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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mad as Fish" data-source="post: 138895" data-attributes="member: 396">Here we have a further lunge towards war, and one that we cannot win.Our efforts at containing the bear have been futile, and when it was open to a peace settlement it got punched on the nose, so it has built an arms industry that we simply cannot match and when Ukraine is taken, where will it next turn its attention? It will have become unstoppable, certainly by European armies and America is less than likely to give a toss. We have created a monster by trying to be clever, and oh boy has it ever backfired!</blockquote>

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