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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tiger" data-source="post: 133897" data-attributes="member: 353">Your answer shows exactly how shallow your position is. You've given it no thought whatsoever.You're asserting that morality — empathy in this case — emerged from reciprocal survival strategies ("you scratch my back...") and became "hardwired." That’s a popular evolutionary psychology narrative, but it’s not science — it’s speculative storytelling dressed up in Darwinian terminology. There is no empirical evidence showing how selfless empathy — especially at great personal cost — could have evolved from blind natural selection. If natural selection favors reproductive success, why do we lionize people who die for strangers?Moreover, if morality is just "what helped us survive," then by that logic, rape, infanticide, and tribal genocide — all of which occur in nature and human history — are just as "evolved." Are they therefore morally good? If not, you’ve got a problem: you’re trying to get “ought” from “is,” and that move has been philosophically bankrupt since David Hume identified the fallacy 300 years ago.You also claimed empathy became “hardwired.” How, precisely? Show me the genes for empathy. Demonstrate the molecular mechanism by which “you scratch my back” mutates into weeping over a starving child in a documentary. That leap — from chemical incentive to abstract moral sentiment — isn’t explained by biology. It’s merely assumed. That’s not science. That’s mythology — a materialist creation myth.And then you close with a swipe at God — claiming He "forgot" the psychopaths. But in your own view, psychopathy isn’t a defect, it's just another evolutionary variant. Why shouldn’t the psychopath rule, lie, and kill if it gets him ahead? Your system has no authority to say he’s wrong — only that he’s maladaptive according to your preferences.So let’s be clear:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">You have no science showing how moral awareness evolves.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">You offer no grounding for why empathy is good or binding.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">You assume evolution gave us “morality,” but dismiss the millions of evolutionary behaviors we now condemn.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">You mock theism, but then borrow its framework to claim moral judgments that only make sense if humans are more than meat.</li> </ul>If your worldview were true, we'd still be in caves — not arguing about ethics online.</blockquote>

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