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    Who really killed Michael Collins?

    I only go where the evidence leads me, I think a lot of that period is in need of a fresh look (which I did in the 'conspiracy theory' book.) Realistically if he was in British Intelligence during the two World Wars, which seems reasonably well proven, then its got to be quite possible that he...
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    Who really killed Michael Collins?

    I think he was even the producer for 'the spy who came in from the cold', shot in Dublin
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    Who really killed Michael Collins?

    This is from the 'Conspiracy Theories' book: This was Pat Moylett, a Mayo businessman and long term political activist who conducted negotiations on behalf of Griffith with the British Cabinet in 1920, who described how Dev had set up a kind of kitchen cabinet including Childers, who was also a...
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    Who really killed Michael Collins?

    No he was in an open "touring car", I think a Leyland. It was open meaning a canvass roof which was pulled down. True I don't think anybody had much training as sort of VIP protection, but for ambushes yes. There were quite a few anti-Treaty people who were ex British army. The famous Sonny...
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    Who really killed Michael Collins?

    But most of the people involved in this stage of the Irish Civil War had very extensive training. They typically emerged from either the First World War or War of Independence, and the latter veterans were training, quite intensively, from about 1913. Most of the time from the Truce to then...
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    Who really killed Michael Collins?

    Usually they say that the ambush was kind of a defensive measure, to delay the Free State from capturing all the big anti-Treaty that were around the area. Also that the ambush had been called off effectively with only about 5 or 6 people hanging around (not including Sonny O'Neill it seems) who...
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    Who really killed Michael Collins?

    Its depressing to admit... Anyway space is where its at soon enough, I have no idea when but before 2030 I assume. Meaning the great alien hoax thing, which I was waffling about here: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058256768/the-drive-towards-a-world-totalitarian-government/p1 .
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    Who really killed Michael Collins?

    And like if I was on a barstool in the US in say 1970, and said that about those 4 politicians, and threw in some facts like that Hoover was actually protecting the mafia in the FBI, and covering up for the JFK killers, which are all accepted facts to a wide number now like Roger Stone, then my...
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    Who really killed Michael Collins?

    Yes, absolutely. The depressing thing in modern Ireland is that for so many politicians you don't need to do anything like that. They will just follow instructions from the EU and other international bodies, that will destroy Ireland and they either don't realise that, or just couldn't care...
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    Who really killed Michael Collins?

    Many many thanks for your kind comments, and I hope you like the books, anyway I think the truth really is stranger than fiction. Here is a curious reference that I didn't know before anyway, from wikipedia on General Wilson: "Wilson privately suspected Lloyd George of being "a traitor & a...
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    Who really killed Michael Collins?

    Yes and the point is Val that Collins was seeking out the senior Republicans, who were all in that area on that day, including De Valera, in order to move forward with his peace proposals.
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    Who really killed Michael Collins?

    Many thanks Anderson et al, anyway just to rehash some points there in case they are a little confusing: Immediately before the outbreak of the Civil War the anti-Treaty side were supplied by arms given to them by Collins from British Army stocks that the Free State were getting. This seemed to...
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    Who really killed Michael Collins?

    By the way Emmet's family, or his nephew anyway, also believed that he did it, as pointed out in this reference from the catalogue of the O'Mahony papers in the National Library (I got that reference from Talk Back on www.politicalirish.com .): .
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    Who really killed Michael Collins?

    Footnotes ‘O’Cuinneagain’ below is Michael O’Cuinneagain, On the Arm of Time (Tanatallon, Donegal Town, 1992) and ‘Lenihan’ is Denis Lenihan, The Death of Michael Collins, Who Pulled the Trigger (2014). O’Cuinneagain was the son of Patrick Cunningham, MP for Tyrone, and whose family are involved...
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    Who really killed Michael Collins?

    Emmet Dalton The convoy that emerged around the corner at Béal na Blath held not only Collins, but also the senior National Army figure at that time in Cork, Major General Emmet Dalton, who had commanded the forces that took the Four Courts which started the war. From a Nationalist family in...
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    Who really killed Michael Collins?

    Whatever about the official story, the reality appears to be that Collins was a very unpopular man with the British and Irish governments at the time of his death at Béal na Blath, so unpopular as possibly to lead to his killing by these governments, as many people then and since have always...

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