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So have you read the chapter on the Thomist proofs? Yes its true that Aquinas draws on Aristotle a lot, but no harm in that and he was generous in acknowledging his debt to the great philosopher.

Its a Catholic Christian Deity, and whats wrong with a pdf? Its only a small size, easy to download and you can find what you want easily via the table of contents and index.

David if you look at the kind of FAQ Appendix you will see that was one of the atheist questions that was answered.

Its a nearly 300 page book?!!! But look you might find some chapters easy enough to read?

If anybody wants to study the Proofs of God's Existence there might be a few chapters here that might help you: http://www.orwellianireland.com/proofs.pdf .

But don't you get my point, its impossible to argue against a black hole like that? You would need to elaborate on that I think if you want a proper debate.

Well if you mean what are my views on it, my views are the same as in the traditional Catholic Church, so in that sense my opinions on this are an open book?

When you say: "Its impossible to reason them out of their mindset", I think the real point is that its impossible if you don't know what their mind set is. A lot of these arguments are circular that way, when you argue back against a point that Dawkins said, for example, the reply is often "I...

Can I just say on this question, you have to have an unprejudiced open mind on it and you have to study it. You hear all these stories about a priest looking cross eyed at some fella when they were 10 and ever since they knew atheism was the way to go. You still believe Moscow is the capital...