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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tiger" data-source="post: 135015" data-attributes="member: 353">You’ve made a common error in suggesting that the Big Bang theory “has nothing to say” about t = 0, and in doing so, you inadvertently confirm the deeper problem: you’re left with no mechanism to explain why the universe exists at all. The singularity theorems of Hawking and Penrose don’t merely label a moment as t = 0—they demonstrate, under general relativity, that time, space, matter, and energy all came into being at that point. There is no “before” in physical terms, because time itself begins there.The crucial issue is not semantics but causality. Once time begins, you cannot appeal to physical causes, because causality in physics is temporal. You therefore need a cause that is outside of time and space, which means non-physical, immaterial, timeless, and enormously powerful—i.e., a metaphysical cause. This strengthens, not weakens, the classical argument for a Creator.Now to your claim that there was some “hot dense state” before the Big Bang: this is speculative at best and incoherent at worst. A “hot dense state” requires energy, and energy presupposes spacetime structure and physical laws in which it can exist and interact. But those laws and that structure didn’t exist before the Big Bang. You’re smuggling in physical realities without accounting for their origin. You cannot have temperature or density without time, space, and matter—and those came into being with the Big Bang. You’re effectively suggesting that physics existed before the framework of physics existed. That’s not science—it’s science fiction.Finally, when someone says, “I don’t believe the Big Bang because I don’t believe something came from nothing,” that is a valid philosophical objection—not to the Big Bang as a model of cosmic evolution, but to the materialist interpretations of its origin. If your version of the theory assumes a self-caused universe emerging from literal nothingness or an unexplained pre-physical quantum foam, it’s entirely rational to reject that as metaphysically absurd.The Big Bang is a what, not a why. And once we ask “why is there something rather than nothing?”, materialism has no answer—because only minds create reasons.</blockquote>

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