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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mad as Fish" data-source="post: 68926" data-attributes="member: 396">Lets just have a look at this -After the failure of the Ukrainian counteroffensive, pessimism has spread in society. Bad news about the lack of ammunition in the Ukrainian Armed Forces, a shortage of soldiers, weaknesses in the supply of weapons systems from the West, and a decline in Ukrainian morale have fuelled the mood.So the starting point is that the much hyped counter offensive has achieved nothing despite all the makey uppy videos of the Russian hordes being driven back by the plucky Ukes. The reasons given for the failure are shortage of manpower and the lack of western arms getting through to the front for whatever reason. So there aren't the soldiers or the logistics available to the commanders, we get that."Many people forget that most of the tanks and armoured combat vehicles are still there, and that many of the promised weapons are still being delivered," argues Nico Lange.In other words the Ukrainian army has not been able to utilise the weapons it has already received and are still arriving. Given the earlier excuses for failure this is most probably due to lack of soldiers and logistics. There may also be an element of recruits being rushed to shore up the front without the time to train them on the NATO weapons. And even if there was, would the commanders know how to use them effectively on the field?  A tank is useless on its own, it needs to be part of a force, do the Ukies know how to manage that? It's not an expertise that can be acquired overnight.This applies, for example, to 200 German Leopard 1 tanks, of which only about 30 have arrived in Ukraine.Moreover, Ukraine still has access to more than 95% of all weapons systems supplied by the West, as they have not yet been used in the counteroffensive. This is based on estimates by Oryx, a Dutch open-source website that analyses data on the supply and destruction of military equipment.So they have all these weapons that are unused, see above for probable reasons. So it's not a weapon shortage that's the issue, is being able to use them, and training an army takes time, not three weeks, that is if they have an army to train and that, as already noted, does not appear to be the case.</blockquote>

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