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<blockquote data-quote="A Man Called Charolais" data-source="post: 69099"><p>I can't speak to the absorption of Ukrainian assets by Western capital. There was a raiding of Russian assets in the 90s that was reversed during the first years of the Putin presidency. This is probably a lot of the reason why Putin is so vehemently regarded by corporate media. It may be that the Russian agitprop machine is projecting this on to Ukraine or it might be that this has some basis in truth.</p><p></p><p>The Maidan was about a promise that was made to the Ukrainian public by Yanukovych to begin the accession process to the EU. They were sick of the corruption and crime predating on the public and saw EU membership as a path out of it. </p><p></p><p>Yanukovych reneged on that promise and that kicked off the Maidan. True, certain actors in the West put their oar in but if the general public had not supported the expulsion of Yanukovych then the change in government would not have survived the counter-measures by the Russians.</p><p></p><p>There was a major invasion of Ukraine in February 2022. That the Ukrainians are still in the fight and in the possession of most of its territory is a testament to their determination to remain independent. The problem is the approach that has been imposed on them by moody and doltish elites. Must do better in statecraft results in thousands of deaths - it's unacceptable.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="A Man Called Charolais, post: 69099"] I can't speak to the absorption of Ukrainian assets by Western capital. There was a raiding of Russian assets in the 90s that was reversed during the first years of the Putin presidency. This is probably a lot of the reason why Putin is so vehemently regarded by corporate media. It may be that the Russian agitprop machine is projecting this on to Ukraine or it might be that this has some basis in truth. The Maidan was about a promise that was made to the Ukrainian public by Yanukovych to begin the accession process to the EU. They were sick of the corruption and crime predating on the public and saw EU membership as a path out of it. Yanukovych reneged on that promise and that kicked off the Maidan. True, certain actors in the West put their oar in but if the general public had not supported the expulsion of Yanukovych then the change in government would not have survived the counter-measures by the Russians. There was a major invasion of Ukraine in February 2022. That the Ukrainians are still in the fight and in the possession of most of its territory is a testament to their determination to remain independent. The problem is the approach that has been imposed on them by moody and doltish elites. Must do better in statecraft results in thousands of deaths - it's unacceptable. [/QUOTE]
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