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<blockquote data-quote="Mad as Fish" data-source="post: 83356" data-attributes="member: 396"><p>On the subject of tanks. </p><p></p><p>I sat up for this last last night and the point was made that the first tanks were considered wonder weapons, game changers that were going to bring the Great War to an immediate end, which, if nothing else, tells us that the UK government was as active in propaganda dissemination then, as it is now.</p><p></p><p>Yet they weren't, they were just another tool and boots were still needed on the ground, and the same applies today. We are told to get excited by the arrival of the Leopards or Abrams, but have they made any great difference, has Russia collapsed at the sight of them?</p><p></p><p>Not at all, so I rather think all this puffery of chug chug machines that go bang bang is rather schoolboyish and we need to get away from marveling at them and focus instead on what is being achieved by either side on the ground, and it doesn't look good for Zelensky.</p><p></p><p>[MEDIA=youtube]SxNqEiiaixA[/MEDIA]</p><p><em><span style="font-size: 10px"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxNqEiiaixA" target="_blank">View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxNqEiiaixA</a></span></em></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mad as Fish, post: 83356, member: 396"] On the subject of tanks. I sat up for this last last night and the point was made that the first tanks were considered wonder weapons, game changers that were going to bring the Great War to an immediate end, which, if nothing else, tells us that the UK government was as active in propaganda dissemination then, as it is now. Yet they weren't, they were just another tool and boots were still needed on the ground, and the same applies today. We are told to get excited by the arrival of the Leopards or Abrams, but have they made any great difference, has Russia collapsed at the sight of them? Not at all, so I rather think all this puffery of chug chug machines that go bang bang is rather schoolboyish and we need to get away from marveling at them and focus instead on what is being achieved by either side on the ground, and it doesn't look good for Zelensky. [MEDIA=youtube]SxNqEiiaixA[/MEDIA] [i][size=2][url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxNqEiiaixA]View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxNqEiiaixA[/url][/size][/i] [/QUOTE]
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