Protest/meeting at the former Belmont Hotel, Knock Co. Mayo, 27 May 2024

[scolairebocht]

Belmont Hotel 53.785200, -8.920099.

In response to public concern on the matter, which has even reached the ears of Midwest radio, a public meeting was organised in Knock Co. Mayo at the former Belmont Hotel site to ascertain community reaction to a proposed asylum centre at that hotel. It was called by Paul Lawless, who spoke first, and then addressed by Mark Devane, both being local election candidates, the former for Aontú and the latter for Independent Ireland.

These two speakers dwelt at length on their concerns on the matter, and their strong support for earlier protests, with Mark Devane emphasising his great track record at Ballinrobe and other places, with Paul Lawless stating how he was virtually alone in opposing these centres two years ago. Some further remarks were also made by Aaron Kelly, again a local election candidate, this time for The Irish People Party, who is a veteran of many protests and similar ventures and so felt it necessary to warn against people who might cause division, and indeed against politicians in general. In any case it developed into a slightly fractious debate after that and not much of a concrete nature emerged. Nonetheless Paul Lawless intends to hold another the following night (28/5/2024) where he hopes some local dignitaries will attend and shed some light on their plans for the building.

Many thanks to all who attended and what follows are a few pictures and an interview with attendees David Darcy and Aaron Kelly.

by Brian Nugent

 

[Professor]

Mind you, every cloud has a silver lining and no better place for a miracle than in Knock itself. Suggest this light heartily but also from a personal curiosity in seeing how things are dealt with from religious, social, cultural locales. . .

Meanwhile I'll take this opportunity to suggest that People of Knock can make changes for their own benefit and major benefit by developing alternative and suitable new venues for themselves in a movement in which to enliven and recreate their own local cultures & communities . . .

Perspectives - Ways - & - Means.

 

[Declan]

Wherefore Come out from among them, and be ye separate

 

[scolairebocht]

Last Sunday there was another major protest in Knock. Although it didn't get a lot of support from the town itself it attracted some patriots from around Mayo and Ireland, particularly from Athlone. In any case here is a short video from it:

 

[AN2]

Last Sunday there was another major protest in Knock. Although it didn't get a lot of support from the town itself it attracted some patriots from around Mayo and Ireland, particularly from Athlone. In any case here is a short video from it:

Do you think the Catholics could learn something from the chap with the English accent? ..


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FPlhZbPpGWg&t=8m16s


View: https://t.me/OffgridiIreland/61262

 

[scolairebocht]

Ok so what would you say specifically?

 

[AN2]

Ok so what would you say specifically?

Well, what he said about race and racisme

I mean, the protestors were holding up a sign that says - No to racism, right?

Is there any racial consciousness among the Catholics or is it all about 'slims (& unvetts) i.e. a Tommy Robinson type protest?

 

[scolairebocht]

I would say many protestors believe in "Ireland for the Irish", so presumably that clarifies matters?

 

[AN2]

I would say many protestors believe in "Ireland for the Irish", so presumably that clarifies matters?

What are they protesting against, specifically?

Oh and would they consider a non-Catholic to be Irish? I don't think Tiger does, for example

 

[scolairebocht]

They are against mass immigration, specifically the taking over of that hotel you see there to make it a centre for, probably, predominantly Muslim migrants. There is also a guesthouse turned that way now, nearer the town centre.

There are many Irish people who are non Catholic, I don't see a difficulty there?

 

[AN2]

They are against mass immigration, specifically the taking over of that hotel you see there to make it a centre for, probably, predominantly Muslim migrants.

Do you think that they would feel differently if the migrants were Christians, from the same countries?

 

[scolairebocht]

I guess they might a bit, but no I think people increasingly would like to see Irish people in Ireland, a revolutionary concept I know!

 

[SwordOfStZip]

What are they protesting against, specifically?

Oh and would they consider a non-Catholic to be Irish? I don't think Tiger does, for example

Catholics make up now probably only 20 per cent of the indigenous population in the 26 counties so it would be strange if they did consider only Catholics to be Irish.

I think Tiger's position is more nuanced also.

 

[AN2]

Catholics make up now probably only 20 per cent of the indigenous population in the 26 counties so it would be strange if they did consider only Catholics to be Irish.

I think Tiger's position is more nuanced also.

Tiger doesn't think that I have a drop of Irish blood in me -.

Post in thread 'Mass Migration to Ireland & Europe' https://www.sarsfieldsvirtualpub.com/threads/mass-migration-to-ireland-europe.252/post-124862

I suppose that could be nuanced

 

[SwordOfStZip]

Tiger doesn't think that I have a drop of Irish blood in me -.

Post in thread 'Mass Migration to Ireland & Europe' https://www.sarsfieldsvirtualpub.com/threads/mass-migration-to-ireland-europe.252/post-124862

I suppose that could be nuanced

Oh okay....Sometimes a person finds themselves allergic to another person, and that other person beings out the worst and/or the irrational in them. There could be astrological reasons behind this but anyways it is just part of life that we have to accept.

 

[SwordOfStZip]

I would say though that there are degrees of Irishness.

Two people can be both Irish but one would be more Irish than the other.

Think Tadgh on one hand and Kevin Parlon on the other.

Several things would factor into the degree of Irishness a person has.

 

[AN2]

Oh okay....Sometimes a person finds themselves allergic to another person, and that other person beings out the worst and/or the irrational in them.

There could be astrological reasons behind this but anyways it is just part of life that we have to accept.

Nope

Astrology is a load of nonsense, hardly even worth a debunk

Of course, you're all sort of interwoven.. from the flat-earthers to the IDiots to the astrology beliebers

@Hermit appears to run the gamut

Did you watch the video in my last post in the Flat Earth Thread thread btw?

"I know God exists because I know the Earth is flat"

Hermit said that. Have you ever read anything so tragic

 

[AN2]

I would say though that there are degrees of Irishness.

Really?

Two people can be both Irish but one would be more Irish than the other.

More Irish?

Think Tadgh on one hand and Kevin Parlon on the other.

Several things would factor into the degree of Irishness a person has.

Tadhg is a communist, well, communist LARPer that is. Obviously no one living in the West is an actual communist (includes Ash Sarkar) albeit we are ruled by communistic Regimes

 

[Myles O'Reilly]

Tiger doesn't think that I have a drop of Irish blood in me -.

Tiger is a fucking dope.

 

[SwordOfStZip]

Really?


More Irish?


Tadhg is a communist, well, communist LARPer that is. Obviously no one living in the West is an actual communist (includes Ash Sarkar) albeit we are ruled by communistic Regimes

Yes more Irish. Two people can be both Punk Rockers but one person can be more of a Punk Rocker than the other. Two people can be Lutherans but one person can be more Lutheran than the other. Two people can be Iranian but one can be more Iranian than the other. I do not see why this such a difficult concept.

I would take Ash Sarkar's claims to be a Communist as seriously as I would take those of a drunken and not particularly bright adolescent but I would take them more seriously than I would her claims to be a Muslim. I don't believe however the conspiracy theories about her being a CIA agent or deliberately out to sabotage the Hard Left. Tadgh though was a completely different character.

Are you economically a Libertarian?

 

[AN2]

Tiger is a fucking dope.

Amen

 

[AN2]

Yes more Irish. Two people can be both Punk Rockers but one person can be more of a Punk Rocker than the other. Two people can be Lutherans but one person can be more Lutheran than the other. Two people can be Iranian but one can be more Iranian than the other. I do not see why this such a difficult concept.

I would take Ash Sarkar's claims to be a Communist as seriously as I would take those of a drunken and not particularly bright adolescent but I would take them more seriously than I would her claims to be a Muslim. I don't believe however the conspiracy theories about her being a CIA agent or deliberately out to sabotage the Hard Left. Tadgh though was a completely different character.

I don't really think of an Irish person more or less Irish than another Irish person.

One can be a scumbag Marxist, like a shinnerbot, and be fully Irish.

Parlon and Jack Walsh would be equally Irish to me, but neither of them are nationalists. Jack Walsh of course should be shot with pellets of his own shite, Parlon sent for further education

Are you economically a Libertarian?

I don't really care about the economy.

Maybe I would if something drastic happened

 

[SwordOfStZip]

One can be a scumbag Marxist, like a shinnerbot, and be fully Irish.

Parlon and Jack Walsh would be equally Irish to me, but neither of them are nationalists. Jack Walsh of course should be shot with pellets of his own shite, Parlon sent for further education

LOL the Shinners are not Marxist at all, they had Marxists in them back in the 1980s and 1990s but we are a long way from than now. The are 21 st century North American "Progressive" and hence they emote a lot more than they analyze which they would do if they were actually Marxist or even just Marxian. "Fenian Boy" and "popular1" have been the most Marxist posters in terms of their arguments on that thread (and both of course are opposing mass immigration).

Jack Walsh would support you if you became the Establishment- or maybe you would have to become the Establishment in New York, Paris and London first. Kevin Parlon comes across as a True Believer but hard to know.

 

[AN2]

LOL the Shinners are not Marxist at all

Ah..

they had Marxists in them back in the 1980s and 1990s but we are a long way from than now. The are 21 st century North American "Progressive"

.. Jaysus

and hence they emote a lot more than they analyze which they would do if they were actually Marxist or even just Marxian. "Fenian Boy" and "popular1" have been the most Marxist posters in terms of their arguments on that thread (and both of course are opposing mass immigration).

Jack Walsh would support you if you became the Establishment- or maybe you would have to become the Establishment in New York, Paris and London first. Kevin Parlon comes across as a True Believer but hard to know.

 

[AN2]

Tiger doesn't think that I have a drop of Irish blood in me

Tiger is a fucking dope.

Amen

Has anyone else noticed that Tiger is very similiar to the Gowler at the Moon

He doesn't know the difference between a nationalist and someone who has a nationality or ethnicity (almost everyone (excluding mixed race people))