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Message: <blockquote data-quote="scolairebocht" data-source="post: 146589" data-attributes="member: 8">Naivety of people who think race should be removed from political questionsIts instructive I think sometimes to go back into history, or across into recent experiences in other countries, to look for a bit of wisdom on this question.Ireland in 1641When the 1641 Rebellion broke out in Ireland many of the Irish looked to the recent immigrants, the Scots, for support and comradeship in that battle against the English army. They had married into them sometimes in those decades, about 1610-1640, and thought that since the Scots had rebelled earlier against Charles 1st that they would be kinsmen in this new battle. Their naivety was quickly exposed, instead the Scottish government sent an army to Ireland to defend their relatives who had emigrated into Ulster, and the Irish in that province were to find out for the next four centuries or so that race, and religion, matters a lot more than the politics of the moment.England[ATTACH=full]8293[/ATTACH]England is a country that has been exposed to this Communist propaganda, that race doesn’t matter, for about two or three generations now, since the late 1950s. Over and over again, like in the 1970s when there was some pushback by the likes of Enoch Powell, they were told that to say otherwise was been ‘racist’ and generally a horrible thing to do or think. Well now, in 2025, we have vast throngs of English people putting up flags and talking about remigration because now, 70 or so years later, and Pakistani rape gangs and the likes of the Notting Hill Carnival depredations later, they discover that race really matters and they are just incompatible with the ones that have emigrated into there.South AfricaIts something that is not talked about in Ireland much these days, but this country was certainly the most active anti-apartheid country in the world outside of Africa. Because Irish people put so much effort at that time into supporting that continent, whether it be via aid agencies, (at that time virtually all the biggest ones in the world were Irish, like Concern, Goal and Trocaire) or ad hoc aid efforts, like the huge Irish push to help the Africans in Biafra and of course the Ethiopians in their famine, or the ongoing voluntary massive help in building and manning schools, hospitals, orphanages and Churches the length and breadth of the continent, they took the side of the anti-apartheid movement and embraced it in a huge way. For example a number of workers in Dunne’s supermarket objected to handling South African produce, went on strike and were to be met on the same picket line outside the supermarket nearly three years later.Anyway that movement was always about giving equal voting rights to everybody, one man one vote, it was a colour blind movement (in naive Ireland at any rate), it was anti-racist in a sense. Irish people were quite proud of their stance here, and hopeful and enthusiastic about the emerging ‘rainbow’ South Africa. That was to be a huge prosperous nation that embraced civil rights for all and everybody expected it to be a great success. Instead the whites there have been systematically oppressed, have no civil rights in practical terms, like any real say in the government, and have even had to endure systematic murders in rural areas and out of control rape statistics in other districts.This came as a shock to many Irish people, for example Eoin Hand, the former Irish football manager, found out the hard way that it was all about race when he took up a job as a manager in Durban in South Africa just after apartheid:[ATTACH=full]8292[/ATTACH]Durban 2010 to 2023.So we should learn from that experience and be sceptical when we hear about blacks from Africa, for example, telling us now they are as Irish as we are. The Boers in South Africa were there in some cases for 300 years or so, as were some French in Algeria for example, but little good it did them when the crunch came, basically they were the wrong race and therefore always foreigners in that continent.ChristianityTime and again in this debate Christianity is thrown at you. Commentators, who in another breath extol their atheism and indeed contempt for the Catholic faith, will rush to assure you that embracing the foreigner is the only Christian thing to do. But what this amounts to is ‘a little knowledge is a dangerous thing,’ this is a complicated question and does not lend itself to simplistic sound bites.The Old Testament, for example, is full of the sentiments of God about how you should fight to defend the land that he gave to a particular race, for example you get some of that sentiment here in Joshua 23:6-16:Its also very simplistic to say that Our Lord in the New Testament wants you to embrace and join up with everybody, irrespective of their race or religious beliefs, for example note this from Him as recorded in Luke 12:51-3:If you think about the various incidents over the centuries or feast days of the Church for example, you can see how this concept that the Catholic faith is ‘open borders’ is far from the truth. For example the feast day of the 30th of May is dedicated to St Joan of Arc. At the time when France was full of foreigners who were claiming bits of it here and there, God did not send down some prophet to tell them all to get along, and say that who politically controls France was somehow unimportant. Instead he sent a warrior to chop the heads off any who would challenge the right of the French people, through their king, to control France, which is the story of that saint in 1431.Not long ago we celebrated the feast of the Holy Rosary on October 7th, the feast day being also dedicated to the victory of the Catholic armies (and particularly navy) at Lepanto in 1571. Again the Power from heaven was not directed to embracing or reaching out to the Muslims then so powerful in Europe, instead Our Lord’s graces and blessings, through the Rosary, were poured out onto those who took up arms to, in effect, kill the invaders.The truth is that your race, and the hard fought right of it to control this island, are God given and you are supposed to defend it. While yes that should never stretch to not respecting the humanity of all humans, nonetheless traditionally that defence is understood to sometimes include killing or being killed in the endeavour, and the Catholic Church’s interpretation of the Law of God, and Christianity in general, has always supported that.ConclusionThe powers that be, and their many ‘agents of influence’ within the anti-mass migration movement in Ireland, are very anxious to push this opinion on us now. The ‘Oh we are against some types of migration, but lets not be racists’ line, is pushed everywhere but thankfully is pushed back against as well. I actually think we have reached a consensus that this is about race, we are not indifferent when our National Schools or social events in the back of beyonds in this country have become where you try and spot the Irish person.And I would urge all to have nothing to do with any new movement or party that isn’t clear as day on this issue, it absolutely is Ireland for the Irish, and we make no apologies for it.by Brian Nugent, <a href="http://www.orwellianireland.com" target="_blank">http://www.orwellianireland.com</a> .</blockquote>

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