General Chat in The Marcus Lounge.

[clarke-connolly]

I'm not interested in Jews. I don't like them.

Jews are NOT very interesting Myles !

And Also ~ Surprise Surprise ~ Muslims are Not very interesting either !

The only interesting thing about those two, is that they keep themselves busy trying to kill one another ~ ~ And the Muslims aren't even any good at that !

 

[céline]

Atheism leads to Communism, Myles. There is an abundance of Jews in Communism.

 

[jpc]

Myles, I didn’t answer your question because it wasn’t a serious attempt at dialogue—it was a juvenile diversion from discussing the real issue: the origin of the universe. Both you and James have shown a consistent pattern of dodging meaningful conversation—especially when it comes to the creation of the universe, a topic you both introduced to this thread and yet contributed nothing to. This makes it painfully clear that you're not interested in actual discourse. If won’t answer my questions, then why would you expect me to answer yours?

That said, the age of the Earth, and more importantly, the methods and underlying assumptions behind dating fossils and rocks, is a subject worth exploring. However, I won’t waste time on it here, where your input is as vacuous as ever. Instead, I’ll address it on the Origins Thread, where you’re free to continue offering absolutely no value to the conversation, as per usual.

Now, while many who adhere to the Intelligent Design model of the universe may generally accept an old Earth (such as Stephen J Meyer from the video above), it’s still an interesting area to examine the actual methods used to date rocks and fossils—and among other things, how those methods have failed spectacularly when confronted with rocks of known, recent formation.

I'll be taking a look at Mount St. Helens, for example. Rocks from the 1980 eruption were dated to be hundreds of thousands, even millions, of years old—a laughable discrepancy given that we know the rocks were freshly formed. Then there’s Mount Pinatubo, where lava flows from 1991 were assigned absurd ages, far older than the eruption itself. The Mendenhall Glacier’s retreat exposed rocks that were dated to tens of thousands of years older than the glacier itself. And, of course, rocks from Kīlauea in Hawaii, freshly formed during ongoing eruptions, were dated to millions of years—an outright farce, I'm sure you'd agree.

How is the ageing of volcanic rock arrived at.
Isotopes?
Crystal structures of the cooled rock?

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

What's the bets Tiger answers JPC before addressing Dinosaurs when asked for the 5th time?

 

[Wolf]

Any idea what's going on here?


View: https://x.com/SeanDubIreland/status/1879118467607187948

 

[Wolf]

Just like Paddyland.

Drug traces found in Finnish parliament – media​

Yle News says samples from the legislature’s toilets following early Christmas parties have tested positive for cocaine and MDMA

© Getty Images/Aleksandr Gavrilychev


Finland’s Yle News has reported that it has found traces of multiple controlled substances in the country’s parliament, in the wake of Christmas celebrations there.
In an article on Monday, the media outlet revealed that in November its reporters had collected samples in six toilet cubicles, both men’s and women’s, while parliamentary groups were holding parties. Subsequent laboratory testing identified traces of amphetamine, MDMA and cocaine in half the stalls.

Kalle Lagerblom, chief operating officer at Measurlabs testing facility, told Yle that the “residues are very small, but there are clearly [drug] residues.”
However, the report points out that the samples do not necessarily indicate that drugs were consumed in the parliamentary cubicles. Yle quoted Lagerblom as explaining that a person who used the facilities might have previously come into contact with drugs, whether intentionally or unintentionally. “In principle, it is enough for a person to have been on a bus and sat on a seat contaminated with drugs, with some of the substance ending up stuck on their clothes,” the expert told reporters.
According to the article, aside from lawmakers, the Christmas parties were also attended by parliamentary employees, ministerial assistants and journalists.
READ MORE: UK navy ‘gang bangs’ exposed by whistleblower – media
When asked for comment, Speaker of Parliament Jussi Halla-aho told the media outlet that “it is of course sad and pathetic that there are signs in Parliament that people who may work here are using drugs.”
Antti Pelttari, Secretary General of the Finnish Parliament, similarly described the findings as an “unfortunate surprise.”
Halla-aho acknowledged, however, that there was not much the legislature could do to address the issue, as putting a “sniffer dog at the door of Parliament to check everyone who enters” would likely fail to garner sufficient support.
Last January, daily tabloid Aftonbladet in neighboring Sweden conducted a similar experiment in that country’s parliament, testing samples from eight parties’ offices. According to the newspaper, traces of cocaine were found in half the samples checked.
Back in August 2022, former Finnish Prime Minister Sanna Marin was compelled to take a drug test after several videos of a private party she had taken part in surfaced. Some observers claimed they had heard some of the revelers in the footage describe themselves as a “flour gang” – ‘flour’ being a Finnish slang term for cocaine.
The test results came back negative, with Marin insisting that never in her life had she used controlled substances.

Drug traces found in EU state parliament – media

Finland’s Yle News says that samples from toilets in parliament taken following early Christmas parties tested positive for cocaine and MDMA

www.rt.com

 

[clarke-connolly]

Any idea what's going on here?


View: https://x.com/SeanDubIreland/status/1879118467607187948

A mean post on X probably !

 

[clarke-connolly]

Just like Paddyland.

Drug traces found in Finnish parliament – media​

Yle News says samples from the legislature’s toilets following early Christmas parties have tested positive for cocaine and MDMA

© Getty Images/Aleksandr Gavrilychev


Finland’s Yle News has reported that it has found traces of multiple controlled substances in the country’s parliament, in the wake of Christmas celebrations there.
In an article on Monday, the media outlet revealed that in November its reporters had collected samples in six toilet cubicles, both men’s and women’s, while parliamentary groups were holding parties. Subsequent laboratory testing identified traces of amphetamine, MDMA and cocaine in half the stalls.

Kalle Lagerblom, chief operating officer at Measurlabs testing facility, told Yle that the “residues are very small, but there are clearly [drug] residues.”
However, the report points out that the samples do not necessarily indicate that drugs were consumed in the parliamentary cubicles. Yle quoted Lagerblom as explaining that a person who used the facilities might have previously come into contact with drugs, whether intentionally or unintentionally. “In principle, it is enough for a person to have been on a bus and sat on a seat contaminated with drugs, with some of the substance ending up stuck on their clothes,” the expert told reporters.
According to the article, aside from lawmakers, the Christmas parties were also attended by parliamentary employees, ministerial assistants and journalists.
READ MORE: UK navy ‘gang bangs’ exposed by whistleblower – media
When asked for comment, Speaker of Parliament Jussi Halla-aho told the media outlet that “it is of course sad and pathetic that there are signs in Parliament that people who may work here are using drugs.”
Antti Pelttari, Secretary General of the Finnish Parliament, similarly described the findings as an “unfortunate surprise.”
Halla-aho acknowledged, however, that there was not much the legislature could do to address the issue, as putting a “sniffer dog at the door of Parliament to check everyone who enters” would likely fail to garner sufficient support.
Last January, daily tabloid Aftonbladet in neighboring Sweden conducted a similar experiment in that country’s parliament, testing samples from eight parties’ offices. According to the newspaper, traces of cocaine were found in half the samples checked.
Back in August 2022, former Finnish Prime Minister Sanna Marin was compelled to take a drug test after several videos of a private party she had taken part in surfaced. Some observers claimed they had heard some of the revelers in the footage describe themselves as a “flour gang” – ‘flour’ being a Finnish slang term for cocaine.
The test results came back negative, with Marin insisting that never in her life had she used controlled substances.

Drug traces found in EU state parliament – media

Finland’s Yle News says that samples from toilets in parliament taken following early Christmas parties tested positive for cocaine and MDMA

www.rt.com

It's hardly surprising when you see the carry on of Western Politicians in so many places !

 

[Anderson]

Seen this, had to laugh!

 

[Hermit]

Dinosaurs

Dinosaurs are a hoax, coincidentally and conveniently "discovered" mostly in the 1800s around the time of Darwin's evolution. Entire dinosaur bodies have supposedly been reconstructed from a few bone fragments, not the entire skeleton, such as the Trachodon whose reconstruction was imagined based on a few teeth. Also, the method of dating these fake creatures to be millions of years old is a farce, as Tiger explained above. There's lots of other evidence for dinosaurs being a hoax if you cared enough to look into it.

This Treasured Fossil Turns Out to Be a Forgery

Paleontology is rife with fake fossils that are made to cash in on illegal trade but end up interfering with science

www.scientificamerican.com

Iffyosaurus Dinosaur skeleton exposed as fake

For 116 years it graced the halls of the National Museum of Wales at Cardiff - the fossilised skeleton of a 200m-year-old predator that once cruised the Jurassic seas.

www.theguardian.com

Archaeoraptor: The Dinosaur-Bird “Missing Link” And One Of Science's Greatest Hoaxes

The fossil was heralded as the elusive proof that birds evolved from dinosaurs. Unfortunately, it was a fake.

www.iflscience.com

Archaeologists find a '280 million-year-old fossil' forgery

A team of archaeologists have uncovered a secret fossil forgery by using high-tech scientific scanning techniques

www.bbc.co.uk

Bone Wars - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The Bone Wars, also known as the Great Dinosaur Rush,[1] was a period of intense and ruthlessly competitive fossil hunting and discovery during the Gilded Age of American history, marked by a heated rivalry between Edward Drinker Cope (of the Academy of Natural Sciences of Philadelphia) and Othniel Charles Marsh (of the Peabody Museum of Natural History at Yale). Each of the two paleontologists used underhanded methods to try to outdo the other in the field, resorting to bribery, theft, and the destruction of bones. Each scientist also sought to ruin his rival's reputation and cut off his funding, using attacks in scientific publications.

 

[SwordOfStZip]

Tell me about Dinosaurs Sir. When were they knocking about?

There are "Dinosaur" like beings knocking around the world today and not just in Scotland.

Mokele-mbembe

The Mokele-Mbembe or li'kela-bembe is a neodinosaurian cryptid reported mainly from the Republic of the Congo and Cameroon, where it is alleged to inhabit swampy or marshy wetlands, lakes, and rivers. It is particularly associated with the Likouala region and Lake Tele, but is also reported from...

cryptidarchives.fandom.com

I don't know about Tiger but based on stuff in the Bible and the Book of Enoch some people think that the Dinosaurs were created through genetic manipulation by Scientists working with information fed to them by Fallen Angels before the Great Flood.

 

[Wolf]

LOL's....a 'climate research analyst' forced a plane to dump €30k worth of fuel all over us 'cause he was pissed as a fart on a flight to New York. The fucking irony.

Man fined, avoids jail over drunken behaviour on flight

A 34-year-old man, whose drunken behaviour on an airplane forced it to divert to Dublin and dump thousands of euro worth of fuel, has been given a suspended sentence and ordered to pay €10,000.

www.rte.ie

 

[Declan]

Hos name explains why he was not forced to pay the 30000 to United, at least

 

[SwordOfStZip]

Atheism leads to Communism, Myles. There is an abundance of Jews in Communism.

That was true- however the love affair between Jews and Communism is firmly now a thing of the past.

In fact people like the awful Konstanin Kisin have even endorsed Robert Welch and Senator McCarthy- though of course they leave a lot of stuff about that time out of the picture.

The main Zionist advocate on the Irish interweb believes that a KGB conspiracy has massive if not quite total power in Ireland.

 

[Declan]

Cé hé sin

who is that

 

[SwordOfStZip]

Cé hé sin

who is that

roc_.

 

[SwordOfStZip]

Cé hé sin

who is that

Oh Konstanin Kisin does the "triggernometry" podcast in England which is a popular I guess fake edgy Normie Conservative podcast.

He is the son of someone who was high up in Yeltsin's government but ran into trouble even than for being so over the top in terms of corruption, embezzlement, etc.

 

[Declan]

Thank you, I am unaware of him

 

[AN2]

Dinosaurs are a hoax

This Treasured Fossil Turns Out to Be a Forgery

Paleontology is rife with fake fossils that are made to cash in on illegal trade but end up interfering with science

www.scientificamerican.com

Iffyosaurus Dinosaur skeleton exposed as fake

For 116 years it graced the halls of the National Museum of Wales at Cardiff - the fossilised skeleton of a 200m-year-old predator that once cruised the Jurassic seas.

www.theguardian.com

Archaeoraptor: The Dinosaur-Bird “Missing Link” And One Of Science's Greatest Hoaxes

The fossil was heralded as the elusive proof that birds evolved from dinosaurs. Unfortunately, it was a fake.

www.iflscience.com

Archaeologists find a '280 million-year-old fossil' forgery

A team of archaeologists have uncovered a secret fossil forgery by using high-tech scientific scanning techniques

www.bbc.co.uk

Bone Wars - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

What's this fallacy called?

as Tiger explained

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

Drug traces found in Finnish parliament toilets​

Some queer politicians brought a few rent boys in to party.

Apparently one of them is originally from Ballyers.

 

[AN2]

Myles, I didn’t answer your question because it wasn’t a serious attempt at dialogue—it was a juvenile diversion from discussing the real issue: the origin of the universe. Both you and James have shown a consistent pattern of dodging meaningful conversation—especially when it comes to the creation of the universe, a topic you both introduced to this thread and yet contributed nothing to. This makes it painfully clear that you're not interested in actual discourse. If won’t answer my questions, then why would you expect me to answer yours?

That said, the age of the Earth, and more importantly, the methods and underlying assumptions behind dating fossils and rocks, is a subject worth exploring.

However, I won’t waste time on it here, where your input is as vacuous as ever. Instead, I’ll address it on the Origins Thread, where you’re free to continue offering absolutely no value to the conversation, as per usual.

Now, while many who adhere to the Intelligent Design model of the universe may generally accept an old Earth (such as Stephen J Meyer from the video above), it’s still an interesting area to examine the actual methods used to date rocks and fossils—and among other things, how those methods have failed spectacularly when confronted with rocks of known, recent formation.

I'll be taking a look at Mount St. Helens, for example. Rocks from the 1980 eruption were dated to be hundreds of thousands, even millions, of years old—a laughable discrepancy given that we know the rocks were freshly formed. Then there’s Mount Pinatubo, where lava flows from 1991 were assigned absurd ages, far older than the eruption itself. The Mendenhall Glacier’s retreat exposed rocks that were dated to tens of thousands of years older than the glacier itself. And, of course, rocks from Kīlauea in Hawaii, freshly formed during ongoing eruptions, were dated to millions of years—an outright farce, I'm sure you'd agree.

How is the ageing of volcanic rock arrived at.
Isotopes?
Crystal structures of the cooled rock?

What's the bets Tiger answers JPC before addressing Dinosaurs when asked for the 5th time?

Did he have second thoughts?

Anyway, I'm sure a 5-year-old could've debunked whatever he was planning on copy pasting in his crank ID thread

 

[Declan]

 

[Declan]

A little sing song to cheer ye up

 

[clarke-connolly]

View attachment 7084

Excellent ~ ~ Hopefully it helps take down those two Kunts ! !

 

[Declan]

 

[clarke-connolly]

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Those that Voted for these Scumbags = = Deserve these Scumbags !

 

[Declan]

Mickie Healy Rae is getting a merc.

maybe @Anderson is right, it is a lost cause

 

[scolairebocht]

That was predictable. Last year he was involved in clearly a contrived incident outside the Dail where he was supposedly jostled by 'far right' protestors and then was all over the media the next day talking about his traumatic experience. It was obviously set up by the powers that be.
He has also been promoting euthanasia in a Dail committee, another key aim of the globalists these days.

 

[jpc]

Did he have second thoughts?

Anyway, I'm sure a 5-year-old could've debunked whatever he was planning on copy pasting in his crank ID thread

Just want to say.
That's a genuine question.
Argon isotopes are one method.
Another thing
If someone has sincere religious beliefs.
What of it?
One point.
The more we learn.
The less we find that we actually know.
For the record.
I'm in the Earth is 4 billion plus years old camp.

 

[Tiger]

Just want to say.
That's a genuine question.
Argon isotopes are one method.
Another thing
If someone has sincere religious beliefs.
What of it?
One point.
The more we learn.
The less we find that we actually know.
For the record.
I'm in the Earth is 4 billion plus years old camp.

Hi jpc,

Yes, at Mount St. Helens, Potassium-Argon (K-Ar) dating was used to date rocks from the 1986 lava dome, which were known to have solidified only a few years earlier.

Despite this, the method produced ages ranging from hundreds of thousands to millions of years. The error occurred because newly formed rocks contained "excess argon" trapped during crystallization, which made them appear artificially older. This case (and a bunch of others) underscores a critical flaw in radiometric dating: its reliance on assumptions about initial conditions and closed-system behaviour.

I don’t think this thread is the best place to discuss it, so I’ll be having it over on the Origins thread instead, along with dealing the subject of dinosaurs.

 

[AN2]

Just want to say.
That's a genuine question.
Argon isotopes are one method.

Another thing

If someone has sincere religious beliefs.
What of it?

I don't recall objecting to "someone's sincere religious belief"

Religious certainty irks me (as does atheistic certainty)

Creationism, especially in the form of ID masquerades as science

Wedge strategy - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Do you want to see science replaced with Christian creationism?

One point.
The more we learn.
The less we find that we actually know.
For the record.
I'm in the Earth is 4 billion plus years old camp.

 

[jpc]

I don't recall objecting to "someone's sincere religious belief"

Religious certainty irks me (as does atheistic certainty)

Creationism, especially in the form of ID masquerades as science

Wedge strategy - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Do you want to see science replaced with Christian creationism?

Just a clarification.

 

[jpc]

Hi jpc,

Yes, at Mount St. Helens, Potassium-Argon (K-Ar) dating was used to date rocks from the 1986 lava dome, which were known to have solidified only a few years earlier.

Despite this, the method produced ages ranging from hundreds of thousands to millions of years. The error occurred because newly formed rocks contained "excess argon" trapped during crystallization, which made them appear artificially older. This case (and a bunch of others) underscores a critical flaw in radiometric dating: its reliance on assumptions about initial conditions and closed-system behaviour.

I don’t think this thread is the best place to discuss it, so I’ll be having it over on the Origins thread instead, along with dealing the subject of dinosaurs.

Again. It just goes to show how analytical methods need rigorous tests against multiple matrices.
It doesn't throw any major questions about geological ageing though!

 

[AN2]

Hi jpc,

Yes, at Mount St. Helens, Potassium-Argon (K-Ar) dating was used to date rocks from the 1986 lava dome, which were known to have solidified only a few years earlier.

Despite this, the method produced ages ranging from hundreds of thousands to millions of years. The error occurred because newly formed rocks contained "excess argon" trapped during crystallization, which made them appear artificially older.

This case (and a bunch of others) underscores a critical flaw in radiometric dating: its reliance on assumptions about initial conditions and closed-system behaviour.

Same energy -

Post in thread 'General Chat in The Marcus Lounge.' https://www.sarsfieldsvirtualpub.com/threads/general-chat-in-the-marcus-lounge.1108/post-125805

I don’t think this thread is the best place to discuss it, so I’ll be having it over on the Origins thread instead, along with dealing the subject of dinosaurs.

You've been talking about it for two days, get on with it will ya, ffs

 

[Tiger]

Same energy -

Post in thread 'General Chat in The Marcus Lounge.' https://www.sarsfieldsvirtualpub.com/threads/general-chat-in-the-marcus-lounge.1108/post-125805


You've been talking about it for two days, get on with it will ya, ffs

Some of us have jobs and families James.

There’s no hurry.

 

[SwordOfStZip]

Jews are NOT very interesting Myles !

And Also ~ Surprise Surprise ~ Muslims are Not very interesting either !

Okay so we know that you do not find Jews and Muslims interesting, so who do you find interesting?

 

[Wolf]

Looks like Myles has been banned again.
Place is getting worse.

 

[Declan]

A mod banned him til Jan 20

 

[Wolf]

Looks like he who cannot be mentioned had another meltdown about me today.
It's so funny watching it wrestle with the damage its lover, the padre, did to it.
Every time it takes a shit it's reminded.
Bless.

 

[AN2]

A mod banned him til Jan 20

When's his parole hearing?