The current status of the anti-Mass Migration Protest sites, especially Coolock

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I just thought you might like a quick update on the status of the 24/7 anti mass migration protests and encampments, as far as I can tell from talking to people etc (the exact locations of which and a few further details you can see if you search this subforum part of this site):

1) Knock. A public rosary is said at the Belmont Hotel and a guesthouse, which is housing migrants, every evening I believe, but no permanent encampment as of yet.

2) Ballina, they are still hanging in there at that site, but under constant pressure and I believe the actual encampment has been destroyed by the powers that be.

3) Clonmel, the encampment was destroyed, but built up again, but the government have created a while new entrance and are bulldozing there with a vengeance, rapidly creating a site for modular homes for migrants.

4) Naas, heroically still hanging in there I believe, but the government is also rapidly developing this site.

5) Thornton Hall, the same is true here, still protesters but developers are also getting through.

6) Newtown Mount Kennedy. So you had a 24/7 encampment for months, supported it is said by about 200 people, however, famously, the Public Order Unit smashed their way through and destroyed the encampment 3 times in total (meaning it was built up again then destroyed again etc). There is no encampment now, but they do have about 40 people very active there so it is by no means moribund.

7) Ballyogan, apparently do have a site permanently manned there, but aren't able to stop ingress and egress of the powers that be from the site.

8) Roscrea, earlier this year for many weeks they had such an encampment, but I believe it is not active now for a few months.

9) Fermoy, had one of the longest running and most important such encampment, but the Gardai got around them at the site earlier this year and it no longer functions I believe.


Coolock

At the time of writing it appears to be as follows:

This site has always been the largest by area, lots of sleeping quarters etc, with many adherents and much popular support in the locality. Its also very visible with busy traffic passing along it. It didn't actually face any, I don't think, pressure from the powers that be at all up to this, probably because it would clearly be a formidable fortress to attack.

Then suddenly this morning, 15 June 2024, the Gardai and developers went in. The Gardai didn't seem to be in huge force initially and basically the workmen were run out of it, minus one burned out JCB.

The next stage was a build up of a very serious number of uniformed Gardai who tried to keep the area clear of protesters by erecting and manning large security fencing. But it seems this disintegrated too, even the fencing got mangled, by the locals in Coolock who again seemed to have won out.

However the next stage was the arrival of the very well armed and protected Public Order Unit who charged, and pepper sprayed, and seemed to have cleared the whole area around the site (its a large disused paint factory) and are arresting, very aggressively, anybody who as much steps foot in the general vicinity. This is reported to include a factory worker who was just passing the area on his way home and who was battered mercilessly on the ground.

Anyway hopefully I can get more information on this as the night wears on, and I am subject to correction or more exact information on all of these areas if anybody would like to chip in.

This in any case is the real fight in modern Ireland, this movement and protesters have worked wonders in keeping this thing going and hopefully won't give up despite the great pressures they are all now under.

by Brian Nugent
 

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Bocht and Plunkett are splitting the Coolock footage.

No surprise to see Irish Nats making a split at the first opportunity!
 

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If that happens will your countymen revive the spirit of Bartholomew Teeling of Collooney Sir?
If pints & football are at stake? . . . Certainly might see some response.

It appears that there's enough (plenty) of space between town and immediate countryside and so I'm guessing many locals are employed in the planting (public services & construction) - We must wait a while longer to see what impact, but no doubt, there's an increase of new foreigners in town.
 

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What I truly do not comprehend. These order following OATH BREAKERS.
Do they think they will be spared? Their children protected? Their grandchildren be able to live free?
I cannot for the life of me comprehend.
All people have to do is refuse. Say No..
 

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What I truly do not comprehend. These order following OATH BREAKERS.
Do they think they will be spared? Their children protected? Their grandchildren be able to live free?
I cannot for the life of me comprehend.
All people have to do is refuse. Say No..
They will do whatever they are ordered. It was s rare for it to be otherwise
 

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They will do whatever they are ordered. It was s rare for it to be otherwise
Still. I am inclined to believe that some kind of voice-to-skull is being perfected
The Black and Tan approach will never work here.
 

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I understand they have made it to Coolock so we await reports
 

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It is also known as ' Voice of God' .. they can do so much effed up things - having had decades of practice with enlisted ' cattle' and civilians.
The collective behaviour of former law enforcement does not surprise me one bit.
Though it still shocks me as it goes against basic survival instinct.
Must re- read Solchenizyn.
 

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Sorry for the delay, protests also involve an awful lot of hanging around and slow times as it were, and it was like that between roughly 10 to midnight in Coolock tonight. You can see in this video the Gardai, who are still very much out in force, and suspiciously active in circling around and reversing in and out with their many vehicles. (Some are speculating that they are not just carrying Gardai now, maybe moving in materials for the migrants that they couldn't get in by lorry earlier, or fencing material?. They later parked some vans so that you can no longer see into this area.)

Anyway this short video features James, on crutches. He was just after arriving, having travelled for 4 hours from Ballina Co. Mayo in solidarity with Coolock. He is on crutches because he was beaten up in Ballina for being a protestor (it was not at the actual site, he is not sure exactly who they were, except they did it to him because he was a protestor.) Other protestors came from places like Roscrea, although the bulk are obviously locals.

The sequence of events is as described earlier I believe, because anyway when you are actually there you tend to get a worms eye view of events! So basically at roughly 3pm the Public Order Unit were positioned shoulder to shoulder, or rather shield to shield, across this large dual carriageway and with batons and pepper spray cleared the road. But the Coolock people persisted and so it was a kind of running battle for many hours, the people dispersed then creeping back again then charged again etc.

But it's hard to sustain this after about 10 pm because for some it began early in the morning, and this is an industrial/commercial area with all shops prematurely closed so people do get a bit cold and hungry after so many hours!

There are reported to be 13 arrests, including Philip Dwyer and Gavin Pepper. It was also confirmed, by a respected experienced protestor, that at least one of the Gardai was in fact from the PSNI.

Just to clarify the beginning as well: There were 3 people sleeping in the, large and well furnished, encampment, which has now been completely destroyed with the exception of one small chair and a speaker! That's what the JCB was destroying, but also at the beginning they had large lorries lined up to bring in supplies for the incoming migrants, including mattresses, some of which also caught fire. Another point is that one of the protestor tactics was to set fire to the contents of bins along the route and throw them into the middle of the road, to disrupt the Garda advance.

Anyway the real question is will Coolock persist at this? The Gardai will stay there in force for at least a day or two but will the protesters continue to try and get an encampment going again?

Hopefully they will!
 

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One take away from all this is if you ever hear again about lack of Garda resources, and being too difficult to bring prosecutions because of defendants legal rights, etc etc, don't believe a word of it. The Gardai in Ireland have utterly unlimited human, equipment and financial resources, and as against the citizens have total legal immunity to do whatever they want to do, where you hear them say otherwise it's because they just don't want to protect people or stop repeated thefts, a complaint you hear all over Ireland.

Coolock has proven that. As regards legal power one guy in court for protesting at Ballyogan explained that among the charges read out was 'kidnapping', as they claimed that security people were prevented from leaving the site. What kind of sentence could that generate and Irish people generally have no real access to legal defence, because it's way too expensive for normal people.
 

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Just wanted to add to the above comment on the great power and resources of the security forces in the South of Ireland. The missing bit there was of course their media power, and even the way they seem to lie behind some of the 'celebrities' we think we know from following the Irish media. For example both Hazel Chu and David Quinn seem to send out very similar tweets at the same time, reflecting very closely the Garda line that they are just defending people in Coolock from a hoard of thugs. You can see I think very clearly in this short video how much the Irish print media is under the thumb of these securocrats:
 

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So thats what they were at overnight using the Garda vans pulling in and out constantly. They must have been installing those huge concrete barriers. Anyway at least some people are back!
 

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Just on that little video of the newspaper headlines: I am sure there are some that wonder why should the media coverage be so important and be highlighted like this, but actually its one of the most amazing things about the Coolock incident. The degree to which the media image is totally different from what actually happened is so blatant as to be Communist style media manipulation. Remember the Gardai attacked the protestors, beginning by sending in a JCB to destroy their possessions and encampment, suddenly in the early hours of the morning. It was not the other way around, nobody, or virtually nobody, attacked the Gardai at all.

As a general rule Gardai are never attacked in this country, by protestors or anybody else, for example the rate of injury and death is infinitely higher in this country for the profession of farmer than it is for police, despite the sometimes 10 times disparity in wages. Anyway they do not attack Gardai, I would say ever, for these reasons:

– There are already long sentences, fines and onerous bail conditions hitting Irish protestors, nobody wants to add the possibly huge sentences attached to attacking Gardai.

– The protestors are generally decent people who are not trying to attack anybody. For example in Coolock you had the protestors in the 24/7 encampment outside the disused paint factory, but also there was continuous presence of security guards inside the factory. These were mainly from Africa, for some reason, but instead of any trouble they got on very well, with the guards stopping in for a chat or a cup of tea in the camp whenever they changed shifts.

– How anyway could a protestor seriously attack these public order unit Gardai? As regards personal protection, they are armed to the teeth with huge industrial style boots, helmets, shields, batons, pepper sprays, and padding and body guard type armour all over them.

So what you are seeing in those headlines is a complete and total lie from beginning to end, and shows how much of a Communist state we are in.
 

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So what you are seeing in those headlines is a complete and total lie from beginning to end, and shows how much of a Communist state we are in.
But let's be clear, It's a FFG state backed by the RCC, Farmers/Estate/Landlords.
Talking about Coolock there's an interesting Point of View nearby which broadens and illustrates the point -

Simply go to Dublin Airport and jump on a plane and/or come back home to land. Notice while flying over the country just how much spare land and territory is available in the region?? It begs serious questions now in relation to planting out within a sparse tight community.

Another thing (has to be said) The protesting and the gestures of such are simply not enough to make the affected community's problems go away or fix their areas.
The protesters must become politicians in their own right, they must respond to the challenges by forming their own reliable NGO's and progressive local authorities - They must become a seriously coalition of local planning & development.

They must replace the burning campsites with a a brightly lit Town Hall 💡💡💡💡💡 of their own.

A new Right Wing PBP combined with local business investment . . . Community Communism could make them a whole lot better . . . 🧐
 

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I think you need to lay down the weed pipe Love.
It's been a long time since the weed pipe Myles, I got pains all over . . .

Do you want to deal with the post above or are you too lazy (can't be bothered to think outside the box?)

It's wonderful to consider the spirit of protest and what can be achieved . . .
 

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But let's be clear, It's a FFG state backed by the RCC, Farmers/Estate/Landlords.
Talking about Coolock there's an interesting Point of View nearby which broadens and illustrates the point -

Simply go to Dublin Airport and jump on a plane and/or come back home to land. Notice while flying over the country just how much spare land and territory is available in the region?? It begs serious questions now in relation to planting out within a sparse tight community.

Another thing (has to be said) The protesting and the gestures of such are simply not enough to make the affected community's problems go away or fix their areas.
The protesters must become politicians in their own right, they must respond to the challenges by forming their own reliable NGO's and progressive local authorities - They must become a seriously coalition of local planning & development.

They must replace the burning campsites with a a brightly lit Town Hall 💡💡💡💡💡 of their own.

A new Right Wing PBP combined with local business investment . . . Community Communism could make them a whole lot better . . . 🧐
Councillors are one thing, but you see what happens when you get close the levers of power. Trump they shoot, Corbyn they smear and demonise, LePen has the entire electoral system legally rigged to deny the votes and even referenda won by the people are watered down to mean nothing like Brexit or run again like the Nice treaty here. They will allow you to sink energy of years into political projects but wont enable you to actually have power.

I’m sure Sinn Fein believed that if they played the game and said the right things they’d get into government and once there could do all the things they actually believed. See how that going for them now. another 30-40 years for the Irish nationalist movement to be in a similar position
 

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