what this amounts to is ‘a little knowledge is a dangerous thing,’ this is a complicated question and does not lend itself to simplistic sound bites.

The Old Testament, for example, is full of the sentiments of God about how you should fight to defend the land that he gave to a particular race, for example you get some of that sentiment here in Joshua 23:6-16:
“Only take courage, and be careful to observe all things that are written in the book of the law of Moses: and turn not aside from them neither to the right hand nor to the left: Lest after that you are come in among the Gentiles, who will remain among you, you should swear by the name of their gods, and serve them, and adore them: But cleave ye unto the Lord your God: as you have done until this day. And then the Lord God will take away before your eyes nations that are great and very strong, and no man shall be able to resist you. One of you shall chase a thousand men of the enemies: because the Lord your God himself will fight for you, as he hath promised.
....
But if you will embrace the errors of these nations that dwell among you, and make marriages with them, and join friendships: Know ye for a certainty that the Lord your God will not destroy them before your face, but they shall be a pit and a snare in your way, and a stumbling block at your side, and stakes in your eyes, till he take you away and destroy you from off this excellent land, which he hath given you.
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When you shall have transgressed the covenant of the Lord your God, which he hath made with you, and shall have served strange gods, and adored them: then shall the indignation of the Lord rise up quickly and speedily against you, and you shall be taken away from this excellent land, which he hath delivered to you. ” (5)

Its also very simplistic to say that Our Lord in the New Testament wants you to embrace and join up with everybody, irrespective of their race or religious beliefs, for example note this from Him as recorded in Luke 12:51-3:
“Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation. For there shall be from henceforth five in one house divided: three against two, and two against three. The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against his father, the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother, the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.” (6)

If you think about the various incidents over the centuries or feast days of the Church for example, you can see how this concept that the Catholic faith is ‘open borders’ is far from the truth. For example the feast day of the 30th of May is dedicated to St Joan of Arc. At the time when France was full of foreigners who were claiming bits of it here and there, God did not send down some prophet to tell them all to get along, and say that who politically controls France was somehow unimportant. Instead he sent a warrior to chop the heads off any who would challenge the right of the French people, through their king, to control France, which is the story of that saint in 1431.

Not long ago we celebrated the feast of the Holy Rosary on October 7th, the feast day being also dedicated to the victory of the Catholic armies (and particularly navy) at Lepanto in 1571. Again the Power from heaven was not directed to embracing or reaching out to the Muslims then so powerful in Europe, instead Our Lord’s graces and blessings, through the Rosary, were poured out onto those who took up arms to, in effect, kill the invaders.

The truth is that your race, and the hard fought right of it to control this island, are God given and you are supposed to defend it. While yes that should never stretch to not respecting the humanity of all humans, nonetheless traditionally that defence is understood to sometimes include killing or being killed in the endeavour, and the Catholic Church’s interpretation of the Law of God, and Christianity in general, has always supported that.


Conclusion

The powers that be, and their many ‘agents of influence’ within the anti-mass migration movement in Ireland, are very anxious to push this opinion on us now. The ‘Oh we are against some types of migration, but lets not be racists’ line, is pushed everywhere but thankfully is pushed back against as well. I actually think we have reached a consensus that this is about race, we are not indifferent when our National Schools or social events in the back of beyonds in this country have become where you try and spot the Irish person.

And I would urge all to have nothing to do with any new movement or party that isn’t clear as day on this issue, it absolutely is Ireland for the Irish, and we make no apologies for it.

by Brian Nugent, http://www.orwellianireland.com .
 
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"I love my daughters more than my cousins, my cousins more than my neighbors, my neighbors more than strangers, and strangers more than enemies. Therefore, I love the French people more. I have that right.

Then, I love Europeans more. And then, I love Westerners more. And then, among other countries, I love more those nations that are our allies and those that love our culture.

That seems like a good principle. And I think that already gives us a lot of responsibilities, and that if we carry out those responsibilities, we will have done a very good job."

Jean-Marie Le Pen
 

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I've said before that I don't like the word 'patriot', anyone can be a patriot, it's encompassed within civic nationalism. Tommy Robinson (who's not a nationalist, in fact, he's anti-nationalist) calls himself a 'patriot'
 

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Naivety of people who think race should be removed from political questions

Its instructive I think sometimes to go back into history, or across into recent experiences in other countries, to look for a bit of wisdom on this question. You know when the 1641 Rebellion broke out in Ireland many of the Irish looked to the recent immigrants, the Scots, for support and comradeship in that battle against the English army. They had married into them sometimes in those decades, about 1610-1640, and thought that since the Scots had rebelled earlier against Charles 1st that they would be kinsmen in this new battle. Their naivety was quickly exposed, instead the Scottish government sent an army to Ireland to defend their relatives who had emigrated into Ulster, and the Irish in that province were to find out for the next four centuries or so that race, and religion, matters a lot more than the politics of the moment.

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England is a country that has been exposed to this Communist propaganda, that race doesn’t matter, for about two or three generations now, since the late 1950s. Over and over again, like in the 1970s when there was some pushback by the likes of Enoch Powell, they were told that to say otherwise was been ‘racist’ and generally a horrible thing to do or think. Well now, in 2025, we have vast throngs of English people putting up flags and talking about remigration because now, 70 or so years later, and Pakistani rape gangs and the likes of the Notting Hill Carnival depredations later, they discover that race really matters and they are just incompatible with the ones that have emigrated into there.

Its something that is not talked about in Ireland much these days, but this country was certainly the most active anti-apartheid country in the world outside of Africa. Because Irish people put so much effort at that time into supporting that continent, whether it be via aid agencies, (at that time virtually all the biggest ones on the world were Irish, like Concern, Goal and Trocaire) or ad hoc aid efforts, like the huge Irish push to help the Africans in Biafra and of course the Ethiopians in their famine, or the ongoing voluntary massive help in building and manning schools, hospitals, orphanages and Churches the length and breadth of the continent, they took the side of the anti-apartheid movement and embraced it in a huge way. For example a number of workers in Dunne’s supermarket objected to handling South African produce, went on strike and were to be met on the same picket line outside the supermarket nearly three years later.

Anyway that movement was always about giving equal voting rights to everybody, one man one vote, it was a colour blind movement (in naive Ireland at any rate), it was anti-racist in a sense. Irish people were quite proud of their stance here, and hopeful and enthusiastic about the emerging ‘rainbow’ South Africa. That was to be a huge prosperous nation that embraced civil rights for all and everybody expected it to be a great success. Instead the whites there have been systematically oppressed, have no civil rights in practical terms, like any real say in the government, and have even had to endure systematic murders in rural areas and out of control rape statistics in other districts.

This came as a shock to many Irish people, for example Eoin Hand, the former Irish football manager, found out the hard way that it was all about race when he took up a job as a manager in Durban in South Africa just after apartheid:


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Durban 2010 to 2023.

So we should learn from that experience and be sceptical when we hear about blacks from Africa, for example, telling us now they are as Irish as we are. The Boers in South Africa were there in some cases for 300 years or so, as were some French in Algeria for example, but little good it did them when the crunch came, basically they were the wrong race and therefore always foreigners in that continent.


Christianity

Time and again in this debate Christianity is thrown at you. Commentators, who in another breath extol their atheism and indeed contempt for the Catholic faith, will rush to assure you that embracing the foreigner is the only Christian thing to do. But what this amounts to is ‘a little knowledge is a dangerous thing,’ this is a complicated question and does not lend itself to simplistic sound bites.

The Old Testament, for example, is full of the sentiments of God about how you should fight to defend the land that he gave to a particular race, for example you get some of that sentiment here in Joshua 23:6-16:


Its also very simplistic to say that Our Lord in the New Testament wants you to embrace and join up with everybody, irrespective of their race or religious beliefs, for example note this from Him as recorded in Luke 12:51-3:


If you think about the various incidents over the centuries or feast days of the Church for example, you can see how this concept that the Catholic faith is ‘open borders’ is far from the truth. For example the feast day of the 30th of May is dedicated to St Joan of Arc. At the time when France was full of foreigners who were claiming bits of it here and there, God did not send down some prophet to tell them all to get along, and say that who politically controls France was somehow unimportant. Instead he sent a warrior to chop the heads off any who would challenge the right of the French people, through their king, to control France, which is the story of that saint in 1431.

Not long ago we celebrated the feast of the Holy Rosary on October 7th, the feast day being also dedicated to the victory of the Catholic armies (and particularly navy) at Lepanto in 1571. Again the Power from heaven was not directed to embracing or reaching out to the Muslims then so powerful in Europe, instead Our Lord’s graces and blessings, through the Rosary, were poured out onto those who took up arms to, in effect, kill the invaders.

The truth is that your race, and the hard fought right of it to control this island, are God given and you are supposed to defend it. While yes that should never stretch to not respecting the humanity of all humans, nonetheless traditionally that defence is understood to sometimes include killing or being killed in the endeavour, and the Catholic Church’s interpretation of the Law of God, and Christianity in general, has always supported that.


Conclusion

The powers that be, and their many ‘agents of influence’ within the anti-mass migration movement in Ireland, are very anxious to push this opinion on us now. The ‘Oh we are against some types of migration, but lets not be racists’ line, is pushed everywhere but thankfully is pushed back against as well. I actually think we have reached a consensus that this is about race, we are not indifferent when our National Schools or social events in the back of beyonds in this country have become where you try and spot the Irish person.

And I would urge all to have nothing to do with any new movement or party that isn’t clear as day on this issue, it absolutely is Ireland for the Irish, and we make no apologies for it.

by Brian Nugent, http://www.orwellianireland.com .
I don't know who "extols" their atheism but the fact remains that questions need to be asked about your religion, whether that's from an anti-white like @Haven or a nationalist like me. The fact that you have to justify being a nationalist by scanning your holy book doesn't exactly inspire confidence
 

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I don't mind you questioning my religion at all but you need to know what it amounts to before commentating on it with any credibility? In my experience, most atheist Irish people know very little about what Catholicism or Christianity actually entails.
 

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Yes you are right AN2, for many people this debate is framed as 'Civic nationalism' versus I guess some would say 'ethnic nationalism'. Anyway I am against that kind of 'civic nationalism'.
 

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I don't mind you questioning my religion at all but you need to know what it amounts to before commentating on it with any credibility? In my experience, most atheist Irish people know very little about what Catholicism or Christianity actually entails.
I have tried to. I've asked what a "true" Christian would think about refugees welcome, race realism and so on. I don't expect any answers from you because you don't answer questions
 

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Yes you are right AN2, for many people this debate is framed as 'Civic nationalism' versus I guess some would say 'ethnic nationalism'. Anyway I am against that kind of 'civic nationalism'.
All you need to realise is that civic nationalism isn't nationalism and ethnic nationalism is
 

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But its unfair to expect to get a full education in the Catholic faith by asking an endless series of questions of me or Tiger or whoever? You have to study it, and at times its complicated and difficult.

It used to be said for example that people who were candidates for baptism, Catechumens, would have to spend many years studying Christianity before the Church agreed to baptise them. Anyway you could try by reading some catechism or book on theology, like for example some of these volumes by Arthur Preuss ( https://archive.org/details/bwb_P9-CBI-462/page/n9/mode/2up ), and then you can criticise us but hopefully from a position of some knowledge and wisdom therein!
 

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But its unfair to expect to get a full education in the Catholic faith by asking an endless series of questions of me or Tiger or whoever? You have to study it, and at times its complicated and difficult.

It used to be said for example that people who were candidates for baptism, Catechumens, would have to spend many years studying Christianity before the Church agreed to baptise them. Anyway you could try by reading some catechism or book on theology, like for example some of these volumes by Arthur Preuss ( https://archive.org/details/bwb_P9-CBI-462/page/n9/mode/2up ), and then you can criticise us but hopefully from a position of some knowledge and wisdom therein!
Tiger is a buffoon, a supreme example of soapbox duncery, he has absolutely no understanding of what a (two-way) discussion is

Secondly, why can't you answer a simple question? Your dodge here is to tell me that I first need to spend hours studying something that I have absolutely no interest in and also believe to be a creation of the human mind, in context, (a) false (prescription of God). Does that sound reasonable to you? 🤔
 

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If you are going to criticise it, surely you need to know what exactly you are criticising? Is that so unreasonable? If you were to have a go at a Mathematician, and tell him its all bunkum and in the debate tell him that 2+ 2 = 5, he isn't going to take you seriously is he?
 

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If you are going to criticise it, surely you need to know what exactly you are criticising? Is that so unreasonable? If you were to have a go at a Mathematician, and tell him its all bunkum and in the debate tell him that 2+ 2 = 5, he isn't going to take you seriously is he?
Sounds a bit like special pleading to me

I told you what I think it (Christianity) is, a religion, one of dozens, created by the human mind

I'm aware that you think that your God is proved (that was your premise for your Letter to Atheists thread) but that simply isn't the case
 

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Yes you are right AN2, for many people this debate is framed as 'Civic nationalism' versus I guess some would say 'ethnic nationalism'. Anyway I am against that kind of 'civic nationalism'.
Have you read Taylor Marshall’s new book - ‘Christian Patriot’ yet?

It’s very interesting. The term ‘Nationalist’ wasn’t in common use until the 20th century.
 

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