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<blockquote data-quote="A Man Called Charolais" data-source="post: 75047"><p>Similar to what Bossche is talking about, although his warning is about a more virulent strain later this year that will knock out a large proportion of the vaccinated population whose immune systems have been dismantled.</p><p></p><p>This guy is talking about something like the genesis of<a href="https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Phage" target="_blank"> the Phage</a> in Star Trek.</p><p></p><p></p><p>'... you see signs that <strong>the COVID vaccines induce tolerance against the Spike protein</strong>. The <a href="https://www.rintrah.nl/the-trainwreck-of-all-trainwrecks-billions-of-people-stuck-with-a-broken-immune-response/" target="_blank">most noticeable sign</a>, is the transition from an IgG3 antibody response (the sort your body normally uses to protect itself against viruses) to an IgG4 antibody response (an antibody that is much worse at neutralizing viral particles than IgG3 and discourages immune cells from destroying infected cells).</p><p></p><p>...</p><p></p><p>[Normally] when you get infected by SARS2, <strong>it’s your own immune system that makes you feel sick</strong>, not the virus. Your immune system goes on high alert and tries to get rid of this virus. The symptoms you experience, are all one variety or another of your immune system fighting this virus. Fever? Heating you up to kill viruses. Sneezing, coughing? Expunging viral particles from your body. Exhausted, in pain? That’s mostly due to inflammation.</p><p></p><p>...</p><p></p><p>[The vaccine stops these symptoms but] <strong>just because your body stopped fighting this virus, does not mean this virus stops harming you</strong>. This is a virus that infects the endothelium, the cells lining your blood vessels. <strong>So what does it look like, when your body doesn’t bother fighting a virus that infects these cells?</strong> You may feel fine, but then you suffer an unexpected heart attack or stroke. You died of COVID, but because the vaccine discouraged your immune system from fighting the virus, your death did not look like a COVID death.</p><p></p><p>...</p><p></p><p>I’m sure that during Delta, these vaccines prevented people who received them from dying. <strong>Perhaps there is still protection from severe outcomes today.</strong></p><p></p><p>But at what cost?'</p><p></p><p>So, what he's saying is that the vaccine is a sticking plaster. It stops people getting symptoms by stopping the body from fighting the virus. This means they don't develop a cytokine storm which put a lot of people with underlying morbidities into ICU. </p><p></p><p>However, he argues, it essentially makes the vaccinated into Petri dishes who become vessels that cultivate new strains and act as asymptomatic spreaders. The evidence that this concern has become a reality is very high levels of the virus in wastewater samples - Dutch data being his example here. He is not saying that the vaccine itself is the cause of harm, he's saying that the solution the vaccine uses has profound medium to long term consequences.</p><p></p><p>Not much we can do about it other than to avoid mRNA vaccines. The dice will roll.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="A Man Called Charolais, post: 75047"] Similar to what Bossche is talking about, although his warning is about a more virulent strain later this year that will knock out a large proportion of the vaccinated population whose immune systems have been dismantled. This guy is talking about something like the genesis of[URL='https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Phage'] the Phage[/URL] in Star Trek. '... you see signs that [B]the COVID vaccines induce tolerance against the Spike protein[/B]. The [URL='https://www.rintrah.nl/the-trainwreck-of-all-trainwrecks-billions-of-people-stuck-with-a-broken-immune-response/']most noticeable sign[/URL], is the transition from an IgG3 antibody response (the sort your body normally uses to protect itself against viruses) to an IgG4 antibody response (an antibody that is much worse at neutralizing viral particles than IgG3 and discourages immune cells from destroying infected cells). ... [Normally] when you get infected by SARS2, [B]it’s your own immune system that makes you feel sick[/B], not the virus. Your immune system goes on high alert and tries to get rid of this virus. The symptoms you experience, are all one variety or another of your immune system fighting this virus. Fever? Heating you up to kill viruses. Sneezing, coughing? Expunging viral particles from your body. Exhausted, in pain? That’s mostly due to inflammation. ... [The vaccine stops these symptoms but] [B]just because your body stopped fighting this virus, does not mean this virus stops harming you[/B]. This is a virus that infects the endothelium, the cells lining your blood vessels. [B]So what does it look like, when your body doesn’t bother fighting a virus that infects these cells?[/B] You may feel fine, but then you suffer an unexpected heart attack or stroke. You died of COVID, but because the vaccine discouraged your immune system from fighting the virus, your death did not look like a COVID death. ... I’m sure that during Delta, these vaccines prevented people who received them from dying. [B]Perhaps there is still protection from severe outcomes today.[/B] But at what cost?' So, what he's saying is that the vaccine is a sticking plaster. It stops people getting symptoms by stopping the body from fighting the virus. This means they don't develop a cytokine storm which put a lot of people with underlying morbidities into ICU. However, he argues, it essentially makes the vaccinated into Petri dishes who become vessels that cultivate new strains and act as asymptomatic spreaders. The evidence that this concern has become a reality is very high levels of the virus in wastewater samples - Dutch data being his example here. He is not saying that the vaccine itself is the cause of harm, he's saying that the solution the vaccine uses has profound medium to long term consequences. Not much we can do about it other than to avoid mRNA vaccines. The dice will roll. [/QUOTE]
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