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Message: <blockquote data-quote="scolairebocht" data-source="post: 142428" data-attributes="member: 8">But do you mind me asking, what is it you are bringing to the table as a reason for saying it is Ok?The Catholic Church is bringing to this 2,000 years of a Magisterium, with philosophers theologians etc etc determining that the marital act must be open to human life. That ancient wisdom is encapsulated into the Papal encyclical Humanae Vitae, which was endorsed by none other than Padre Pio, whose genuine mystical gifts have been endorsed by thousands, many of them Irish people.Again, where on the otherhand does your philosophy derive exactly? So much of modern liberal philosophy seems to derive from think tanks or authors that we find out a long time later were funded by the CIA or whomever.</blockquote>

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