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OK ~ ~ Jordan Peterson is suffering from over-exposure, but he has brought up some, interesting debates / talking points.

I would say that Overall = = Jordan Peterson is generally a force for good.

He ain't right on every thing = = Who is ?

Even, I ain't right on everything and I am checking my own home-work !
 

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OK ~ ~ Jordan Peterson is suffering from over-exposure, but he has brought up some, interesting debates / talking points.

I would say that Overall = = Jordan Peterson is generally a force for good.

He ain't right on every thing = = Who is ?

Even, I ain't right on everything and I am checking my own home-work !

He is like Princess Diana Windsor in that his popularity, his becoming a cultural phenomena, is a significantly more interesting than he is.
 

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lol


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=22EeBNBCO4k

Btw, it's quite certain that the title was changed on the original video -


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Pwk5MPE_6zE

As per the top comment (40K upvotes at time of writing):

the way jubilee changed the title from “1 Christian vs 20 Atheists (ft. Jordan Peterson)” to “Jordan Peterson vs 20 Atheists” after 4 hours is so funny

Dreary me.


James this thread is simply more evidence of your lack of a formal education and your immaturity.

To characterise this spectacle as 'a Christian getting slapped around by 20 atheists' is itself a testimony to the degraded state of public understanding regarding both Christianity and intellectual combat. Jordan Peterson is no Christian in the historic, patristic, and traditional sense. He is a Jungian syncretist who invokes 'archetypes' and the 'symbolic Logos' while refusing to bend his knee to the actual and eternal Logos Incarnate—Jesus Christ, King of Kings. His refusal to confess Christ before men, in accord with Luke 12:9, places him firmly outside the Christian camp.

What we witnessed in that YouTube video was not a battle between Christianity and atheism, but a civil war between two factions of the Enlightenment: materialist atheists and psychological Gnostics. One camp denies God outright, the other redefines Him into something they can manage. Both are products of the same apostate modernity that deconstructed the Church and replaced the Faith with ideology, therapy, and dialectical babble.

The atheists in the video—obnoxious, smug, and adolescent in their rhetorical manner—are not attacking Christianity but rather a straw man of it. They reject not the Holy Trinity, nor the infallible Magisterium, nor the Blessed Virgin, but a caricature of 'religion' handed to them by apostate seminaries and postmodern spiritual confusion. Their mockery does not pierce the armor of Truth, because they have never once truly encountered it.

This is not a case of a lion being mauled by jackals; it's a goat among goats bleating louder than the rest. Peterson does not defend the Faith—he defends his abstractions. A true Christian would not mistake the verbal gymnastics of Jungian profundity for the faith of St. Athanasius, St. Augustine, or St. Thomas Aquinas.

If you want to see true Christian apologetics, look to the martyrs, the Doctors of the Church, and the defenders of the Latin Mass—not to the clinical psychologist who won’t even publicly affirm the Resurrection. The atheists were not wrestling with Christianity; they were shadowboxing with another modern myth. And they don’t even realise it.
 

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Jordan Peterson is a less a Christian than Bruce Jenner is a woman.
I wanted to add a poll to the OP.. but the facility doesn't seem to be available in this forum (Religion)

The poll would've been:

Is Jordan Peterson a Christian?

Yes
No
Not sure
 

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I wanted to add a poll to the OP.. but the facility doesn't seem to be available in this forum (Religion)

The poll would've been:

Is Jordan Peterson a Christian?

Yes
No
Not sure

What about definitely not as a choice?
 

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Dreary me.


James this thread is simply more evidence of your lack of a formal education and your immaturity.

To characterise this spectacle as 'a Christian getting slapped around by 20 atheists' is itself a testimony to the degraded state of public understanding regarding both Christianity and intellectual combat. Jordan Peterson is no Christian in the historic, patristic, and traditional sense. He is a Jungian syncretist who invokes 'archetypes' and the 'symbolic Logos' while refusing to bend his knee to the actual and eternal Logos Incarnate—Jesus Christ, King of Kings. His refusal to confess Christ before men, in accord with Luke 12:9, places him firmly outside the Christian camp.

What we witnessed in that YouTube video was not a battle between Christianity and atheism, but a civil war between two factions of the Enlightenment: materialist atheists and psychological Gnostics. One camp denies God outright, the other redefines Him into something they can manage. Both are products of the same apostate modernity that deconstructed the Church and replaced the Faith with ideology, therapy, and dialectical babble.

The atheists in the video—obnoxious, smug, and adolescent in their rhetorical manner—are not attacking Christianity but rather a straw man of it. They reject not the Holy Trinity, nor the infallible Magisterium, nor the Blessed Virgin, but a caricature of 'religion' handed to them by apostate seminaries and postmodern spiritual confusion. Their mockery does not pierce the armor of Truth, because they have never once truly encountered it.

This is not a case of a lion being mauled by jackals; it's a goat among goats bleating louder than the rest. Peterson does not defend the Faith—he defends his abstractions. A true Christian would not mistake the verbal gymnastics of Jungian profundity for the faith of St. Athanasius, St. Augustine, or St. Thomas Aquinas.

If you want to see true Christian apologetics, look to the martyrs, the Doctors of the Church, and the defenders of the Latin Mass—not to the clinical psychologist who won’t even publicly affirm the Resurrection. The atheists were not wrestling with Christianity; they were shadowboxing with another modern myth. And they don’t even realise it.
Tiglet headfirst in with his size eights again 🤣
 

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lol


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=22EeBNBCO4k

Btw, it's quite certain that the title was changed on the original video -


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Pwk5MPE_6zE

As per the top comment (40K upvotes at time of writing):

the way jubilee changed the title from “1 Christian vs 20 Atheists (ft. Jordan Peterson)” to “Jordan Peterson vs 20 Atheists” after 4 hours is so funny


Is it just me or do other people get the impression that Jordan Peterson has as a stylist some utterly "camp" character addicted to homosexuality?
 

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Even allowing for Jordan Peterson'w weakness ~ ~ He certainly has brought subjects forward for debate, that would Not have got nearly as much coverage without Jordan Peterson having pushed them along some-what !
 

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Even allowing for Jordan Peterson'w weakness ~ ~ He certainly has brought subjects forward for debate, that would Not have got nearly as much coverage without Jordan Peterson having pushed them along some-what !
Ideas like nationalism for Jews and individualism for wypipo (otherwise Nazi)
 

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Someone I know from a Jewish background told me vis a vis Jordan the events documented in the OP that she was reminded of the below passage in a classic piece of anti-Semitic anti-Jewish literature, not that she believes that Peterson is from a Jewish background, we both agree that is highly unlikely, but the carry on Professor Revilo P Oliver (who believed that the different human races were different species and not Jews formed their own race) accused educated Jews of Jordan Peterson is most definitely guilty of;

"....Our minds boggle when we try to understand such statements as Rabbi Solomon Goldman’s “God is absorbed [sic] in the nationalism of Israel... He [God] creates the world [sic] in the Hebrew language,” Dr. Joseph Kastein’s “It was not God who willed these people [the Jews]... It was this people [the Jews] who willed this God,” or any one of a hundred comparable statements, which seem to us to be the ravings of madness, but are only typical of the Jewish mind, which, we must remember, has regularly, throughout history, outwitted our race. We, of course, often remark that men create God in their own image, thus stating a psychological and anthropological truth, and what we mean by that statement is that gods do not exist, but are mere figments of the imagination, and if a man of our race, having thus affirmed his atheism, were then to profess belief in the divinity and reality of a god or gods, we should rightly adjudge him insane; but it is obvious that the Jewish mind sees no illogic in worshipping a god it has knowingly created – in worshipping its own image in a mirror. That is insanity – we cannot honestly call it anything else in our terminology – but it is the insanity of a species that has successfully preyed on all others for millennia and is now achieving ownership of the entire earth...."
 

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Someone I know from a Jewish background told me vis a vis Jordan the events documented in the OP that she was reminded of the below passage in a classic piece of anti-Semitic anti-Jewish literature, not that she believes that Peterson is from a Jewish background, we both agree that is highly unlikely, but the carry on Professor Revilo P Oliver (who believed that the different human races were different species and not Jews formed their own race) accused educated Jews of Jordan Peterson is most definitely guilty of;

"....Our minds boggle when we try to understand such statements as Rabbi Solomon Goldman’s “God is absorbed [sic] in the nationalism of Israel... He [God] creates the world [sic] in the Hebrew language,” Dr. Joseph Kastein’s “It was not God who willed these people [the Jews]... It was this people [the Jews] who willed this God,” or any one of a hundred comparable statements, which seem to us to be the ravings of madness, but are only typical of the Jewish mind, which, we must remember, has regularly, throughout history, outwitted our race. We, of course, often remark that men create God in their own image, thus stating a psychological and anthropological truth, and what we mean by that statement is that gods do not exist, but are mere figments of the imagination, and if a man of our race, having thus affirmed his atheism, were then to profess belief in the divinity and reality of a god or gods, we should rightly adjudge him insane; but it is obvious that the Jewish mind sees no illogic in worshipping a god it has knowingly created – in worshipping its own image in a mirror. That is insanity – we cannot honestly call it anything else in our terminology – but it is the insanity of a species that has successfully preyed on all others for millennia and is now achieving ownership of the entire earth...."
I see what you're saying

I always thought it was about money with Peterson, he wants to be a bit of an evangelist but at the same time he doesn't want to alienate his atheist audience
 

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I see what you're saying

I always thought it was about money with Peterson, he wants to be a bit of an evangelist but at the same time he doesn't want to alienate his atheist audience

I am more suggesting that Peterson believes that humans came up with the concept of God as a projection of our own selves- but than he turns around and worships his own self in the form of God. It is actually quite demonic I think for a Christian standpoint- worse than what you could call "ordinary atheism" anyway.
 

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I am more suggesting that Peterson believes that humans came up with the concept of God as a projection of our own selves- but than he turns around and worships his own self in the form of God. It is actually quite demonic I think for a Christian standpoint- worse than what you could call "ordinary atheism" anyway.
Yeah, sure

The idea wasn't projected directly onto Peterson of course, and I gathered it was more about Jews than "humans" (<- that's a statement that could be misinterpreted 😆)

Anyway, has anyone told @Tiger? Just yesterday he was the singing the truth of the Abrahamic religions..
 

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Tiglet headfirst in with his size eights again 🤣

Tiger is very correct on this.

Christians- especially "Conservative" Catholics in Ireland-need to draw a clear line of demarcation between Peterson and his waffling on one hand and us and the Faith on the other.

The thing also in general that people have to remember about Peterson is that he is a drug addict.
 

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Tiger is very correct on this.
On what?

Quote something from his post beginning with:

Dreary me.

James this thread is simply more evidence of your lack of a formal education and your immaturity.


At least

Christians- especially "Conservative" Catholics in Ireland-need to draw a clear line of demarcation between Peterson and his waffling on one hand and us and the Faith on the other.

The thing also in general that people have to remember about Peterson is that he is a drug addict.
 

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To characterise this spectacle as 'a Christian getting slapped around by 20 atheists' is itself a testimony to the degraded state of public understanding regarding both Christianity and intellectual combat. Jordan Peterson is no Christian in the historic, patristic, and traditional sense. He is a Jungian syncretist who invokes 'archetypes' and the 'symbolic Logos' while refusing to bend his knee to the actual and eternal Logos Incarnate—Jesus Christ, King of Kings. His refusal to confess Christ before men, in accord with Luke 12:9, places him firmly outside the Christian camp.

@AN2 there.
 

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So no part of your understanding here is that I don't believe that Peterson isn't a Christian.. He absolutely was not slapped around by twenty atheists, he was, because slapping Jordan Peterson around is easy?
 

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Dreary me.


James this thread is simply more evidence of your lack of a formal education and your immaturity.

To characterise this spectacle as 'a Christian getting slapped around by 20 atheists' is itself a testimony to the degraded state of public understanding regarding both Christianity and intellectual combat. Jordan Peterson is no Christian in the historic, patristic, and traditional sense. He is a Jungian syncretist who invokes 'archetypes' and the 'symbolic Logos' while refusing to bend his knee to the actual and eternal Logos Incarnate—Jesus Christ, King of Kings. His refusal to confess Christ before men, in accord with Luke 12:9, places him firmly outside the Christian camp.

What we witnessed in that YouTube video was not a battle between Christianity and atheism, but a civil war between two factions of the Enlightenment: materialist atheists and psychological Gnostics. One camp denies God outright, the other redefines Him into something they can manage. Both are products of the same apostate modernity that deconstructed the Church and replaced the Faith with ideology, therapy, and dialectical babble.

The atheists in the video—obnoxious, smug, and adolescent in their rhetorical manner—are not attacking Christianity but rather a straw man of it. They reject not the Holy Trinity, nor the infallible Magisterium, nor the Blessed Virgin, but a caricature of 'religion' handed to them by apostate seminaries and postmodern spiritual confusion. Their mockery does not pierce the armor of Truth, because they have never once truly encountered it.

This is not a case of a lion being mauled by jackals; it's a goat among goats bleating louder than the rest. Peterson does not defend the Faith—he defends his abstractions. A true Christian would not mistake the verbal gymnastics of Jungian profundity for the faith of St. Athanasius, St. Augustine, or St. Thomas Aquinas.

If you want to see true Christian apologetics, look to the martyrs, the Doctors of the Church, and the defenders of the Latin Mass—not to the clinical psychologist who won’t even publicly affirm the Resurrection. The atheists were not wrestling with Christianity; they were shadowboxing with another modern myth. And they don’t even realise it.
You are correct , not alone is he not a christian but he is subservient to Zionism and has recently become hated for his hasbara /fraud .
i watched a group of students and young students at that ---- take the intellectual flesh from his bones and they all smelled blood before it started .
he is now hunted mercilessly by anyone with more than 2 brain cells .
see his last appearance on joe rogan .
 

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Someone I know from a Jewish background told me vis a vis Jordan the events documented in the OP that she was reminded of the below passage in a classic piece of anti-Semitic anti-Jewish literature, not that she believes that Peterson is from a Jewish background, we both agree that is highly unlikely, but the carry on Professor Revilo P Oliver (who believed that the different human races were different species and not Jews formed their own race) accused educated Jews of Jordan Peterson is most definitely guilty of;

"....Our minds boggle when we try to understand such statements as Rabbi Solomon Goldman’s “God is absorbed [sic] in the nationalism of Israel... He [God] creates the world [sic] in the Hebrew language,” Dr. Joseph Kastein’s “It was not God who willed these people [the Jews]... It was this people [the Jews] who willed this God,” or any one of a hundred comparable statements, which seem to us to be the ravings of madness, but are only typical of the Jewish mind, which, we must remember, has regularly, throughout history, outwitted our race. We, of course, often remark that men create God in their own image, thus stating a psychological and anthropological truth, and what we mean by that statement is that gods do not exist, but are mere figments of the imagination, and if a man of our race, having thus affirmed his atheism, were then to profess belief in the divinity and reality of a god or gods, we should rightly adjudge him insane; but it is obvious that the Jewish mind sees no illogic in worshipping a god it has knowingly created – in worshipping its own image in a mirror. That is insanity – we cannot honestly call it anything else in our terminology – but it is the insanity of a species that has successfully preyed on all others for millennia and is now achieving ownership of the entire earth...."
that is a superb post and the people being addressed are Talmudic Jews not torah Semitic Jews --why do you state it is antisemitic .
this post of yours is why i am here --i never heard of prof p Oliver or the clarity of his thought and you have made my morning thank you .
 

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that is a superb post and the people being addressed are Talmudic Jews not torah Semitic Jews --why do you state it is antisemitic .
this post of yours is why i am here --i never heard of prof p Oliver or the clarity of his thought and you have made my morning thank you .

It is from a short book, really an essay called "The Jewish Strategy" which is really over the top. You can probably find it on archive.org. It is from the chapter "A Unique Mentality" which does actually capture well things about certain types of people from Jewish backgrounds, a minority of people from Jewish backgrounds it has to be said, but a minority that I find particularly off putting and disturbing even.
 

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You are correct , not alone is he not a christian but he is subservient to Zionism and has recently become hated for his hasbara /fraud .
i watched a group of students and young students at that ---- take the intellectual flesh from his bones and they all smelled blood before it started .
he is now hunted mercilessly by anyone with more than 2 brain cells .
see his last appearance on joe rogan .

The thing that you always have to remember about Peterson is that he is a drug addict.
 

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It is from a short book, really an essay called "The Jewish Strategy" which is really over the top. You can probably find it on archive.org. It is from the chapter "A Unique Mentality" which does actually capture well things about certain types of people from Jewish backgrounds, a minority of people from Jewish backgrounds it has to be said, but a minority that I find particularly off putting and disturbing even.
Last year i would have agreed with you --however i am shocked by the control of the planet these people have .
in my country Ireland this week thousands of people intending to travel to Israeli occupied USA are deleting their intellectual cultural history all their conversations with the human race have to be deleted as they cannot take the chance somebody they had a conversation with is on THE LIST and they will be on THE LIST unless they digitally disengage from humanity and never ABSOLUTELY NEVER AGAIN say what they mean or say what they understand to be the truth .
all must now avoid any truth as it is dangerous .
now it has emerged that most of the VIPN companies are Israeli owned and are sending the contents of their SECRET/PRIVATE VIPN data to mossad to totally fuck up your professional/student life .
it has also emerged they have also purchased the most prominent sites which recommend/professionally review the most private un- corruptible VIPN which now carry prominent ads for Israeli owned VIPN with naturally glowing recommendations for the unwary.
everywhere they rule --they toppled the Corbyn labour goverment in waiting and installed the totally despised Zionist starmer .
we yesterday could not get our parliament the dail to stop selling Israeli war bonds to murder children in Gaza and our TV screens are dripping in blood --the shredded children are on our carpets it is so vivid and yet we do not rule our own country .
 

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Last year i would have agreed with you --however i am shocked by the control of the planet these people have .
in my country Ireland this week thousands of people intending to travel to Israeli occupied USA are deleting their intellectual cultural history all their conversations with the human race have to be deleted as they cannot take the chance somebody they had a conversation with is on THE LIST and they will be on THE LIST unless they digitally disengage from humanity and never ABSOLUTELY NEVER AGAIN say what they mean or say what they understand to be the truth .
all must now avoid any truth as it is dangerous .
now it has emerged that most of the VIPN companies are Israeli owned and are sending the contents of their SECRET/PRIVATE VIPN data to mossad to totally fuck up your professional/student life .
it has also emerged they have also purchased the most prominent sites which recommend/professionally review the most private un- corruptible VIPN which now carry prominent ads for Israeli owned VIPN with naturally glowing recommendations for the unwary.
everywhere they rule --they toppled the Corbyn labour goverment in waiting and installed the totally despised Zionist starmer .
we yesterday could not get our parliament the dail to stop selling Israeli war bonds to murder children in Gaza and our TV screens are dripping in blood --the shredded children are on our carpets it is so vivid and yet we do not rule our own country .

The people who anger me the most in all this are neither the Zionists themselves or those who facilitate them for pay and/or promotion but rather the likes of Clanrickard and Myles who with nothing to gain from it cheer on the whole monsterous process.
 

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I am more suggesting that Peterson believes that humans came up with the concept of God as a projection of our own selves- but than he turns around and worships his own self in the form of God. It is actually quite demonic I think for a Christian standpoint- worse than what you could call "ordinary atheism" anyway.
Isn't that what Christians do with the Nazarene?
 
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They expect to be taken seriously.

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Sarsfield's two alcoholics think they are smarter than the man with the world's highest IQ.

They expect to be taken seriously.

Interesting.
Collin Rugg is the man with the world's highest IQ?
 

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Collin Rugg is the man with the world's highest IQ?
lol Did PISH-heads realise his/her mistake

Imagine not being able to read
 

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