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<blockquote data-quote="A Man Called Charolais" data-source="post: 69067"><p>I think there are a few reasons that Orban has interests in slowing down Ukrainian accession but there's one that I haven't heard yet in the commentary - the settlement of the war.</p><p></p><p>There will have to be negotiations and one of the big ticket items is Ukrainian accession to the EU. If this is put through too soon there will be little the Russians can agree to and that will threaten the wins that the negotiators can bring back to their citizens. Ultimately the Maidan was about Ukraine freeing itself from the Russian economic and political orbit - not about membership of NATO. </p><p></p><p>I supported this at the time and continue to support it but I have not supported the strategy used to effect it since the lines settled down after the initial Russian involvement in the Donbas was blunted - turns out none of them came to their senses. </p><p></p><p>The Ukrainians made phenomenal reversals to the Russian invasion but should have pivoted after the first counter-offensive succeeded. The army that was built up prior to the Russian invasion has been destroyed and that is a disgrace for Zelensky, the Ukrainian General Staff, and the Western patrons of Ukraine.</p><p></p><p>Haass was on Zachari's GPS today arguing that the Ukrainians sit back and invite Russian offensives. This should have been the strategy once it was clear that the Russian entrenchments were too developed to permit rapid advance. They should have pooled reserves in the rear and a) inflicted large casualties on the Russians and b) made their resource expenditures on trenchworks and training wasted. Perhaps they could have invaded Transnistria to provoke the Russians into a precipitative attack once their formations were deployed in anticipation of them. It was bad generalship that has led to this impasse and loss of life. There is only manoeuvring for peace negotiations now - that was always the case. This is fraying capability in other theatres.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="A Man Called Charolais, post: 69067"] I think there are a few reasons that Orban has interests in slowing down Ukrainian accession but there's one that I haven't heard yet in the commentary - the settlement of the war. There will have to be negotiations and one of the big ticket items is Ukrainian accession to the EU. If this is put through too soon there will be little the Russians can agree to and that will threaten the wins that the negotiators can bring back to their citizens. Ultimately the Maidan was about Ukraine freeing itself from the Russian economic and political orbit - not about membership of NATO. I supported this at the time and continue to support it but I have not supported the strategy used to effect it since the lines settled down after the initial Russian involvement in the Donbas was blunted - turns out none of them came to their senses. The Ukrainians made phenomenal reversals to the Russian invasion but should have pivoted after the first counter-offensive succeeded. The army that was built up prior to the Russian invasion has been destroyed and that is a disgrace for Zelensky, the Ukrainian General Staff, and the Western patrons of Ukraine. Haass was on Zachari's GPS today arguing that the Ukrainians sit back and invite Russian offensives. This should have been the strategy once it was clear that the Russian entrenchments were too developed to permit rapid advance. They should have pooled reserves in the rear and a) inflicted large casualties on the Russians and b) made their resource expenditures on trenchworks and training wasted. Perhaps they could have invaded Transnistria to provoke the Russians into a precipitative attack once their formations were deployed in anticipation of them. It was bad generalship that has led to this impasse and loss of life. There is only manoeuvring for peace negotiations now - that was always the case. This is fraying capability in other theatres. [/QUOTE]
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