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Message: <blockquote data-quote="A Man Called Charolais" data-source="post: 76580">Reports are that the Ukrainians shot it down.  Russians were flying a military transport plane North East of Belgorod (the city that has been shelled recently).  A FR24 discussion reported that the Ukrainian MoD recently pulled a report saying that they did it, and are now denying it.  Hard to believe that the Russians would blow it up although they must have known that it was in harm's way.I know that my position of a Ukraine independent of Russian control is an unpopular one here, and I'm disappointed how the situation has been managed since 2015, but I would like to remind everyone that when a tank explodes there are three or four men in it.  The same goes for the area bombardment of battlefields or cities.  Artillery and mines produce catastrophic injuries and the concussion from explosives create pathological injuries.  The video from the Great War above gives you an idea of what this is all about - the funnelling of men to their deaths.This is not the Saturday Game.  We could be, in the cold and wet, on those lines.  These men aren't botniks or ukes.  To consider them as such is to indulge in the same negligence as those that have them there.</blockquote>

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