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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tiger" data-source="post: 135099" data-attributes="member: 353">What you’ve responded with is simply more of the pretentious evasions of the New Atheist mindset. Materialism’s refusal to consider metaphysical causes is not “empirical,” it’s ideological.The Hartle-Hawking model rebrands the beginning of time with abstract math to dodge a transcendent Cause. Calling time “emergent” doesn’t explain why anything exists. You’ve simply relocated the mystery into a domain inaccessible to scrutiny—intellectually dishonest, not enlightened.Ah yes, the dualism dodge.Yes, reality is dualistic. Logic, mathematics, consciousness—all immaterial realities. Claiming that the cause of the material world must be physical is a category error. Quantum fields or multiverses are not self-existent—they are part of the same contingent order needing explanation.Calling something “necessary” isn’t arbitrary—it’s logical. Infinite regress is incoherent. The universe demands a First Cause that is uncaused, eternal, and metaphysically sufficient. Quantum foam doesn’t answer the question—it just postpones it with more speculative layers.Quantum vacuum fluctuations are not nothing—they presuppose space, time, laws, and mathematical structure. These don’t arise from non-being. Real power is not brute force, but the ability to create being itself. A vacuum fluctuation can’t tune physical constants or generate intelligibility.The anthropic principle explains nothing—it’s a tautology. We observe a life-permitting universe because we’re alive? That’s not causation. Fine-tuning remains a precise, measurable reality. The multiverse is an untestable excuse to avoid the clear inference of design.Also, intelligence isn’t a projection—it’s the only category that explains order, meaning, and rationality. To claim that blind, purposeless forces birthed minds capable of mathematics, art, and morality is not reason—it’s fantasy. Intelligence must come from intelligence.And the tired “God of the gaps” fallacy? This isn’t about plugging holes in ignorance. We’re confronting the intelligibility of everything. Biological life appears suddenly in the fossil record. NDEs display astonishing cross-cultural consistency. The Shroud of Turin defies natural explanation. These are not gaps—they are data.You demand “empirical evidence”? You’re standing in it. The rational mind you use to deny God is made in His image. The law-bound cosmos you inhabit proclaims design. The very fact that logic, morality, and consciousness exist points to a transcendent source.The real question is not why some believe in God—but why others go to such desperate, unscientific lengths to avoid Him.</blockquote>

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