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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tiger" data-source="post: 135140" data-attributes="member: 353">Firstly, Penrose had nothing of note to say in the video you posted. Multiverses are literally fantasy. There isn’t evidence for 1 other universe never mind an infinite number of universes.The reason that he desperately clings to the made up multiverse theory might have something to do with the fact that he himself calculated the improbability of the universe’s initial low-entropy state as 1 in 10^10^123, highlighting the extreme fine tuning required. Go figure. Secondly, the image was not AI generated, it came from a pal of mine at work who produced it in a debate we were having with some other co-workers. Its origin is irrelevant. What’s noteworthy is that what it posits is true. The shroud is actual data and multiverse theory is an imaginary tale.Thirdly, it doesn’t surprise me that your knowledge of the Shroud is back in 1988. You clearly read as many (zero) books as James has, so you are not well informed.A 2024 study led by Dr. Liberato De Caro from Italy's Institute of Crystallography employed WAXS (Wide-Angle X-ray Scattering) to analyze the structural degradation of the shroud's linen fibers. The results suggest the fabric dates back approximately 2,000 years, aligning with the first century AD. This finding contrasts with the 1988 radiocarbon dating that placed the shroud in the medieval period, between 1260 and 1390. The discrepancy was due to contamination or the sampling of repaired sections of the cloth, not the original cloth.<a href="https://aleteia.org/2024/08/24/new-study-suggests-shroud-of-turin-is-2000-years-old" target="_blank">https://aleteia.org/2024/08/24/new-study-suggests-shroud-of-turin-is-2000-years-old</a><a href="https://zenit.org/2024/08/28/new-scientific-study-proves-that-the-holy-shroud-dates-back-to-jesus-christs-time/?utm_source=chatgpt.com" target="_blank">New Scientific Study Proves That The Holy Shroud Dates Back to Jesus Christ’s Time - ZENIT - English</a>In addition, researcher William Meacham conducted isotopic analyses comparing the shroud's flax fibers to samples from Europe and the Middle East. The study found that the shroud's fibers closely match those from the Levant region, supporting the hypothesis of a Middle Eastern origin.<a href="https://aleteia.org/2024/04/04/new-analysis-of-shroud-of-turin-points-to-levant-origin" target="_blank">https://aleteia.org/2024/04/04/new-analysis-of-shroud-of-turin-points-to-levant-origin</a>There was also a study to analyse the bloodstains and trauma - Professor Giulio Fanti of the University of Padua analysed the bloodstains on the shroud, identifying three distinct types: premortem, postmortem, and serum separation. These findings correspond with the biblical accounts of Jesus's crucifixion. Additionally, the presence of creatinine and high levels of urea in the blood suggests severe trauma and possible renal failure, consistent with the physical suffering described in the Gospels.<a href="https://www.norwichdiocese.org/Stay-Informed/All-Diocesan-Articles/ID/20159/New-Study-Bloodstains-on-Shroud-of-Turin-Consistent-with-Torture-of-Christ" target="_blank">New Study: Bloodstains on Shroud of Turin Consistent with Torture of Christ > Diocese of Norwich</a>Also, it has always been a mystery as to how the image was actually formed on the cloth, so using advanced imaging techniques, including multispectral and hyperspectral imaging, are being utilized to study the shroud's image formation. Some researchers propose that the image could have been formed by a burst of ultraviolet light, a phenomenon not yet reproducible with current technology and certainly not possible to produce 2000 years ago.</blockquote>

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