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<blockquote data-quote="Fishalt" data-source="post: 84815" data-attributes="member: 228"><p>The concept of Samsara/Dhukka I subscribe to is Buddhist, not Hindu. Mahayana Buddhism, that is. Reincarnation in this system does not work the way you think it does, nor does karma, and neither require any belief in the supernatural. Suffice to say, it is possible to die and be born many times in a lifetime. The fundamental difference I suppose is that Christianity is predicated on the idea of permanence, and this is antithetical to Buddhist teaching--both Mahayana and Theravada. It is the concept of permanence and linearity--that things have beginnings and endings, that a causes attachment underwritten by the fear of death and loss, and it is this that causes suffering. One who cannot see the rising and falling of things,who cannot see past the illusion of time, who is mired in attachment and embroiled in dreams of the self, of being and not being, will never know wisdom. Nor peace. Those priests you mention likely did not possess wisdom. They may have been learned, they may have known all there is to know about Christian theology. But unless they understood that we must all come to an end here, and that nowhere, ever, has there been known a place where death did not overcome the mortal, then they learned the wrong lessons. </p><p></p><p>The natural world is objective reality. Natural processes are reality. What you conceive of is an imposition of a human value system upon reality. It is an artifice.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fishalt, post: 84815, member: 228"] The concept of Samsara/Dhukka I subscribe to is Buddhist, not Hindu. Mahayana Buddhism, that is. Reincarnation in this system does not work the way you think it does, nor does karma, and neither require any belief in the supernatural. Suffice to say, it is possible to die and be born many times in a lifetime. The fundamental difference I suppose is that Christianity is predicated on the idea of permanence, and this is antithetical to Buddhist teaching--both Mahayana and Theravada. It is the concept of permanence and linearity--that things have beginnings and endings, that a causes attachment underwritten by the fear of death and loss, and it is this that causes suffering. One who cannot see the rising and falling of things,who cannot see past the illusion of time, who is mired in attachment and embroiled in dreams of the self, of being and not being, will never know wisdom. Nor peace. Those priests you mention likely did not possess wisdom. They may have been learned, they may have known all there is to know about Christian theology. But unless they understood that we must all come to an end here, and that nowhere, ever, has there been known a place where death did not overcome the mortal, then they learned the wrong lessons. The natural world is objective reality. Natural processes are reality. What you conceive of is an imposition of a human value system upon reality. It is an artifice. [/QUOTE]
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