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Message: <blockquote data-quote="A Man Called Charolais" data-source="post: 69144">We can differ on this but I did note earlier that Ukraine would not have survived if it did not have the support of its population and hundreds of thousands of veteran reservists. Russia was relying on a lack of support for the Ukrainian state when it invaded but, because it was mistaken in this, was routed from Northern Ukraine and had to do heavy work to win Mariupol despite its logistical and material advantages.I think that many support Russia because of the same reason Socrates used Sparta as a model for parts of the Republic - his ideal state.  Athens had been defeated by Sparta and, as is common, the defeated party copies the model of the victorious one. Given the social chaos we are experiencing in the West due to the degeneration of society, an appeal to the Russians as an alternative model is made.  This is why many would like to see Russia prevail in Ukraine - it might put an end to the social madness we're going through by sharpening the collective mind via the imposition of a cost on the celebration of folly and intrigue.  It appears hopeless at the moment and so drastic measures are coveted.However, the outcome of this might not be so much an Orthodox response as a CCP one of digitalised suffocation.We can have some thanks to Johnson for closing out the COVID ordeal when he did but his journey to stop a peace deal in the Spring of 2022 was a crime against humanity.  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVYqB0uTKlE" target="_blank">Nuland and her ilk</a> have been nothing but a handicap and a liability.</blockquote>

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