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Ukrainian tank crews have been faking malfunctions on their tanks to justify not going into combat against Russian forces, fellow soldiers operating German Leopards have told Der Spiegel magazine. The revelation was part of a frontline report published by the news outlet.

The magazine spoke to three German-trained Ukrainian troops who were among the crew of two Leopard 2A6 tanks provided to Kiev by the Bundeswehr.

Why would any decent Ukrainian want to fight for Terrorist America in their proxy war against the good people of Russia?
 

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Why would any decent Ukrainian want to fight for Terrorist America in their proxy war against the good people of Russia?
That's brainwashing and who knows what else for you!
Can and will happen again anywhere!
That's the horrible reality.
 

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Trouble is, it's not about the battle anymore, but the optics. The Neocons need to be seen to be winning, or fighting their way to victory at the very least.
They don't need a win but can't take a loss. So the story now being pushed is a stalemate lasting years. That is not feasible and it is likely that Russia will drain Ukraine and grab the entire east and south.
 
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They don't need a win but can't take a loss. So the story now being pushed is a stalemate lasting years. That is not feasible and it is like that Russia will drain Ukraine and Google the entire east and south.
Exactly so.
 
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Yawn......

On the other hand Russian Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu briefed Russian President Vladimir Putin -

- The Ukrainian military suffered significant losses over the last 16 days of combat operations, "the enemy has reduced its activity, is currently regrouping."

- "The enemy still has the strength to carry out further offensive actions, despite the heavy losses in both equipment and personnel."

- Russian servicemen are preparing for the Ukrainian attacks, "preparations are underway for further offensive actions, including those on our part."

- The number of foreign-made weapons delivered to Ukraine will not significantly affect combat operations, "especially considering the fact that the overwhelming majority of the vehicles are of the previous generation". The Defense Ministry does not see "any threats here."

- "Of the Western-made armored fighting vehicles, 59 were disabled. Of the 109 Bradley fighting vehicles supplied to Kiev by the West, 18 were knocked out of action."


Just on that last point, weren't the Bradleys meant to be game changers? Losing just under 17% of them in taking the odd cow shed with Khazi attached doesn't strike me as any great progress..
 

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The AFU have lost at least 14K troops since the 14th. They are currently assembling a full general assault force drawing on reserves in Kiev to launch on the Russian front lines because so far, the counteroffensive has yet to result in any meaningful retaking of territory or advantage.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eypXIh4ONrg
 

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The AFU have lost at least 14K troops since the 14th. They are currently assembling a full general assault force drawing on reserves in Kiev to launch on the Russian front lines because so far, the counteroffensive has yet to result in any meaningful retaking of territory or advantage.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eypXIh4ONrg

More people to the American Terrorist slaughter machine..
 

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I see Putin is bringing forward legislation to chemically castrated pedophiles soon.
No wonder some here hate him do much.
I'll post the article later.
 
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Ukraine can hardly have lost 14000 in a few days
Apparently so -

According to the Russian Defense Ministry, Ukrainian forces have been making futile offensive attempts since June 4. On June 22, Russian Security Council Secretary Nikolay Patrushev said that Ukraine has lost over 13,000 personnel since the beginning of the counteroffensive.

 

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Entire unit of AFU destroyed trying to evac.


View: https://twitter.com/MyLordBebo/status/1671988567155826696?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1671988567155826696%7Ctwgr%5E4b68718af248d980d97da5cb9ffb3f40013281e2%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fpatriots.win%2Frising%3Ffrom%3D16bPnsuTIW



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So this is the bridge that the Ukies supposedly destroyed along with Russia's ability to resupply.

Yeah.....Nah...


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I am banned off twitter, don't use it but any source is OK. I do wish I could send you out to Ukraine
to experience a missile strike and see ya shit in your knickerbockers.
That's the problem for everyone here or on any site.
Or anyone who lives in the states and EU land.
Nobody bar the very elderly know what a total war is like.
What a 155 round going off within 150 meters of you will do to internal organs and hearing from the blast alone.
Too many glib responses.
Maybe people should see more of the pictures of the consequences on the human body of same.
Ask Palestinians Iraqis Russians Ukrainians to name but a few.
We know nothing.
If all the gung ho slime like Blinken, Bojo Schlozt Nuland Baerbock had to sit a artillery barrage out.
Attitudes would change.
These are the same morons constantly escalations this war.
Let them sit through an hour or so first of the real thing.
Like the victims for days.
 

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As Vox points out, the best and brightest from the western nations, that can't even tell the difference between male and female anymore, are unlikely to be able to suddenly remember that imagination never trumps reality.
We have seen this in the Climate scam computer models, and now we are seeing it in western war gaming simulation. Seems NATO concocted a fantasy desktop gaming scenario to goad Ukrainian officers into throwing themselves like lemmings, onto Russian defenses:

 

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This could be one of three things.

1. It could be real. This is likely the least probable.

2. It could be a replay of the stunt pulled a month ago to draw in more Ukes to the slaughter.

3. It could be just a deep fake and total rubbish to try to crack the Russians.
 

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It's just the foggy propaganda of war, don't look too deeply, it's there to sow confusion for you the reader.
Just look at the gains and the losses - Leopards have proven to be a hazard to operate or travel in.
No one wants to get inside the mobile trundeling crematoriums , you would'nt blame them - Nothing to gain, all to lose!!
 
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This could be one of three things.

1. It could be real. This is likely the least probable.

2. It could be a replay of the stunt pulled a month ago to draw in more Ukes to the slaughter.

3. It could be just a deep fake and total rubbish to try to crack the Russians.
He’s a mercenary, maybe the yanks have offered double the money.
 

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He’s a mercenary, maybe the yanks have offered double the money.
I doubt that.

It is possible that he has served his purpose. The war has been won and Putin is taking him out.

We shall see over the weekend.
 

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I doubt that.

It is possible that he has served his purpose. The war has been won and Putin is taking him out.

We shall see over the weekend.
I'm still not convinced that the entire thing isn't a Russian Psyop.
 

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I note that Alexander mercoulas has no video today so he must be getting info to discuss it tomorrow
 
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I doubt that.

It is possible that he has served his purpose. The war has been won and Putin is taking him out.

We shall see over the weekend.
The war is not won yet, not until the Ukrainian army stands down, and there is no sign of the neocon ghouls allowing that to happen.
 

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Well three weeks into the failed counteroffendive is the same as the battle of the bulge having run out of steam.

It is just a case of how many more Germans will be killed.
 

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Just for clarity for all the Ukraine defenders.

Wagner are Hard line, their beef with Putin was that he was too soft on Ukraine.

There are 2 possible scenarios unfolding here,

1) Wagner who work for the highest bidder have taken American money to attack Russia from the inside.

2) Wagner want a tougher stance against the West and Ukraine and are backed by hardliners in Russia.

Possible outcomes,

1) The Wagner group supported by the West, take control of Russia, Putin removed, end of the Ukraine conflict. Drag shows in red square for 2024.

2) Wagner take control of Russia, Putin removed from power, Hardliners take control and declare war against the West.

3) Putin defeats Wagner, blames US money and moves the Ukraine War into a war against NATO.
 

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Full on NATO backed coup in Russia it seems. No way WAGNER is doing this without backup. Recent NATO war games got everything in place no doubt. Is this where all the missing billions went?
 

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Just for clarity for all the Ukraine defenders.

Wagner are Hard line, their beef with Putin was that he was too soft on Ukraine.

There are 2 possible scenarios unfolding here,

1) Wagner who work for the highest bidder have taken American money to attack Russia from the inside.

2) Wagner want a tougher stance against the West and Ukraine and are backed by hardliners in Russia.

Possible outcomes,

1) The Wagner group supported by the West, take control of Russia, Putin removed, end of the Ukraine conflict. Drag shows in red square for 2024.

2) Wagner take control of Russia, Putin removed from power, Hardliners take control and declare war against the West.

3) Putin defeats Wagner, blames US money and moves the Ukraine War into a war against NATO.
Putin was playing the rope-a-dope routine, slowly but surely letting Ukraine exhaust itself of men and materiel on her flanks. Only an idiot could not see this. I smell massive bribery and payouts to get this coup going.
 

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