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<blockquote data-quote="Wolf" data-source="post: 134817" data-attributes="member: 199"><p>It obviously still hasn't gotten the attention it craves from its daddy.<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite6" alt=":cool:" title="Cool :cool:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":cool:" /></p><p></p><p>Meanwhile, in the real world and not the Tank of Wank's delusional and perverted mind.......</p><p></p><h3>A new front: Russia expands into Ukraine to build a military buffer zone</h3><p>Putin’s buffer zone aims to create space – both literally and politically – from Ukraine’s firepower</p><p><img src="https://mf.b37mrtl.ru/files/2025.05/xxs/6830bf3785f5403d4e0e69b5.jpg" alt="A new front: Russia expands into Ukraine to build a military buffer zone" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p>FILE PHOTO. Russian servicemen of the group of forces ‘South’ take part in combat training at an unknown location. © Sputnik/Sergey Bobylev</p><p>Russian President Vladimir Putin has officially announced the establishment of a <em>“security buffer zone”</em> along the border with Ukraine. Russian troops, <a href="http://kremlin.ru/events/president/news/76982" target="_blank">according to</a> the Kremlin, have already been ordered to push ahead and are actively targeting Ukrainian military positions near the frontier. The move is aimed at protecting Russian regions far from the front line – particularly Belgorod, Bryansk, and Kursk – which have faced frequent shelling, drone strikes, as well as sabotage missions launched by Ukrainian forces.</p><p>While talk of such a zone has circulated since 2023, Putin’s declaration marks a shift from concept to concrete policy. Here’s what this decision means, what it could look like militarily, and why the Kremlin is pursuing it now.</p><h3>The long-waited announcement</h3><p>On May 22, during a government meeting, President Putin declared that Russia had begun establishing a buffer zone along the Ukrainian border. He said the military had already started implementing the plan: <em>“Our armed forces are actively carrying out this mission now. The enemy’s firing positions are suppressed, the work is going on”</em></p><p>Presidential spokesperson Dmitry Peskov confirmed the decision but declined to provide specifics, deferring to the Ministry of Defense. What is known is that the buffer zone will span areas bordering Ukraine in the Belgorod, Bryansk, and Kursk regions – all of which have suffered from Ukranian attacks.</p><p></p><p>From a military standpoint, a buffer (or <em>“sanitary”</em>) zone serves as a physical barrier meant to reduce the risk of direct clashes and provocations. These zones can be demilitarized, have restricted troop presence, or be fully occupied by military forces, functioning as a strategic cushion.</p><p>Historical parallels include Israel’s security zone in southern Lebanon (1985–2000), Türkiye’s cross-border operations in northern Syria (since 2016), the DMZ between North and South Korea (since 1953), and the so-called <em>“gray zones”</em> between Armenia and Azerbaijan prior to the 2020 Nagorno-Karabakh conflict.</p><p>Putin <a href="https://tass.ru/proisshestviya/17997099" target="_blank">hinted</a> at the need for such a zone as early as June 2023, citing the importance of denying Ukrainian forces the ability to strike Russian territory with artillery. Though details were vague at the time, the idea <a href="https://www.rbc.ru/politics/31/01/2024/65ba58849a79476b6322eb66" target="_blank">continued</a> to surface in official rhetoric.</p><p>Lawmakers and military analysts <a href="https://lenta.ru/news/2025/05/22/dlinu-bufernoy-zony/)" target="_blank">have voiced</a> support. The State Duma has proposed a buffer depth of at least 50–60 kilometers, equipped with air defenses and counter-drone systems. Dmitry Medvedev, Deputy Chairman of the Security Council, <a href="https://t.me/medvedev_telegram/495" target="_blank">suggested</a> that if Ukraine receives more long-range weapons, the zone might need to stretch even deeper – potentially up to 550–650 kilometers – to neutralize threats.</p><p>Meanwhile, Ukraine’s Foreign Ministry has <a href="https://zn.ua/war/v-mid-ukrainy-otvetili-na-zajavlenie-putina-o-sozdanii-bufernoj-zony.html" target="_blank">condemned</a> the initiative as a fresh escalation and called for increased international pressure on Moscow.</p><h3>Current battlefield conditions</h3><p>Militarily, establishing a buffer zone means expanding Russian control into Ukrainian territory.</p><p>The first signs of this appeared with Russian <a href="https://www.pnp.ru/social/armiya-rf-osvobodila-zhuravku-v-sumskoy-oblasti.html" target="_blank">reports</a> of capturing several villages in Ukraine’s Sumy region, including Maryino, Zhuravka, and Basovka – all close to the Kursk border.</p><p></p><p>Oleg Grygorov, head of the Sumy Regional Military Administration, acknowledged the sudden escalation, noting that Russian forces are employing small assault teams to entrench themselves in border villages.</p><p>As of late May, over 52,000 people had been evacuated from border areas. Ukraine began these evacuations weeks earlier, initially from Belopolye and Vorozhba villages, then <a href="https://www.gazeta.ru/social/news/2025/05/19/25819790.shtml" target="_blank">extending</a> to 202 localities.</p><p>Meanwhile Putin made a surprise visit to Kursk region on May 20 – his first since the fighting began there. During the trip, Pavel Zolotaryov, head of the Glushkovo District near the Ukrainian border, <a href="https://www.rbc.ru/rbcfreenews/682da4a49a79473385e184e0" target="_blank">urged</a> the president to take control of the city of Sumy to secure the area. Putin responded with a joke, noting that he had appointed Alexander Khinshtein as the new regional head because <em>“he also wants more, more.”</em></p><p>Fighting is not limited to Sumy. Intense battles are also ongoing in Kharkov region near Kupyansk. Still, the scale of the current offensive doesn’t suggest an all-out operation aimed at encirclement. Instead, Russian advances appear slow and steady – likely designed to drain Ukrainian reserves and gradually expand control without making bold, risky moves.</p><h3>The strategic rationale</h3><p>There are several military and political motivations behind the timing of this push.</p><p><strong>1. Escalating cross-border threats:</strong></p><p>Since spring 2023, attacks on Russian soil have intensified. Ukraine has <a href="https://lenta.ru/news/2025/03/04/aid-ukr/" target="_blank">received</a> long-range Western weapons, including HIMARS, Storm Shadow missiles, and ATACMS. Cross-border shelling of Russian towns by tube artillery and multiple launch rocket systems (MLRS) has been relentless. Kiev's M777 howitzers, with their 155mm caliber, have a firing range of up to 35–40 kilometers – and that’s roughly the distance separating major Ukrainian cities like Sumy and Kharkov from the Russian border.</p><p>Ukraine also relies heavily on drones and sabotage teams to penetrate Russian territory. There have been <a href="https://www.vedomosti.ru/politics/articles/2025/05/23/1112160-chto-izvestno-o-masshtabnoi-atake-bespilotnikov" target="_blank">drone attacks</a> deep inside Russia – including in Moscow – and armed <a href="https://www.rbc.ru/politics/10/08/2024/66b695149a7947393ae67448" target="_blank">incursions</a> into border regions. These factors likely convinced Russian leadership of the need to push the front line further from its cities.</p><p>Putin has directly linked the buffer’s depth to the range of Ukraine’s foreign-supplied weapons – essentially saying: the farther they can reach, the deeper Russia will go to stay out of range.</p><p></p><p><strong>2. Leverage in negotiations:</strong></p><p>This initiative may also be a tactical move to strengthen Russia’s hand in ongoing talks. A security buffer could be proposed as part of a broader ceasefire deal or even as a condition for halting the war. US envoy Keith Kellogg has <a href="https://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/23870619" target="_blank">floated</a> the idea of a demilitarized zone, though Ukrainian Vladimir Zelensky <a href="https://www.rbc.ru/politics/10/05/2025/681f64849a79473d1c54ed67" target="_blank">has rejected</a> any such arrangement. Still, the creation of a buffer could be on Russia’s wish list in any future peace talks – effectively demilitarizing parts of Sumy, Chernigov, or Kharkov regions.</p><p><strong>3. Long-term strategy:</strong></p><p>Finally, the buffer zone fits within Russia’s broader approach to a prolonged war of attrition. Despite participating in negotiations, Moscow continues to signal its commitment to offensive operations. The buffer serves as both a tactical asset and a long-term defensive measure to shield vulnerable border areas.</p><h3>What’s next?</h3><p>From a military standpoint, creating a buffer zone is a logical move. Shifting the front 20–30 kilometers deeper into Ukraine would place major Russian cities like Belgorod and Kursk out of range for many artillery systems. It would also block infiltration routes for Ukrainian saboteurs and complicate drone operations.</p><p>Controlling more territory also disrupts enemy surveillance: the farther Ukrainian drones and recon units must travel, the less accurate and timely their data becomes.</p><p>But pushing deeper brings challenges. Each new advance demands expanded supply lines, new logistics hubs, air defenses, and engineering infrastructure – all while frontline troops remain exposed to air and artillery strikes. The burden on reserves grows, and the margin for error shrinks.</p><p>Fighting in Sumy and Kharkov continues at a measured pace. Should Russian forces manage to capture significant portions of these regions, major urban centers like Sumy and Chernigov – each home to hundreds of thousands – could fall within operational reach. Their vulnerability might prove a powerful bargaining chip in future negotiations.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Wolf, post: 134817, member: 199"] It obviously still hasn't gotten the attention it craves from its daddy.:cool: Meanwhile, in the real world and not the Tank of Wank's delusional and perverted mind....... [HEADING=2]A new front: Russia expands into Ukraine to build a military buffer zone[/HEADING] Putin’s buffer zone aims to create space – both literally and politically – from Ukraine’s firepower [IMG alt="A new front: Russia expands into Ukraine to build a military buffer zone"]https://mf.b37mrtl.ru/files/2025.05/xxs/6830bf3785f5403d4e0e69b5.jpg[/IMG] FILE PHOTO. Russian servicemen of the group of forces ‘South’ take part in combat training at an unknown location. © Sputnik/Sergey Bobylev Russian President Vladimir Putin has officially announced the establishment of a [I]“security buffer zone”[/I] along the border with Ukraine. Russian troops, [URL='http://kremlin.ru/events/president/news/76982']according to[/URL] the Kremlin, have already been ordered to push ahead and are actively targeting Ukrainian military positions near the frontier. The move is aimed at protecting Russian regions far from the front line – particularly Belgorod, Bryansk, and Kursk – which have faced frequent shelling, drone strikes, as well as sabotage missions launched by Ukrainian forces. While talk of such a zone has circulated since 2023, Putin’s declaration marks a shift from concept to concrete policy. Here’s what this decision means, what it could look like militarily, and why the Kremlin is pursuing it now. [HEADING=2]The long-waited announcement[/HEADING] On May 22, during a government meeting, President Putin declared that Russia had begun establishing a buffer zone along the Ukrainian border. He said the military had already started implementing the plan: [I]“Our armed forces are actively carrying out this mission now. The enemy’s firing positions are suppressed, the work is going on”[/I] Presidential spokesperson Dmitry Peskov confirmed the decision but declined to provide specifics, deferring to the Ministry of Defense. What is known is that the buffer zone will span areas bordering Ukraine in the Belgorod, Bryansk, and Kursk regions – all of which have suffered from Ukranian attacks. From a military standpoint, a buffer (or [I]“sanitary”[/I]) zone serves as a physical barrier meant to reduce the risk of direct clashes and provocations. These zones can be demilitarized, have restricted troop presence, or be fully occupied by military forces, functioning as a strategic cushion. Historical parallels include Israel’s security zone in southern Lebanon (1985–2000), Türkiye’s cross-border operations in northern Syria (since 2016), the DMZ between North and South Korea (since 1953), and the so-called [I]“gray zones”[/I] between Armenia and Azerbaijan prior to the 2020 Nagorno-Karabakh conflict. Putin [URL='https://tass.ru/proisshestviya/17997099']hinted[/URL] at the need for such a zone as early as June 2023, citing the importance of denying Ukrainian forces the ability to strike Russian territory with artillery. Though details were vague at the time, the idea [URL='https://www.rbc.ru/politics/31/01/2024/65ba58849a79476b6322eb66']continued[/URL] to surface in official rhetoric. Lawmakers and military analysts [URL='https://lenta.ru/news/2025/05/22/dlinu-bufernoy-zony/)']have voiced[/URL] support. The State Duma has proposed a buffer depth of at least 50–60 kilometers, equipped with air defenses and counter-drone systems. Dmitry Medvedev, Deputy Chairman of the Security Council, [URL='https://t.me/medvedev_telegram/495']suggested[/URL] that if Ukraine receives more long-range weapons, the zone might need to stretch even deeper – potentially up to 550–650 kilometers – to neutralize threats. Meanwhile, Ukraine’s Foreign Ministry has [URL='https://zn.ua/war/v-mid-ukrainy-otvetili-na-zajavlenie-putina-o-sozdanii-bufernoj-zony.html']condemned[/URL] the initiative as a fresh escalation and called for increased international pressure on Moscow. [HEADING=2]Current battlefield conditions[/HEADING] Militarily, establishing a buffer zone means expanding Russian control into Ukrainian territory. The first signs of this appeared with Russian [URL='https://www.pnp.ru/social/armiya-rf-osvobodila-zhuravku-v-sumskoy-oblasti.html']reports[/URL] of capturing several villages in Ukraine’s Sumy region, including Maryino, Zhuravka, and Basovka – all close to the Kursk border. Oleg Grygorov, head of the Sumy Regional Military Administration, acknowledged the sudden escalation, noting that Russian forces are employing small assault teams to entrench themselves in border villages. As of late May, over 52,000 people had been evacuated from border areas. Ukraine began these evacuations weeks earlier, initially from Belopolye and Vorozhba villages, then [URL='https://www.gazeta.ru/social/news/2025/05/19/25819790.shtml']extending[/URL] to 202 localities. Meanwhile Putin made a surprise visit to Kursk region on May 20 – his first since the fighting began there. During the trip, Pavel Zolotaryov, head of the Glushkovo District near the Ukrainian border, [URL='https://www.rbc.ru/rbcfreenews/682da4a49a79473385e184e0']urged[/URL] the president to take control of the city of Sumy to secure the area. Putin responded with a joke, noting that he had appointed Alexander Khinshtein as the new regional head because [I]“he also wants more, more.”[/I] Fighting is not limited to Sumy. Intense battles are also ongoing in Kharkov region near Kupyansk. Still, the scale of the current offensive doesn’t suggest an all-out operation aimed at encirclement. Instead, Russian advances appear slow and steady – likely designed to drain Ukrainian reserves and gradually expand control without making bold, risky moves. [HEADING=2]The strategic rationale[/HEADING] There are several military and political motivations behind the timing of this push. [B]1. Escalating cross-border threats:[/B] Since spring 2023, attacks on Russian soil have intensified. Ukraine has [URL='https://lenta.ru/news/2025/03/04/aid-ukr/']received[/URL] long-range Western weapons, including HIMARS, Storm Shadow missiles, and ATACMS. Cross-border shelling of Russian towns by tube artillery and multiple launch rocket systems (MLRS) has been relentless. Kiev's M777 howitzers, with their 155mm caliber, have a firing range of up to 35–40 kilometers – and that’s roughly the distance separating major Ukrainian cities like Sumy and Kharkov from the Russian border. Ukraine also relies heavily on drones and sabotage teams to penetrate Russian territory. There have been [URL='https://www.vedomosti.ru/politics/articles/2025/05/23/1112160-chto-izvestno-o-masshtabnoi-atake-bespilotnikov']drone attacks[/URL] deep inside Russia – including in Moscow – and armed [URL='https://www.rbc.ru/politics/10/08/2024/66b695149a7947393ae67448']incursions[/URL] into border regions. These factors likely convinced Russian leadership of the need to push the front line further from its cities. Putin has directly linked the buffer’s depth to the range of Ukraine’s foreign-supplied weapons – essentially saying: the farther they can reach, the deeper Russia will go to stay out of range. [B]2. Leverage in negotiations:[/B] This initiative may also be a tactical move to strengthen Russia’s hand in ongoing talks. A security buffer could be proposed as part of a broader ceasefire deal or even as a condition for halting the war. US envoy Keith Kellogg has [URL='https://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/23870619']floated[/URL] the idea of a demilitarized zone, though Ukrainian Vladimir Zelensky [URL='https://www.rbc.ru/politics/10/05/2025/681f64849a79473d1c54ed67']has rejected[/URL] any such arrangement. Still, the creation of a buffer could be on Russia’s wish list in any future peace talks – effectively demilitarizing parts of Sumy, Chernigov, or Kharkov regions. [B]3. Long-term strategy:[/B] Finally, the buffer zone fits within Russia’s broader approach to a prolonged war of attrition. Despite participating in negotiations, Moscow continues to signal its commitment to offensive operations. The buffer serves as both a tactical asset and a long-term defensive measure to shield vulnerable border areas. [HEADING=2]What’s next?[/HEADING] From a military standpoint, creating a buffer zone is a logical move. Shifting the front 20–30 kilometers deeper into Ukraine would place major Russian cities like Belgorod and Kursk out of range for many artillery systems. It would also block infiltration routes for Ukrainian saboteurs and complicate drone operations. Controlling more territory also disrupts enemy surveillance: the farther Ukrainian drones and recon units must travel, the less accurate and timely their data becomes. But pushing deeper brings challenges. Each new advance demands expanded supply lines, new logistics hubs, air defenses, and engineering infrastructure – all while frontline troops remain exposed to air and artillery strikes. The burden on reserves grows, and the margin for error shrinks. Fighting in Sumy and Kharkov continues at a measured pace. Should Russian forces manage to capture significant portions of these regions, major urban centers like Sumy and Chernigov – each home to hundreds of thousands – could fall within operational reach. Their vulnerability might prove a powerful bargaining chip in future negotiations. [/QUOTE]
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